Stew vs Herlings

Moto man
Profile picture for user Moto man
Posts
94
Joined
1/26/2019
Location
Washougal, WA, USA
Moto man 3/4/2019 7:13am
3/4/2019 7:13am
RichardLoots wrote:
its clear you dont know what youre talking about . Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did...
its clear you dont know what youre talking about .


Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did at Charlotte ,
yeah he did but it was Herlings championship race after missing out last 2 years dont think he gave a f.ck about that second race he lost to Webb and Forkner ... and now you are going to call that a excuse ,
i know ...but its the same excuse that was used when herlngs beat Tomac at IronMan when everybody agreed Tomac was in championship mode ... or does it only work one way ?? Laughing

so settle down troll
All you pole smokers resort back to the same ole same ole “we beat Tomac”. Page me when Herlings can beat Webb and Baggett outdoors.
1
7
RG1
Profile picture for user RG1
Posts
4661
Joined
7/12/2015
Location
GB
RG1 3/4/2019 7:25am
3/4/2019 7:25am
RichardLoots wrote:
its clear you dont know what youre talking about . Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did...
its clear you dont know what youre talking about .


Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did at Charlotte ,
yeah he did but it was Herlings championship race after missing out last 2 years dont think he gave a f.ck about that second race he lost to Webb and Forkner ... and now you are going to call that a excuse ,
i know ...but its the same excuse that was used when herlngs beat Tomac at IronMan when everybody agreed Tomac was in championship mode ... or does it only work one way ?? Laughing

so settle down troll
Moto man wrote:
All you pole smokers resort back to the same ole same ole “we beat Tomac”. Page me when Herlings can beat Webb and Baggett outdoors.
Paging Moto Man



6
1
RG1
Profile picture for user RG1
Posts
4661
Joined
7/12/2015
Location
GB
RG1 3/4/2019 7:28am
3/4/2019 7:28am

3
1
Bonanza69
Profile picture for user Bonanza69
Posts
1085
Joined
4/4/2016
Location
LU
Bonanza69 3/4/2019 7:28am
3/4/2019 7:28am
Moto man wrote:
All you pole smokers resort back to the same ole same ole “we beat Tomac”. Page me when Herlings can beat Webb and Baggett outdoors.
It‘s not „can“ but „when“.Wink Smile
1

