Jeffrey Herlings to race American MX series?

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It would be awesome if he did. It’s not if he would win over here, it’s by how much.
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Fuck, just ask him as he's on here!

Jiffy give us another sign on social media... Or post under your alias...
I'm pretty sure he's RUY
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150ripper wrote:
He's under contract to race the MXGPs, it ain't up to him.
Helda wrote:
Lol, a rider like JH can do what he wants, remember RV was also contracted to race the AMA SX/MX when he went to the GP's
davis224 wrote:
He wanted to retire, Monster/Kawi had him under contract to race. They found a middle ground in the GPs.
Regardless he couldn't retire he was under contract to race the AMA's just like Jeff is under contract to race MXGP...
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His name is still on the entry list !
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Bidirella wrote:
1st he is still injured and nobody knows the time frame or the story of the injury because KTM are telling 2 different story's. 2nd if...
1st he is still injured and nobody knows the time frame or the story of the injury because KTM are telling 2 different story's.

2nd if he is ready to go, he needs to have the goodwill from KTM, because his MXGP contract and possible a 3rd bike under the tent.

I dont see it happening until Musquin skips outdoors to get his knee fixed....
I agree. As much as I'd LOVE this, I don't see it happening. Possibly ever. The only thing going for the possibility is the hype, KTM might cave. But definitely not with Webb AND Marv under the tent.
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KTM won't run a three bike 450 team with three massive names. Especially considering how much support they're offering the Rocky Mountain team. Herlings isn't just...
KTM won't run a three bike 450 team with three massive names. Especially considering how much support they're offering the Rocky Mountain team.

Herlings isn't just going for the 2019 MXGP title. He's trying to break Evert's all time win record. Even if he comes back 4 round in, or even 5 rounds in, he can rack up a bunch of wins and add them to his tally.

Herlings is a beast. Even if his foot is weak and he's been off the bike for a while, he can come back for round 2 and get a top ten and salvage some points. He rode with a broken femur in Mexico, and won last year with a fresh plate in his collar bone.

Herlings is NOT going to race the AMA Nationals this year.
twotwosix wrote:
You have to remember that Herlings is not getting paid by American KTM. It's just a matter of logistics, which they can certainly handle. KTM has...
You have to remember that Herlings is not getting paid by American KTM. It's just a matter of logistics, which they can certainly handle. KTM has run 3 bike teams in the past.


"Herlings is NOT going to race the AMA Nationals this year."

Seems very presumptuous.
Gandorlf wrote:
Vice MX did an interview with the team manager at Hawkstone this year and basically they said exactly this. He's not racing in the US this...
Vice MX did an interview with the team manager at Hawkstone this year and basically they said exactly this. He's not racing in the US this year, he's under contract to race the GP's and that's where they want him. Speculate all you want on here but they essentially put the nail in the coffin of this rumour.
Its all about what KTM wants. If hes missing 4 rounds hes out of it. They have Cairolli to go win his 10th. KTM would love a sweep on both sides of the pond. Its more likely than you think. KTM wrote the contract not god... if KTM has Cairolli set over there and wants Herlings over here n both agree the contract means literally nothing... at all. It would if one was in disagreement, if they both want it, it happens, period.
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Dougy1 wrote:
Just a question. If her Herlings faded mx gp was prepared to put the work in and do nex years sx season. We’re yo got him...
Just a question. If her Herlings faded mx gp was prepared to put the work in and do nex years sx season. We’re yo got him. Too much talent to not do good , but would be interesting.. has he done any euro sx events?
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Prob 10th place for a couple seasons.
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KTM would be wise to try to take the MXGP and Pro Motocross championships (possibly a supercross title as well this year)

I can see the ad now "We won everything, buy our shit"
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Helda wrote:
Lol, a rider like JH can do what he wants, remember RV was also contracted to race the AMA SX/MX when he went to the GP's
davis224 wrote:
He wanted to retire, Monster/Kawi had him under contract to race. They found a middle ground in the GPs.
Press516 wrote:
Agree, that wasn't the most dedicated effort... Sadly. Kind of an afterthought. Huge RV fan, but it felt like he had thrown in the towel already...
Agree, that wasn't the most dedicated effort... Sadly. Kind of an afterthought. Huge RV fan, but it felt like he had thrown in the towel already.

