Over 35 No Jumping Class?

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12/26/2018 12:04pm
There's always vintage racing...
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12/26/2018 12:08pm
I'll bet it was pretty funny watching a bunch of Vet class riders try to "Bubba scrub" everything. Probably more dangerous than if they "just sent it".
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12/26/2018 12:16pm
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
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12/26/2018 12:19pm
CozMan wrote:
I'm 43 and haven't been in a race since probably 1988. That said, I love riding my bike and do so at the local track all...
I'm 43 and haven't been in a race since probably 1988. That said, I love riding my bike and do so at the local track all the time. If they had a full class of 40+ that included NO JUMPING, I'd sign up in a flash. I so miss the adrenaline of "the battle", but I don't race because I refuse to do anything except for small tabletops.

I'm sure there are others out there like me that would mix it up without the physical dangers. I endorse this idea and think it would be great fun to race in a class that was all about the racing without the jumps.
You can still race if you don't do all the jumps. This mindset is a big part of why MX is suffering in attendance. People only...
You can still race if you don't do all the jumps. This mindset is a big part of why MX is suffering in attendance. People only want to participate if they have a chance to win. Most of my moto injuries had nothing to do with jumps.
Sure you can race... but couldn't it be considered more dangerous if you have some guys not jumping who become obstacles for those who are jumping (see Red Bud MXON Leap debate).

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12/26/2018 12:41pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 12:41pm
If I didn’t want to jump, I’d go race enduros...

I’m over 40. Do I send the “big triple” or “big quad” that only the pros are doing? Hell no. But I’m perfectly comfortable on 90 percent of the tracks I go to jumping most anything.

Like someone else said, I’m ok with a beginner class that limits jumping. I always thought it was ridiculous when the top five “beginner” riders were jumping pretty much everything. But once out of the beginner class, either get used to jumps or find another discipline.
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12/26/2018 12:41pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 12:45pm
ga_pike wrote:
Sure you can race... but couldn't it be considered more dangerous if you have some guys not jumping who become obstacles for those who are jumping...
Sure you can race... but couldn't it be considered more dangerous if you have some guys not jumping who become obstacles for those who are jumping (see Red Bud MXON Leap debate).

These are local races, not AMA, and this is in the lower skill level class like Novice and beginner etc. In the AMA, one doesn't need to be nearly as concerned about a rider in front of them hitting the brakes unexpectedly on the face of a jump and just rolling over it, however, there are countless cases in pro motocross where a guy did a double over 3 jumps and a guy right behind him did all 3 so the guy behind had to be going much faster. There are also countless cases in pro motocross where one guy lands on top of another, or crashes into the side of another over a jump, yet they still do not have a no jump rule.

As far as these local races go in the novice and beginner classes, one simply needs to be alert and expect the unexpected and use their brain. There is NOT a big check waiting for them if they win the race, and these are RECREATIONAL races, so they shouldn't be an idiot and ride with reckless abandon like unfortunately some people do. If one follows these simple guidelines, there shouldn't be any problems.

I will say that I am not a fan of double jumps where the first jump is so peaked and steep on the backside that you either have to hit it at 3 mph or 50 mph (at least as far as a vintage bike goes), and this is exactly how a few jumps are at Perris.

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12/26/2018 12:41pm
barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
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12/26/2018 12:46pm
I've been to tracks that limit D/C classes from jumping the bigger jumps. If you do you are moved up a class. To limit jumps in a class where guys are old enough to know their skills is a bit much. Either sack up and send it or come to terms that guys your age are faster.
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12/26/2018 12:48pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 12:52pm
zehn wrote:
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
Look out we have a clown here, lol.
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12/26/2018 12:50pm
Not for me, thanks. I like the jumps. A man just has to know his limits. As a 55 year old slow Intermediate, I can safely do everything at Washougal but the triple, and I could do that too if I'd just sack up. Maybe next year. Smile But that's what I always said about that first long table at Hangtown and I never sacked up for that either. Next time I'm there tho......

Not much feels better than getting a tough jump down smooth. Maybe getting the whoops right. It's one of the reasons I like racing PIR so much - that's a jumpy little track but they are mostly safe. Some jumps help separate the slow (me) from the really slow.

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12/26/2018 12:52pm
omalley wrote:
If I didn’t want to jump, I’d go race enduros... I’m over 40. Do I send the “big triple” or “big quad” that only the pros...
If I didn’t want to jump, I’d go race enduros...

I’m over 40. Do I send the “big triple” or “big quad” that only the pros are doing? Hell no. But I’m perfectly comfortable on 90 percent of the tracks I go to jumping most anything.

