Red "Bull-sh**"

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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 4:49am
I always knew this stuff and other energy drinks were crap and dangerous:
http://www.theecologist.org/pages/archive_detail.asp?content_id=918
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4/14/2009 7:13am
Good read!
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4/14/2009 7:18am
I love me some...Vegas Bombs (shot of crown, shot of peach schnapps, and red bull)!!!!

Yummy!

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4/14/2009 7:20am
Think about this before pounding a red bull after a moto.

"Part of the concern is that while Red Bull is marketed as a healthful drink, it doesn’t do anything to nourish the body or replenish it after physical exertion. In fact, because of the drink’s high caffeine content, it can be dehydrating. For a person engaged in heavy physical activity, adding Red Bull can be a lethal mixture. A small number of people have died from heart failure after combining Red Bull with physical exertion and, while no direct causation has been attributed to Red Bull, the dehydrating effect of the drink combined with exercise has been mooted as a major strain on the heart."

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4/14/2009 7:36am
One day the feds are going to start tightly regulating these drinks, killing off many of them, and then this industry will be in deep shit because they've become so dependent on their money.

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4/14/2009 7:45am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2009 7:46am
Did everyone not already know this? Same shit thats been said over and over again and it still gets brought up like its something knew. Does anyone actually think its healthy?


And Fla, I think the only regulating that will be done are on the ones that are much stronger then others, ie; BooKoo, Cocaine, and Spike.
Also age restrictions will pop-up soon. I dont think the big companies, Rockstar, Monster, and RedBull are going anywhere.
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Did everyone not already know this? Same shit thats been said over and over again and it still gets brought up like its something knew. Does...
Did everyone not already know this? Same shit thats been said over and over again and it still gets brought up like its something knew. Does anyone actually think its healthy?


And Fla, I think the only regulating that will be done are on the ones that are much stronger then others, ie; BooKoo, Cocaine, and Spike.
Also age restrictions will pop-up soon. I dont think the big companies, Rockstar, Monster, and RedBull are going anywhere.
Yeah, the tobacco and alcohol sponsors aren't going anywhere either...



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4/14/2009 7:54am
But the colors look so cool on race machines.
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4/14/2009 7:59am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2009 7:59am
Did everyone not already know this? Same shit thats been said over and over again and it still gets brought up like its something knew. Does...
Did everyone not already know this? Same shit thats been said over and over again and it still gets brought up like its something knew. Does anyone actually think its healthy?


And Fla, I think the only regulating that will be done are on the ones that are much stronger then others, ie; BooKoo, Cocaine, and Spike.
Also age restrictions will pop-up soon. I dont think the big companies, Rockstar, Monster, and RedBull are going anywhere.
huck wrote:
Yeah, the tobacco and alcohol sponsors aren't going anywhere either...



slightly different, for now. how many years was it before the govt got involved with those industries?
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4/14/2009 8:13am
Interesting to read that is has already been banned in France. Which country is next?
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4/14/2009 8:14am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:23pm
Gotta say, any who really really think the Bull's are healthy
are idiots.
Sorry for the bluntness, but after a moto!
Gimme me a break!
Those Bull's & Monster's shown in photo opps after the win
are just props. Most likely just good old water in them all, or
an actual brew that's good for you.
I've drank my share, sure. Part of the job so it seems . When
working extremely long days, flying, driving, whatever, for me
it's just a pick-me-up! For me in moderation. Heck even to much
coffee isn't good for anyone, so why abuse anything for that matter.
The "Gives you wings" is just a ploy, a slogan! Taking it to the bank
again is silly!
After, the dreaded after, the crash gets you. The crash & that feeling
of low sucks! So hey, grab another, not! Be smart!!!!!!!
To too many strawberries will give you the "shitz",
so being sensible about it all is key.
Yrs. ago when I was just learning how to ride,
we were out camping in the desert. I'd see older guys come in
from their loop, hot mind you, & grab a beer! An f-n beer! To this day that
doesn't make sense to me. Your body needs to be "replenished"........
Sodas, beer, Monster's & Bull's do nothing! Plus it's bad for the bod!
Like it or not, it's proven fact!
Woohoo "Moderation people....."Woohoo
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4/14/2009 8:25am
"The caffeine – 80mg per can, more than three times what’s in the same amount of Coke, but a similar amount to a cup of strong coffee – produces the trademark ‘buzz’. "

I think there may be labeling issues at some point, but if the issue is too much sugar and caffeine, why not write about Starbucks and Kelloggs?

I think some of this drama stems from seeing kids swilling kegs of Rockstar and the carry over from "energy" supplements that contained some form of ephedrine. It'd be interesting to see the actual case studies of people who died from "heart failure" in the midst of exercise after drinking energy drinks.

Side bar, some sports physiologists have concluded that non-fat chocolate milk is an ideal source of glycogen to replenish your energy stores in the hour or so after strenuous exercise. Apparently it has the right balance of carbs and protein. So cop a chocolate milk and a banana between motos.

http://theathletereport.blogspot.com/2008/02/new-post-workout-drink-chocolate-milk.html





