Best VP fuel for two stroke?

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soggy 5/21/2019 8:39pm
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soggy wrote:
i think that fuel is oxygenated so you may need to rejet or you will be running quite lean
Sr_Vet_Rider wrote:
Yup You will not get your moneys worth unless you rejet with that fuel. We use that at altitude (Mammoth), to avoid re-jetting. You’ll need to...
Yup
You will not get your moneys worth unless you rejet with that fuel.
We use that at altitude (Mammoth), to avoid re-jetting. You’ll need to jet your bike richer to get the most out of it.
moto0852 wrote:
Yeah, I'm interested to see how jetting changes. I'm dropping from 4600 ft. to 1600 ft. for the race and they still recommended I go up...
Yeah, I'm interested to see how jetting changes. I'm dropping from 4600 ft. to 1600 ft. for the race and they still recommended I go up 10 on the Main Jet.
if your dropping that much in elevation it's only going to magnify the need for richer jetting.
Kleinmotorsports 5/21/2019 9:34pm
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T4 with Motul 800 50:1 “but jet up” do to the increased O2 content same goes for MRXO2. Or I am just out of my mind lol.
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jeffro503 5/21/2019 10:51pm
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zehn wrote:
What 2T oil are you running? Please don’t say Castor 927
God you are one stupid fuck. Laughing
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jeffro503 5/21/2019 11:02pm
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zehn wrote:
What 2T oil are you running? Please don’t say Castor 927
This is what a well tuned RM 250 at 45hrs on 927 , mixed with VP110 and non ethanol @36:1 looks like. From the sounds of it , you should stay away from 2 strokes since you aren't smart enough to jet one correctly.


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zac_k3 5/22/2019 7:18am
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What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for my 125 and it was $82, i think i could have gotten the c12 for around $65 but he said if it’s not a race engine it would destroy it. Is that true?
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Bramlett321 5/22/2019 7:42am
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mattyhamz2 wrote:
C12
C12 ^^^^ this stuff is amazing.

All I ran in my later 2 stroke years though was the LL100 av gas.
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dust1905 5/23/2019 6:55am
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Ran T2 in my 300xc and it seems to run great.
mattyhamz2 5/23/2019 7:57am
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zac_k3 wrote:
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for...
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for my 125 and it was $82, i think i could have gotten the c12 for around $65 but he said if it’s not a race engine it would destroy it. Is that true?
Wtf? We've been running C12 in our stock motors for years. Never had an issue. Burns great, no detonation and the bikes run badass!
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77Moto 5/23/2019 8:14am
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zac_k3 wrote:
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for...
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for my 125 and it was $82, i think i could have gotten the c12 for around $65 but he said if it’s not a race engine it would destroy it. Is that true?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Wtf? We've been running C12 in our stock motors for years. Never had an issue. Burns great, no detonation and the bikes run badass!
But it probably actually runs better on pump gas with maybe a bit added for protection.
Pure C12 burns slow and cold. Thats why its good for built engines, or old vintage built air cooled two strokes that run hot in the hot weather, but it wont hurt anything. Not sure why they told the other guy that.

Pure C12 in some stock bikes actually runs sluggish.



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mattyhamz2 5/23/2019 8:20am
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zac_k3 wrote:
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for...
What’s the point in buying Vp if you’re just gonna mix it with pump gas? Get a higher octane? I bought a can of T2 for my 125 and it was $82, i think i could have gotten the c12 for around $65 but he said if it’s not a race engine it would destroy it. Is that true?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Wtf? We've been running C12 in our stock motors for years. Never had an issue. Burns great, no detonation and the bikes run badass!
77Moto wrote:
But it probably actually runs better on pump gas with maybe a bit added for protection. Pure C12 burns slow and cold. Thats why its good...
But it probably actually runs better on pump gas with maybe a bit added for protection.
Pure C12 burns slow and cold. Thats why its good for built engines, or old vintage built air cooled two strokes that run hot in the hot weather, but it wont hurt anything. Not sure why they told the other guy that.

Pure C12 in some stock bikes actually runs sluggish.



Our 05 KX250 and my 05 YZ250 run like crap on our California pump gas. Detonation like crazy. I'm sure we could mix it 50/50 with pump and it would be fine, but our pump gas is the worst shit ever made lol
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monti248 5/23/2019 8:27am
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JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:
Anyone cut vp110
With pump?
If I take my 125 play riding or if I bring it to go camping/trail riding I’ll cut in 110/92 at 40:1. Otherwise when I’m riding moto is 110 at 40:1.

In my opinion you only need to run race gas when your building heat. So unless your have some porting done, maybe some basic motor mods, or a different ignition then that’s when I’d start spending the money on it.
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MaxPower 5/31/2020 11:23am
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zehn wrote:
What 2T oil are you running? Please don’t say Castor 927
jeffro503 wrote:
This is what a well tuned RM 250 at 45hrs on 927 , mixed with VP110 and non ethanol @36:1 looks like. From the sounds of...
This is what a well tuned RM 250 at 45hrs on 927 , mixed with VP110 and non ethanol @36:1 looks like. From the sounds of it , you should stay away from 2 strokes since you aren't smart enough to jet one correctly.


Thats crazy that's so clean at 45 hours with 927. After 8 or 9 hours my KX125 had a ton of carbon build up. It protected from wear just fine, but the inside of myou engine was so dirty
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SoCalMX70 5/31/2020 11:44am
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Huh, interesting resurrection... Since my post last year I've actually switched to C12 (50/50 pump) and 927, still at 32:1. Bike runs flawless. No abnormal carbon build up when I did my top end in January. Only thing I noticed was a slight golden glaze on the cylinder head. If you're jetted properly and ride hard, 927 is great!
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Rickyisms 5/31/2020 2:01pm
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Sunoco 110 at 32:1 in a mod KTM 125, 150 hours on the crank with no ill effects. Top end every 15-20 hours.
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Felix71 wrote:
I use VP T2 in my 2-Strokes but it comes pre mixed at 40:1 and I don't think that will work for your KTM.
77Moto wrote:
Why? Does the KTM not like the taste of it or something? Does the engine know what it is until it says "Man, this lube is...
Why? Does the KTM not like the taste of it or something?

Does the engine know what it is until it says
"Man, this lube is too good, Can't feel a damn thing. I'm hitting 15,000 Pumps per minute, and still not hitting that rev limitier!", or
"Man, this thing is running dry. I'm getting hot, sticky, and chafed down here in this hole. She's steaming, and it sure doesn't smell like Klotz!"



Felix71 wrote:
No, Dude. KTM recommends 60:1, not 40:1. I thought everyone knew that.
You can cut T2 oil ratios down with VPR (that's the base fuel for T2).

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Ozy 5/31/2020 8:50pm
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
I run C12/91 mixed 5050 with 50:1 oil in my KTM 125. You should run the bike before your race on the new gas and oil...
I run C12/91 mixed 5050 with 50:1 oil in my KTM 125.

You should run the bike before your race on the new gas and oil mix to confirm it runs well. Nothing worse then showing up on race day and the bike running wrong.
I would 2nd this mixing 50:50 pump gas with C12.

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