Like someone else said, I’m ok with a beginner class that limits jumping. I always thought it was ridiculous when the top five “beginner” riders were jumping pretty much everything. But once out of the beginner class, either get used to jumps or find another discipline.
I understand what you mean but, it’s not about you or me... how do we get new folk on a dirt bike?!

here two newbies... there is where it's all about imo.





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12/26/2018 12:54pm
ga_pike wrote:
Sure you can race... but couldn't it be considered more dangerous if you have some guys not jumping who become obstacles for those who are jumping...
Sure you can race... but couldn't it be considered more dangerous if you have some guys not jumping who become obstacles for those who are jumping (see Red Bud MXON Leap debate).

This has been going on since the inception of jumps in motocross. I find this thread laughable. If you're not comfortable doing the jump, don't, and don't put yourself in a position to be landed on. Simple. Kids on minis don't all do the jumps and they make it just fine. The world is soft enough already.
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12/26/2018 12:54pm
Yes, there is an "Over 35 No Jumping" class.

It's called "Over 50".

And that's the class I race.

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12/26/2018 12:55pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 12:56pm
Not for me, thanks. I like the jumps. A man just has to know his limits. As a 55 year old slow Intermediate, I can safely...
Not for me, thanks. I like the jumps. A man just has to know his limits. As a 55 year old slow Intermediate, I can safely do everything at Washougal but the triple, and I could do that too if I'd just sack up. Maybe next year. Smile But that's what I always said about that first long table at Hangtown and I never sacked up for that either. Next time I'm there tho......

Not much feels better than getting a tough jump down smooth. Maybe getting the whoops right. It's one of the reasons I like racing PIR so much - that's a jumpy little track but they are mostly safe. Some jumps help separate the slow (me) from the really slow.

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"A man just has to know his limits."

Gotta love the Clint quotes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VrFV5r8cs0

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12/26/2018 12:57pm
I am nearing 50 and love jumps. I don’t hit the biggest out there and at best was a mid pack B rider. As far as my injuries my most severe was non jump incident. Maybe a non jumping class would bring a draw but for me the adrenaline factor lies with jumping for the most part. One option is to run vintage on dual shockers as not many peopl air those out. Not saying I’m right but personally I would have little interest. One exception would be the Red Bud Grass Race every year but I’ve never had the date open to attend yet.
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12/26/2018 12:58pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 1:01pm
barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.


All the people who are dead, paralyzed and in the hospital as the result of jumping in MX would not agree with you. Its about having fun and supporting the sport which needs all it can get.
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12/26/2018 1:03pm
I don't get it. If you're uncomfortable doing any jumps then what are you doing at a race? Not trying to be mean or rude but why go racing if your skillset is not up to par?
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12/26/2018 1:06pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 1:08pm
barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
[i]The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. [/i] All the people who are dead, paralyzed and in the hospital as the result...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.


All the people who are dead, paralyzed and in the hospital as the result of jumping in MX would not agree with you. Its about having fun and supporting the sport which needs all it can get.
LOL, you really have no idea what the dead ones think and are assuming what the ones that are still alive think unless you ask them.

People get killed or injured in many sports that do NOT include jumps, so does this mean they should outlaw sky diving or nascar, or road racing, or eliminate downhills in mountain biking or snow skiing, or skateboarding etc...I think not.

People that participate in sports take an unnecessary risk, and it is their free choice to do so...period...end of story.

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12/26/2018 1:25pm
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I raced a no-jumping class in Delta, OH back around 2004 or so. I had a great time. I got 2nd and was neck and neck...
I raced a no-jumping class in Delta, OH back around 2004 or so.

I had a great time. I got 2nd and was neck and neck with the leader. Lots of planning on the corners and trying to find the best way from obstacle to obstacle. He had obviously raced it before because he knew the best lines but it was a great time and I was more focused on the actual racing than other classes where I was more concerned about setting myself up for the jumps.