I feel this would be a much different situation... And I believe if Herlings wants to race in the US, they'll find a way.
I think so too, but it all depends on if he would rather go for a US title and have his own unique record, or stay over there and go after Everts win record.
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If Herlings does in fact come to America for a summer there will be a lot of butt hurt American fans watching Herlings embarrass the field. Dude is on another level outdoors and would easily go 24-0 if he can keep it on two wheels.

After what happened at RedBud in October its safe to say hes going to stay with the fast guys in Europe.

Herlings contesting the full SX series would be interesting... Outdoors he has nothing left to prove.
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I'm all for Sir Jeffrey Herlings to the Nats, and yep, he would kick butt, there's also a chance that he would have his ego bruised.
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mh226 wrote:
If Herlings does in fact come to America for a summer there will be a lot of butt hurt American fans watching Herlings embarrass the field...
If Herlings does in fact come to America for a summer there will be a lot of butt hurt American fans watching Herlings embarrass the field. Dude is on another level outdoors and would easily go 24-0 if he can keep it on two wheels.

After what happened at RedBud in October its safe to say hes going to stay with the fast guys in Europe.

Herlings contesting the full SX series would be interesting... Outdoors he has nothing left to prove.
Easily 24-0. Lol. He didnt even win every moto in mxgp. Herlings is a badazz,. A healthy kroc, tomac, musquin. He s not going 24-0
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mxb2 wrote:
Easily 24-0. Lol. He didnt even win every moto in mxgp. Herlings is a badazz,. A healthy kroc, tomac, musquin. He s not going 24-0
The MXGP guys are badass fast. Yes he got beat in the GP's.... Last time Jeffrey raced Tomac on an American national track he beat him by 40 seconds Moto 1 and 69 seconds Moto 2. If he loses it will be because he made a mistake and went down. Tomac, Webb, Kenny, Marv will not beat him without some help.
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mxb2 wrote:
Easily 24-0. Lol. He didnt even win every moto in mxgp. Herlings is a badazz,. A healthy kroc, tomac, musquin. He s not going 24-0
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The MXGP guys are badass fast. Yes he got beat in the GP's.... Last time Jeffrey raced Tomac on an American national track he beat him...
The MXGP guys are badass fast. Yes he got beat in the GP's.... Last time Jeffrey raced Tomac on an American national track he beat him by 40 seconds Moto 1 and 69 seconds Moto 2. If he loses it will be because he made a mistake and went down. Tomac, Webb, Kenny, Marv will not beat him without some help.
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin are on the same level as the top dudes in europe. And mistakes are part of mx.
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What RedBull wants is........................?
Red Bull wants to have all the best riders in the world racing in the same series regardless of energy drink affiliation . The sport has a chance to be the most popular it can be all over the world , every racer in the mx nationals should be petitioning Herlings to come over . A rising tide raises all ships
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What RedBull wants is........................?
Is to sweep the world with KTM'S...
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin...
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin are on the same level as the top dudes in europe. And mistakes are part of mx.
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings would win.

No doubt the top american dudes are Badass. I refused to believe the Euro's were more Badass until I saw it in person.

A crossover Gp / National would be epic. Logistically a nightmare, but all the best dudes in the world on the same track at the same time, in a meaningful race would end this debate.
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin...
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin are on the same level as the top dudes in europe. And mistakes are part of mx.
mh226 wrote:
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings...
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings would win.

No doubt the top american dudes are Badass. I refused to believe the Euro's were more Badass until I saw it in person.

A crossover Gp / National would be epic. Logistically a nightmare, but all the best dudes in the world on the same track at the same time, in a meaningful race would end this debate.
And Tomac has won 5/6 motos in MXGP. We can do this all day
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mxb2 wrote:
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin...
Yep, i was there,. Marvin was winning and crashed. Moto 2, tomac was in title mode. Giving herlings props all day long. But kroc tomac musquin are on the same level as the top dudes in europe. And mistakes are part of mx.
mh226 wrote:
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings...
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings would win.