The Shop

See All »
blockhead17
Profile picture for user blockhead17
Posts
2851
Joined
6/13/2018
Location
Tokyo, JP
blockhead17 3/4/2019 7:36am
3/4/2019 7:36am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat...
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat Stewart outdoors. So the real question is could he beat RC . Wink
mxb2 wrote:
X2. Rc. Would handle both of them. Throw Rv in the mix finishing second.
Question was when stew was in his prime and when he was on.. the fact is when he was on he even left the goat behind (not always) but when James had-it........ Man!
1
1
hellion
Profile picture for user hellion
Posts
1089
Joined
12/19/2009
Location
Westfield, MA, USA
hellion 3/4/2019 7:54am
3/4/2019 7:54am
Listen to Ryno on the whiskey throttle show. One week he felt like he and Langston and Brownie were riding a 125 as fast as was humanly possible. A week later Stew returns from injury and is so far gone off the front that they can’t even think of competing with him. Fast guys from every era will come and go. Pure speed nobody so far has had anything to compare. Titles, consistency, race craft, yes others have. Speed, Stew stands alone.
7
MotoMalyDad
Profile picture for user MotoMalyDad
Posts
701
Joined
4/19/2012
Location
Santa Maria, CA, USA
MotoMalyDad 3/4/2019 7:56am
3/4/2019 7:56am
Man, these threads are great except there is no clear cut winner. Just like other sports, different eras , technology changes along with R and D . The comparison is only when it's apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Unless JS and JH are about the same age, with the same era bike and running the same tracks for the same amount of times , then it is a guessing game. But it is fun..
5
blockhead17
Profile picture for user blockhead17
Posts
2851
Joined
6/13/2018
Location
Tokyo, JP
blockhead17 3/4/2019 8:11am
3/4/2019 8:11am
MotoMalyDad wrote:
Man, these threads are great except there is no clear cut winner. Just like other sports, different eras , technology changes along with R and D...
Man, these threads are great except there is no clear cut winner. Just like other sports, different eras , technology changes along with R and D . The comparison is only when it's apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Unless JS and JH are about the same age, with the same era bike and running the same tracks for the same amount of times , then it is a guessing game. But it is fun..
Also James didn’t have a Litpro, and a laptop with traction/throttle data to tell him how to go faster.. jus sayin
1
3
mxb2
Profile picture for user mxb2
Posts
22437
Joined
6/15/2010
Location
Bowie, MD, USA
mxb2 3/4/2019 8:11am
3/4/2019 8:11am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat...
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat Stewart outdoors. So the real question is could he beat RC . Wink
mxb2 wrote:
X2. Rc. Would handle both of them. Throw Rv in the mix finishing second.
blockhead17 wrote:
Question was when stew was in his prime and when he was on.. the fact is when he was on he even left the goat behind...
Question was when stew was in his prime and when he was on.. the fact is when he was on he even left the goat behind (not always) but when James had-it........ Man!
Like i said in their prime. Rc and rv have them all covered and proved it by beating the best.
5
kaidoddragon 3/4/2019 8:13am
3/4/2019 8:13am
I never saw Stewart neither Carmichael with my own eyes so it is hard to judge for me. I think you need to see them riding from the track side to see how fast they can go. That being said, I have seen Villopoto in his prime, Dungey, Roczen and a bunch of the "most talented ever", but none of them gave me the same impression as Herlings. Speedwise he was mind blowing last year, really.
1
1
Nuffsaid
Profile picture for user Nuffsaid
Posts
573
Joined
3/24/2018
Location
Bakersfield, CA, USA
Nuffsaid 3/4/2019 8:17am
3/4/2019 8:17am
Ghost of the past get faster every season
7
RichardLoots 3/4/2019 9:07am
3/4/2019 9:07am Edited Date/Time 3/4/2019 9:16am
Moto man wrote:
All you pole smokers resort back to the same ole same ole “we beat Tomac”. Page me when Herlings can beat Webb and Baggett outdoors.
he did multiple times ... selective memory rules again Laughing Laughing your posting history speaks for itself
or did you start following MX this year ?
4
andyman
Profile picture for user andyman
Posts
354
Joined
6/8/2013
Location
FI
andyman 3/4/2019 9:24am
3/4/2019 9:24am
In five race series, Herlings would get one, Stew would get one, and Ricky would get three.
Ricky would be right there in every race. And this would need Herlings from 2018. Herlings from any other year would not get anything but blowjobs from Richardloots.
3
4
Track and Trail 3/4/2019 9:25am
3/4/2019 9:25am
Stew wins all the pretend races without question!
2
kaidoddragon 3/4/2019 12:02pm
3/4/2019 12:02pm
If the track is sandy Herlings gets everyone though.
1
MotoMalyDad
Profile picture for user MotoMalyDad
Posts
701
Joined
4/19/2012
Location
Santa Maria, CA, USA
MotoMalyDad 3/4/2019 12:44pm
3/4/2019 12:44pm
MotoMalyDad wrote:
Man, these threads are great except there is no clear cut winner. Just like other sports, different eras , technology changes along with R and D...
Man, these threads are great except there is no clear cut winner. Just like other sports, different eras , technology changes along with R and D . The comparison is only when it's apples to apples and oranges to oranges. Unless JS and JH are about the same age, with the same era bike and running the same tracks for the same amount of times , then it is a guessing game. But it is fun..
blockhead17 wrote:
Also James didn’t have a Litpro, and a laptop with traction/throttle data to tell him how to go faster.. jus sayin
So what track data do you have ? Same layout of track, Same ambient temperature and humidity. A track can change dramatically from when XYZ ran it at a 2.03 pace . So unless 2 riders have pretty much equal and against the same other riders then it is all fun.
Nuffsaid
Profile picture for user Nuffsaid
Posts
573
Joined
3/24/2018
Location
Bakersfield, CA, USA
Nuffsaid 3/4/2019 12:46pm
3/4/2019 12:46pm
Track and Trail wrote:
Stew wins all the pretend races without question!
Yep
ruy
Profile picture for user ruy
Posts
4091
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
España, ES
ruy 3/4/2019 1:48pm
3/4/2019 1:48pm

