Discussion: Most controversial moment in Motocross?

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Not my photochop job, but this one was recent.




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oldblood wrote:
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
Casting wrote:
Huh? I'm missing something
oldblood wrote:
(Supercross).
Now that I see the clip I'm fine with missing that.

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Factory bike claiming
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Casting wrote:
Huh? I'm missing something
oldblood wrote:
(Supercross).
Casting wrote:
Now that I see the clip I'm fine with missing that.

Lighten up man.
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PRM31 wrote:
Factory bike claiming
Alessi?
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The one that came to mind was the attempt at Marty Smith’s factory 125 Elsinore. Probably cost him a title when Honda refused to race factory bikes afterwards.
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Pretty controversial one here IMO. After watching where this starts you can go back to the 24:24 mark you can see the move that pissed off Kiedrowski enough to do ghost his bike into Larocco.

https://youtu.be/vRIS69lTX1Y?start=1512
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PRM31 wrote:
Factory bike claiming
oldblood wrote:
Alessi?
I would love to have my son on that CR80 (85?). Where is it I wonder, and is it for sale?
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oldblood wrote:
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
-MAVERICK- wrote:
"As long as you keep holding the mic I'll just keep talking" LMAO
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Moosecan letting golden boy by at East Rutherford definitely ranks up there
Salty much? Even if Marvin wouldn’t have done that, Dungey would have won the title.
People calling out Musquin for pulling over like to overlook Cooper pulling over for Martin in the outdoors and lying about it after the race.
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A few others to consider..... not for the top but possibly for the top 10 or 20.....in no particular order.

1. JS7 using a Pirelli front tire if memory serves me correct
with Dunlop tire stickers on them

2. JS7 supposedly flying in a nurse to administer IVs
between motos on the DL

3. The Competition Park track, MXdesNations race getting
pulled & Tribal strongarm tactics

4. JS7 and Joe Gibbs agreeing to go their separate ways
with most of the season left to go

5. I believe it was Grant Langston cutting the track at Glen
Helen to get back at Alessi.

6. Ron Lechiene getting arrested in Japan and getting Mr.
Honda to pull some strings

7. Tony Alessi alluding to rampant PED use and other
pharmaceutical abuse in the pits.

8. Hannah selection for the Unadilla MX des Nations team
instead of ??

9. JS7 playing Law Enforcement games with some lights.

10. Travis's refusal to shelve his freestyle antics until his
time under Robert Decoster or racing as a whole was
done.
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5/31/2019 11:53pm
oldblood wrote:
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
When Eli decided to go full 70's streaker mode, and le Marve' talked about it on the podium interview (video ?).
-MAVERICK- wrote:
That’s hilarious!!!! 😂

I feel bad but i actually fast forward his part of the press conferences. Fast forward dates me...drag forward?
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MX Sports being a drug ring, dude...duh!
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Let Brock bye sign at the top. —Also the year (early 80’s?) when top riders were purposely getting passed (mostly at the top of the peristyle where fans couldn’t see) at the LA supercross, during qualifiers to get a better gate pick, is up there as well!
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DoctorJD wrote:
Jon Roeder (sp?)
Claimed Marty Tripes factory Honda. 78' I think? But wasn't there one before that?
Yes the claiming of Tripes Honda showed the whole world that Honda controlled the sport of US motocross. The AMA was (and still is) just their handmaiden.
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I think Let Brock Bye gets brought up excessively because of the Jody Weisel photo, but there are so many similar instances in moto history.

Good topic for discussion.

I love Guy Cooper and he had the most points (by ONE) at the end of the '90 125 series....but Larry Ward and Mike Larocco pulled over and gave it to him. If the Suzuki guys raced straight up Mike Kiedrowski would have another title.

If Honda doesn't send Jeff Stanton to Japan for the last 250 GP in '91 Mike Healey and KTM would have won the 250 World Championship. Stanton beating Healey cost Mike 6 points and he loses the title by 4.

In '88 Davey Strijbos and his Cagiva were whooping up on Jean Michel Bayle and had just won 5 motos in a row. Series heads to France and Strijbos is knocked down by mid pack French Honda rider Patrick Perrier. Then as he's coming through the pack he is blocked by JMB's brother Christian. It's the only moto Strijbos doesn't score points and he loses the championship to Bayle by 3 points.

In the 1980 125 World Championship Michele Rinaldi and his obscure TGM lose the title to Suzuki's Harry Everts by 5 points. Everts wins the Austrian GP.....his works Suzuki registers under the weight limit...and the FIM issues no penalty.

All great fodder for us bench racing geeks...but to me the most controversial thing in moto history is the 250F in 2001. There should have been a trial period and then evaluation to determine the right size 4 stroke for the 125 class. RacerX did a great article then with the top factory 125 riders at the time and everyone knew it was to be the death of the "125" Nationals.
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Anyone remember the "MX Madam"?
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6/1/2019 9:12am Edited Date/Time 6/1/2019 9:12am
The Mike Goodwin / Mickey Thompson murder deal was pretty controversial.
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A few others to consider..... not for the top but possibly for the top 10 or 20.....in no particular order. 1. JS7 using a Pirelli front...
A few others to consider..... not for the top but possibly for the top 10 or 20.....in no particular order.