No doubt the top american dudes are Badass. I refused to believe the Euro's were more Badass until I saw it in person.

A crossover Gp / National would be epic. Logistically a nightmare, but all the best dudes in the world on the same track at the same time, in a meaningful race would end this debate.
Agreed,. I would love herlings to race the usa series,. But guess we shall find out soon.
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mh226 wrote:
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings...
The last time they raced an American national track was Redbud. Tomac was healthy. Ironman Eli was in title defense mode so its understandable that Herlings would win.

No doubt the top american dudes are Badass. I refused to believe the Euro's were more Badass until I saw it in person.

A crossover Gp / National would be epic. Logistically a nightmare, but all the best dudes in the world on the same track at the same time, in a meaningful race would end this debate.
In my opinion a lot of poeple are putting way too much emphasis on what happened at Red Bud as some indication that the American guys can't go fast outdoors anymore. Americans have done great at the MXGP races in the US the last few years (I think Tomac won 5 out of his last 6 motos), and the US should have won at Maggiora a couple of years ago if Anderson does not get landed on (remember when he beat Herlings on a broken foot??) I just think people are extrapolating way too much based on Mxon at Red Bud which truly was a bad day for the Americans. Coldenhoff won both his motos, but does anyone really think in a complete series Coldenhoff is beating the top American guys consistently? Doubt it...
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One of the reasons USA struggled at the MXDN is because the lines euro riders take and the way the ruts etc developed on the track.
Herlings would definitely need to adjust to the way the US tracks develop, not to say he wouldn’t win races.. but 24-0 is ridiculous
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I'd assume he'd likely be training out of Baker's Factory too if it came to fruition. That would be one hell of an addition to an already stacked training group. I wouldn't say 24-0, but he'd be my favorite for the championship.
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He’s got more to gain than to lose by doing it. No one else in the goat argument can say that won here too. Plus he’s already got 80 something GP wins. He can still go back after this year and shatter that record
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If he comes here and dominates with a humble attitude it’d be a marketing genius plan. His legend is already huge but that would just make it that much bigger. He would draw a lot more attention back to the GP’s when he went back. It’d really be a win/win for everyone.
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If I was Herlings I would stay with MXGP. His fanbase is in MXGP and his legacy is gonna be in MXGP, I watched him at Ironman and I'm pretty sure he could come over here for a year and repeat that a bunch of times. I would keep chasing everts record over coming here and beating Tomac or whoever is on top this year. Plus the stops on the MXGP tour seem a tad bit more interesting than Crawfordsville Indiana or Jacksonville Florida haha.
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Buzzard167 wrote:
If I was Herlings I would stay with MXGP. His fanbase is in MXGP and his legacy is gonna be in MXGP, I watched him at...
If I was Herlings I would stay with MXGP. His fanbase is in MXGP and his legacy is gonna be in MXGP, I watched him at Ironman and I'm pretty sure he could come over here for a year and repeat that a bunch of times. I would keep chasing everts record over coming here and beating Tomac or whoever is on top this year. Plus the stops on the MXGP tour seem a tad bit more interesting than Crawfordsville Indiana or Jacksonville Florida haha.
His fan base is world wide. Doesn't matter where!
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Buzzard167 wrote:
If I was Herlings I would stay with MXGP. His fanbase is in MXGP and his legacy is gonna be in MXGP, I watched him at...
If I was Herlings I would stay with MXGP. His fanbase is in MXGP and his legacy is gonna be in MXGP, I watched him at Ironman and I'm pretty sure he could come over here for a year and repeat that a bunch of times. I would keep chasing everts record over coming here and beating Tomac or whoever is on top this year. Plus the stops on the MXGP tour seem a tad bit more interesting than Crawfordsville Indiana or Jacksonville Florida haha.
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His fan base is world wide. Doesn't matter where!
Kinda like MXGP.......
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