1
1

Pit Row

See All »
rp031x
Profile picture for user rp031x
Posts
112
Joined
2/4/2019
Location
Raleigh, NC, USA
rp031x 3/4/2019 5:15pm
3/4/2019 5:15pm
motomike137 wrote:
It's always fun to daydream about this stuff. I've only seen Herlings race in person at the MXoN last fall but what I've seen on TV...
It's always fun to daydream about this stuff. I've only seen Herlings race in person at the MXoN last fall but what I've seen on TV leaves me astonished. That said he's not perfect and has been beaten off and on by a couple of our guys. I will say that I don't think anybody could go any faster than Stewart and RC were going in 2006-2007.
This.
rp031x
Profile picture for user rp031x
Posts
112
Joined
2/4/2019
Location
Raleigh, NC, USA
rp031x 3/4/2019 5:24pm
3/4/2019 5:24pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat...
Could he beat Everts ? Everts beat Stew in his prime and RC had the upper hand with Everts in most meetings and RC regularly beat Stewart outdoors. So the real question is could he beat RC . Wink
No. He would not beat RC outdoors. No one would.
4
1
bama205
Profile picture for user bama205
Posts
1518
Joined
10/7/2010
Location
Williamson County, TN, USA
bama205 3/4/2019 5:49pm
3/4/2019 5:49pm
I remember RC saying something like “it is not possible to go faster than James on a bike”


Then beats him next Moto by 6 seconds
2
1
bama205
Profile picture for user bama205
Posts
1518
Joined
10/7/2010
Location
Williamson County, TN, USA
bama205 3/4/2019 5:51pm
3/4/2019 5:51pm
Moto man wrote:
Herlings got caught and beat...badly by Webb. Settle down.
RichardLoots wrote:
its clear you dont know what youre talking about . Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did...
its clear you dont know what youre talking about .


Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did at Charlotte ,
yeah he did but it was Herlings championship race after missing out last 2 years dont think he gave a f.ck about that second race he lost to Webb and Forkner ... and now you are going to call that a excuse ,
i know ...but its the same excuse that was used when herlngs beat Tomac at IronMan when everybody agreed Tomac was in championship mode ... or does it only work one way ?? Laughing

so settle down troll
Hey pea brain.

If you can use the championship excuse then we can use the MEC excuse.

Piss off moran
1
FARANG
Profile picture for user FARANG
Posts
861
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
USA
FARANG 3/4/2019 6:00pm
3/4/2019 6:00pm
Herlings would unquestionably beat Stewart over a whole season outdoors, same as RC did. He'd also beat him in a one off MXDN race, as Everts did.

People forget that Stewart won only one outdoor title on big bikes despite being active in that class from 2005 to 2013. The only premier outdoor title he won was when he cruised every race unchallenged and won 24-0 against the weakest 450 field in living memory.

Herlings would pressure Stewart just as the other top MX riders did, and we all know what happens when someone matched Stewart's pace for 3-4 laps.
2
3
hyler199
Profile picture for user hyler199
Posts
621
Joined
4/23/2017
Location
CA
hyler199 3/4/2019 6:58pm
3/4/2019 6:58pm Edited Date/Time 3/4/2019 7:00pm
I felt Stew left me saying "jesus fu k"
And Herlings is more of a "dam that was good"

Stew was just a bit more vulgar with his speed Haha. Dont forget he has great technique he ain't just a pin it dude
1
Mr. G
Profile picture for user Mr. G
Posts
4225
Joined
12/23/2009
Location
Riverside, CA, USA
Mr. G 3/4/2019 7:29pm
3/4/2019 7:29pm
RichardLoots 3/5/2019 3:20am
3/5/2019 3:20am Edited Date/Time 3/5/2019 4:14am
Moto man wrote:
Herlings got caught and beat...badly by Webb. Settle down.
RichardLoots wrote:
its clear you dont know what youre talking about . Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did...
its clear you dont know what youre talking about .