1. JS7 using a Pirelli front tire if memory serves me correct
with Dunlop tire stickers on them

2. JS7 supposedly flying in a nurse to administer IVs
between motos on the DL

3. The Competition Park track, MXdesNations race getting
pulled & Tribal strongarm tactics

4. JS7 and Joe Gibbs agreeing to go their separate ways
with most of the season left to go

5. I believe it was Grant Langston cutting the track at Glen
Helen to get back at Alessi.

6. Ron Lechiene getting arrested in Japan and getting Mr.
Honda to pull some strings

7. Tony Alessi alluding to rampant PED use and other
pharmaceutical abuse in the pits.

8. Hannah selection for the Unadilla MX des Nations team
instead of ??

9. JS7 playing Law Enforcement games with some lights.

10. Travis's refusal to shelve his freestyle antics until his
time under Robert Decoster or racing as a whole was
done.
For the win!
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6/1/2019 9:27am Edited Date/Time 6/1/2019 9:37am
That was Chatfields buddy from England. ATTACK MX PROMOTIONS.
February 15, 2005

Attack MX will DQ winner and give grand prize to runner-up
By Davey Coombs

Racer X broke the story yesterday that David Snow, the winner of the
$40,000 Ford F-350 pickup truck in the first-ever Attack MX race in
Arizona, was actually Alex Snow, a pro-caliber rider from Great
Britain who entered the 125cc Novice class for this high-profile race.
A positive ID was made of Alex Snow by several readers in England when
a photo of the Attack MX winner by Bobby Myers was posted on our
website.

Now, after following up with the information and speaking with several
parties—including the Snow family back in England and their hosts, the
Chatfields in Texas—Attack MX has asked that the truck be returned
immediately so that it can be awarded to the rightful winner, event
runner-up Nick Bussy of California. Short reiterated his company’s
pledge to be diligent in checking the backgrounds and qualifications
of all competitors at future Attack MX races. Attack MX also hopes the
truck is returned in brand-new condition in time to present to Bussy
at their next race, which is set for February 25-27 at Verde Valley
MotoPlex in Arizona. (For more information on that event, visit
www.attackmx.com.)

“Attack MX had bought a trailer to haul the truck from the dealership
to the event so that it would be brand-new, and they want it just like
that when we get it back to give to Nick Bussy,” said Short.

As for Snow, his father, David, expressed deep regret over the whole
situation when contacted at home in England. “I think it’s a bit of
naiveté on Alex’s part, and maybe as well as the others with him, but
boys will be boys, and we’re just really sad that it all happened like
this,” said Mr. Snow. “He’s a good boy, and he just wants to win. He
wanted to ride in America, and he had a deal to ride this one race.
I’m not sure he knew what he had gotten into, and we just want to set
the record straight.”

Mr. Snow also explained that the U.S. definition of what makes a rider
a “pro” is much different than what it is there. “We buy his bikes and
he gets no wages, and when he races for a little bit of prize money,
that’s really all he gets,” explained Mr. Snow. But he also explained
that Alex Snow is not a novice by any definition. “We really learned a
lesson, and we want to come back and do some more riding, maybe in the
fall. Only this time, we will make sure we have all of our facts
correct before we even leave the UK.

“We hadn’t done our homework, and we couldn’t believe it when Alex
texted us Sunday night at one in the morning and said, ‘Dad, I won a
pickup.’ We couldn’t believe it.” Mr. Snow stressed that Alex never
meant to keep the truck, that he was to give it to the people who got
him over to the U.S. in the first place. Now he fully expects the
truck to be handed to the rightful owner as soon as possible. “I
wouldn’t want Alex to have something that he did not deserve,” he
said. “We’re a little bit sad about it all, and the lad who finished
second deserves this prize.”

As for why Alex rode under the name David Snow, the father explained
that his son has a deal to race Suzukis in England this season and
that he did not want his sponsor to know he was riding a different
brand. Ironically, he later found out that it was not a problem to
ride a different brand outside the UK.
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seventeen wrote:
Here is my list... Let Broc bye... Wardy riding backwards...AMA...not enforcing the rulebook...Beats Broc for SX championship by 2 points... Ricky whining like a bitch...gets points...
Here is my list...
Let Broc bye...
Wardy riding backwards...AMA...not enforcing the rulebook...Beats Broc for SX championship by 2 points...
Ricky whining like a bitch...gets points back...wins SX championship...
Stewart testing positive...broke the internet...
Somehow RC never getting dinged for PED's...
YouthStream changing rules to allow Girlings to stay in MX2...wins Championship...
Anything Steve Whitelock...
I could go on...
Sully wrote:
I'm sure you could go on, but since you called Ricky a bitch and Herlings "Girlings," you should probably quit before you make yourself sound even...
I'm sure you could go on, but since you called Ricky a bitch and Herlings "Girlings," you should probably quit before you make yourself sound even dumber.
Keeping in mind "dumber" is not a word I am not quite sure what to make of you...or your accesment...given your trigger points I will loan you a lever to pry yourself off of Ricky and Jeffery's balls...
They are simply pro athletes...not ones to look up to neccesarily; It is laughable that you are offended by me poking fun at your heros...
I will now excersice my constitutional right to tell you to go "suck a fat one"
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PRM31 wrote:
The one that came to mind was the attempt at Marty Smith’s factory 125 Elsinore. Probably cost him a title when Honda refused to race factory...
The one that came to mind was the attempt at Marty Smith’s factory 125 Elsinore. Probably cost him a title when Honda refused to race factory bikes afterwards.
Marty tripes werks 250
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I think you guys are all forgetting when This happened 🤔
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Poto and Monster...The impunity of the Monster riders in the races sponsored by them is extensive and in them poto is the main protagonist.
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6/1/2019 2:16pm
Anyone who actually believed the hype.

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