Ivan
Delta is such a shit hole anymore lol. Tried a race there last year and pulled off in the second moto. The jump faces were so...
Delta is such a shit hole anymore lol. Tried a race there last year and pulled off in the second moto. The jump faces were so sketchy I wasn’t comfortable hitting them. They had A & B class guys getting hurt and lots of complaints to the owner about how terrible they were. His comeback was they should “know how to ride” lol
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With any luck he'll sell like he did his "other" track. That track is primo now.
Which one is that?
12/26/2018 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 1:28pm
Jumping a single full throttle was always just as fun as hitting a 90 footer back when I was good. I think I'd like a track without any gaps these days. Nothing left to prove and I value what's left of my brain and body.
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12/26/2018 1:28pm
NorCal 50+ wrote:
I went to a no jumping race. It was called a hare scramble.
That's what I told my wife......then one of the last hare scrambles I did this summer included an MX track. Fcking amazing how the C class can scrub, whip, and rail corners though.
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The local sand track where I ride has very little for jumps but the challenge is in the sand itself. Very tiring to ride. But nice and soft when you fall! Fun and challenging for all skill levels.
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12/26/2018 3:04pm
barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
zehn wrote:
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
Its always the same with him Zehn, He knows everything and has done it better than anyone. Lol

But to get back to the original question-- Yes, I agree that most of the jumps at our local tracks are too big/steep for just about any +40 guys that actually have to go to work on Monday (not including Ex-Pros that never quit riding).Yes, you don't HAVE to jump them ,but it certainly takes away the rhythm of racing if you have to roll 7 dangerous jumps per lap,lol. . And its also one of the reasons that our local woods /cross country/hare scrambles series( AWRCS) draws 10 times the amount of vets/seniors than the local Moto scene does. And those tracks do have jumps, just they are more old school ski-jump style.

Also GangGreen,, there is a series back East here called the "Masters of Motocross" . Its all geared toward Vets/Seniors and have a bunch of classes to accommodate +25 all the way thru to +60 with various skill levels. Its for old guys on modern bikes on modern tracks that are somewhat "de-tuned" to old-school caliber. Meaning a lot of safe table tops,ski jumps, and no 80' do-or-die doubles/triples. The back and forth racing is spectacular and very rarely have meat-wagon runs. They are a blast . Most of the tracks in the series are within a reasonable distance of you,too.
12/26/2018 3:36pm
With everyone on Altas
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12/26/2018 4:05pm Edited Date/Time 12/26/2018 4:29pm
barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
zehn wrote:
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
OldPro277 wrote:
Its always the same with him Zehn, He knows everything and has done it better than anyone. Lol But to get back to the original question--...
Its always the same with him Zehn, He knows everything and has done it better than anyone. Lol

But to get back to the original question-- Yes, I agree that most of the jumps at our local tracks are too big/steep for just about any +40 guys that actually have to go to work on Monday (not including Ex-Pros that never quit riding).Yes, you don't HAVE to jump them ,but it certainly takes away the rhythm of racing if you have to roll 7 dangerous jumps per lap,lol. . And its also one of the reasons that our local woods /cross country/hare scrambles series( AWRCS) draws 10 times the amount of vets/seniors than the local Moto scene does. And those tracks do have jumps, just they are more old school ski-jump style.

Also GangGreen,, there is a series back East here called the "Masters of Motocross" . Its all geared toward Vets/Seniors and have a bunch of classes to accommodate +25 all the way thru to +60 with various skill levels. Its for old guys on modern bikes on modern tracks that are somewhat "de-tuned" to old-school caliber. Meaning a lot of safe table tops,ski jumps, and no 80' do-or-die doubles/triples. The back and forth racing is spectacular and very rarely have meat-wagon runs. They are a blast . Most of the tracks in the series are within a reasonable distance of you,too.
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"Its always the same with him Zehn, He knows everything and has done it better than anyone. Lol"


Hey...where ya been?

I've missed your narcissistic attempts to boost your self image by feebly attempting to make sarcastic comments about others.

Happy New Years!


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12/26/2018 4:12pm
EnvyMedia wrote:
I don't get it. If you're uncomfortable doing any jumps then what are you doing at a race? Not trying to be mean or rude but...
I don't get it. If you're uncomfortable doing any jumps then what are you doing at a race? Not trying to be mean or rude but why go racing if your skillset is not up to par?
Your notafan of Newbs and growing the sport A lol
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barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
zehn wrote:
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
Doing all the huge jump showing a picture with 3' of air!
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12/26/2018 4:26pm
zehn wrote:
Look out, we got a tough guy here.
I saw that. My panties are soaked !
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barnett468 wrote:
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies. I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since...
The "no jump" rule is totally gay and is for pussies.

I'm 63, and until 4 months ago I have not been on any bike since 1993. This photo is at Perris Raceway 2 months ago where there were huge jumps, and newer $9,000.00 450's in my class and I spanked em all. Since I can do that, the no jump rule seems pointless to me.

https://images.craigslist.org/00Z0Z_76v6SUVuSBT_600x450.jpg
Curious, what class were you riding where you were coming off a 16 year hiatus from riding and managed to smoke everyone riding 450s while you were on an 81 YZ? How many riders were in that class?
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