Webb never beat Herlings at MXON and i know you are going to say he did at Charlotte ,
yeah he did but it was Herlings championship race after missing out last 2 years dont think he gave a f.ck about that second race he lost to Webb and Forkner ... and now you are going to call that a excuse ,
i know ...but its the same excuse that was used when herlngs beat Tomac at IronMan when everybody agreed Tomac was in championship mode ... or does it only work one way ?? Laughing

so settle down troll
bama205 wrote:
Hey pea brain.

If you can use the championship excuse then we can use the MEC excuse.

Piss off moran
Laughing Laughing are you and Moto Man related ?? and what MEC excuse ??

Vitards rule , your choice of words speak for itself
1
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
21129
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney, AU
Crush 3/5/2019 5:21am
3/5/2019 5:21am Edited Date/Time 3/5/2019 5:25am
FARANG wrote:
Herlings would unquestionably beat Stewart over a whole season outdoors, same as RC did. He'd also beat him in a one off MXDN race, as Everts...
Herlings would unquestionably beat Stewart over a whole season outdoors, same as RC did. He'd also beat him in a one off MXDN race, as Everts did.

People forget that Stewart won only one outdoor title on big bikes despite being active in that class from 2005 to 2013. The only premier outdoor title he won was when he cruised every race unchallenged and won 24-0 against the weakest 450 field in living memory.

Herlings would pressure Stewart just as the other top MX riders did, and we all know what happens when someone matched Stewart's pace for 3-4 laps.
Some context tho... not on an even bike the first year and James didn’t race outdoors 09, 10, or 11. He won races after that but I’d argue he was well in to his head injury stages, consistency was well and truly gone.

.... But he gave RC fits a lot whenever RC was at his peak. Prime James was a beast.
Park Boys
Profile picture for user Park Boys
Posts
3858
Joined
3/23/2012
Location
USA
Park Boys 3/5/2019 6:13am
3/5/2019 6:13am Edited Date/Time 3/5/2019 6:18am
FARANG wrote:
Herlings would unquestionably beat Stewart over a whole season outdoors, same as RC did. He'd also beat him in a one off MXDN race, as Everts...
Herlings would unquestionably beat Stewart over a whole season outdoors, same as RC did. He'd also beat him in a one off MXDN race, as Everts did.

People forget that Stewart won only one outdoor title on big bikes despite being active in that class from 2005 to 2013. The only premier outdoor title he won was when he cruised every race unchallenged and won 24-0 against the weakest 450 field in living memory.

Herlings would pressure Stewart just as the other top MX riders did, and we all know what happens when someone matched Stewart's pace for 3-4 laps.
Your right Stew got by Everts where Everts had every advantage. I’ve watched Mad Max crash pick his bike up and still beat Herlings at the MxDN and we just watched Coldenhoff beat Herlings at the MxDN. Stew lost to a 10 x champion in the ulimtate last ride of his career. Herlings lost to guys who have combined for one 450 GP win. So how exactly does Stew losing to Everts after a violent crash filled year mean that Herlings would beat him? Herlings gets beat at the MxDN every single year by riders who are not even close to Everts caliber, sans AC in 2012.
1
2
2WheelsForTheMasses 3/5/2019 6:18am
3/5/2019 6:18am
Nobody would have touched Js7 at his peak.

He was one of the few guys that could change his speed at any given time when needed.
1
1
mxb2
Profile picture for user mxb2
Posts
22437
Joined
6/15/2010
Location
Bowie, MD, USA
mxb2 3/5/2019 7:35am
3/5/2019 7:35am
2WheelsForTheMasses wrote:
Nobody would have touched Js7 at his peak.

He was one of the few guys that could change his speed at any given time when needed.
So he lost titles on purpose ? Lol. Thats a new oneGrinning Grinning Grinning
3

Post a reply to: Stew vs Herlings