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All above is spot on. Only thing I see is a surgeons general warning in the future. They will still sell it. It will still be as popular. I doubt the industry will suffer immediate ill effects. The rules placed upon them will be in baby steps just as they were on Cigarettes. Reminder, Camel and Coors used to sponsor the sport.
4/14/2009 8:50am
Tiki wrote:
All above is spot on. Only thing I see is a surgeons general warning in the future. They will still sell it. It will still be...
All above is spot on. Only thing I see is a surgeons general warning in the future. They will still sell it. It will still be as popular. I doubt the industry will suffer immediate ill effects. The rules placed upon them will be in baby steps just as they were on Cigarettes. Reminder, Camel and Coors used to sponsor the sport.
key word
'used to'
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4/14/2009 8:54am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:23pm
For me I'm not bashing anyone!
For me I appreciate their commitment & sport support.
For me even the motorcycles themselves are not always good for us humans!
Again, people 1-n-all, it's moderation!
It's being smart!
It's being safe!
Shoot, 1 smoke a day isn't a pack a day, get it!
Woohoo "Wear a helmet, enjoy the ride!"...................Woohoo
Dave O. Wink
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Tiki wrote:
All above is spot on. Only thing I see is a surgeons general warning in the future. They will still sell it. It will still be...
All above is spot on. Only thing I see is a surgeons general warning in the future. They will still sell it. It will still be as popular. I doubt the industry will suffer immediate ill effects. The rules placed upon them will be in baby steps just as they were on Cigarettes. Reminder, Camel and Coors used to sponsor the sport.
Exactly. Like I said earlier how long to it take the govt to regulate the tabocco industry,

They already have warning lables on them, they might just get one that is more stern. Also the advertising might get watched over closer and the claims will have to be proven. No huge or sudden shockwaves are going to come through
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4/14/2009 10:20am Edited Date/Time 4/14/2009 10:20am
Red Bull and Monster have spent hundreds of millions maybe with marketing that tries to hide that fact this stuff tastes like crap but you will be cool if you drink it.
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4/14/2009 10:24am
I hope they never get rid of Red Bull. A Red Bull and a bananna is a great snack when you need a quick pick me up.
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4/14/2009 10:41am
todder wrote:
Red Bull and Monster have spent hundreds of millions maybe with marketing that tries to hide that fact this stuff tastes like crap but you will...
Red Bull and Monster have spent hundreds of millions maybe with marketing that tries to hide that fact this stuff tastes like crap but you will be cool if you drink it.
Actually, I have seen Red Bull commercials but I have never seen a Monster commercial. Aside from them throwing a lot of money into SX/MX, I don't remember any campaigns wherein they told the consumer how great it tasted. What Monster is doing is no different than what Camel, Coors Light, etc. did over the years.

To each his own, but we should be glad that we have title sponsors that are still willing to support the sport. I don't smoke, but I didn't rally against Camel when they were a title sponsor.
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4/14/2009 11:52am
At 3 bucks a can its bad on your wallet!Wink
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4/14/2009 11:54am

i think small steps have already been taken to stop their marketing to the youth. anyone tried to buy a set of kids gear branded with an energy drink? i.e. Monster O'neal gear or Rockstar Answer gear? i heard dealers are no longer able to get that stuff in the kids sizes...
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4/14/2009 12:15pm
actually I know somebody who suffered some kinda heart attack during a soccer match on a hot summer day. he fell into coma for a month or so. it turned out that the only thing he drank during the game was some energy drink. and he drank A LOT of it. If I remember correctly it was more than 1liter. Doctors said that was the reason for his heart attack.

but to be honest.... how stupid can somebody be and drink so much of that crap on a hot day during some exercise!? anybody who thinks this kinda beverage is healthy must be pretty dumb... just take a look on the ingredients and it takes no Doctor to see that this stuff is crap.
and yes I admit I enjoy also a RedBull or Rockstar from time 2time.
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4/14/2009 2:12pm
If they did a test like that on 90% of the 'food' most people eat on a day to day basis you find results just as negative or worse.
Big immoral corporations don't care about what they put in these things so long as they can sell them by the truck full, and we eat it up like it's going out of fashion.
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4/14/2009 2:22pm
Honestly, does anybody really drink the stuff for health or performance benefits? No different then a cup of coffee as far as I'm concerned. I drink it on the way to and from the track so I don't fall asleep on the long drive, and I drink Gatorade and water at the track. I do continue to buy Red Bull and Monster simply because they are major sponsors of the type of sports that interest me.
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4/14/2009 3:17pm
True the stuff does no good for you, possibly dehydrates you, and should never be used when doing any form of physical activity.

But hopefully it will not get to the point where it is banned, if used like the cans tell you it is not a danger, and should never be banned for kids, therefore hopefully keeping their money in moto.
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DownSouth wrote:
Interesting to read that is has already been banned in France. Which country is next?
that article dates back to 2007, at that time it had been banned in France following a few deaths in clubs in Europe of people who had been drinking heavy amount of mixing red bull and alcohol (vodka) and in some cases had also been on X. The product was labelled as a doping drink.

Red Bull is back on the market in France. First in April 2008 after Red Bull seriously modified part of the chemical formula (no taurine, no glucuronolactone) then in July 2008 the French government decided not to take into account the recommendation of the French equivalent of the FDSA and authorized Red Bull on the market.

It is still not allowed to be sold in Denmark.
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flarider wrote:
One day the feds are going to start tightly regulating these drinks, killing off many of them, and then this industry will be in deep shit...
One day the feds are going to start tightly regulating these drinks, killing off many of them, and then this industry will be in deep shit because they've become so dependent on their money.
Soon you will have to sign a waiver to drink it in the USA
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4/14/2009 5:06pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:23pm
hmmmm isn't this the same website and enthusiasts that are all up in arms about the lead ban?


I can choose for myself, the government doesn't have to babysit.


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4/14/2009 5:15pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 11:23pm
Hey its not like this hasn't been looked at before and I'm sure that "the Ecologist" is totally impartial too...


Red Bull and Urban Legends



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4/14/2009 7:06pm
huck wrote:
I love me some...Vegas Bombs (shot of crown, shot of peach schnapps, and red bull)!!!!

Yummy!

Sounds tasty....I usually have just the "Crownbomb"

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