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Users firing insults back and forth at each other usually get edited/deleted. We prefer social media, not anti-social. There are enough other places you can go if all you want to do is hurl insults.
That being said, the state of our world is going to crap. The OP posted about the shooting (again, no link or anything) so people could understand what really happened, and stop all the speculating...so kudos to the OP for doing that.
What I cant tolerate in the blatant "This is so wrong and in bad taste, you HAVE to take it down immediately" call from some of the .....how shall I say it....lesser sacked-up individuals.
If people want to watch it, then look it up. If you dont want to watch it..move on to the next topic, shut the f up, and stop ramming your "opinion" down our throats.
Again, I respect the hard work you put into this place...and I understand that it in no mean an east job..and usually a thankless task.....but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade. If I have to be punished for that, then so be it. The world is becoming such a shithole with mass shootings, police shootings, Hondurans seeking "asylum" (bullshit)...Im glad the OP posted this to show the truth about what happened for once...something we rarely see in this day and age.
Again, my apologies for stirring something up...that was never my intention. It just gets tiring..ya know?
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After I quite racing professionally, I went into gnarly panic attacks and anxiety for a few years. I was COMPLETELY fine, then one day it hit me like a ton of bricks. I was never suicidal, but I was baffled at how strong the mind can be. Especially when you aren’t “in control”. It got rough. Real rough and changed me for a while. I had no idea how to handle it. I didn’t even know what “it” was. The doctors said it was depression, threw medication at me. What a rollercoaster that was... I had myself convinced I let everyone who ever helped me down. My friends that shared the same dreams? I let them down too. Even though they all loved me. It was in between my two ears that really created this sense of failure. Nobody else was. I didn’t want to go out and be “weird” and have a panic attack. Thankfully, I did have friends and family and good people that helped me. I will never stop fearing of feeling like that again. I have to steer my mind right all the time.
as I got into adulthood and real life, I heard or was close to a few more that committed suicide. I then started to realize it’s not selfish. You have to be in a dark and dreary place, a place where you think people are better off without you.
I believe, unless you have got to a point where you don’t feel in control it’s not right to judge those that lost control. It’s a weird thing
It’s sad all the way around. I hope Tyler found peace and your friend too Peely. I’m sorry for your loss. I know it hurts
Edit: I just read the post above, and yeah that sums up what I was trying to convey.
Very sad, indeed.
They aren’t thinking they are going to feel better, they are thinking others will.
It’s an act of the exact opposite of selfishness. It may not be the reality, but it’s what they have built up in their mind.
It’s a messed up way of thinking and not rationale at all, but it becomes reality to people who get to that point.
I hope I don’t sound insensitive because I’m not tying to be. I’ve lost my bi-polar grandfather to suicide, a high school friend to suicide, one of my best friends little brother just killed himself at the age of 13. My head isn’t perfect and I’ve been in dark places before and would rather not to go into the specifics at the moment. To say it’s not selfish just seems backwards to me.
They don’t show “it”. It explains what happened with a litttle bit of body-cam footage.
Probably shown as a product of our society always questioning what happened and why. Even people in this thread are still commenting wrong facts and the answers are there.
I am so sorry Tyler got to that point. I feel sorry for his loved ones, the police involved and anyone who’s life was touched by One Punch.
A rational person will easily see it as an act of selfishness. And act that leaves everyone to mourn and be left wondering why.
It’s my belief that most (not all) that commit suicide have a way of thinking that doesn’t make any sense at all, they have themselves convinced that what they are doing is going to help those around them by ridding them of a problem. They see it as a sacrifice to better the lives of others. Hence, it’s not selfish. It is their reality. It may not be the real reality, but that is what mental illness does. Makes you live in a false reality.
Since I have toe’d the line with this “false reality” with my own demons in the past, I have new sympathy because when you are in that frame of mind, it’s scary and real. Words people tell you don’t feel real.
So, not trying to change your mind, or peelies, I’m just saying I have forgave and have a lot of sympathy for people close to me and far that feel their only way out is suicide and I used to think it was the ultimate act of selfishness
So, especially with my dad was when the realization came that my dad wasn’t trying to be selfish and giving up to make things worse for everyone, he thought he had to do what he did to make the lives of others better. For that, my hatred went away and the mourning and love set in. I wish things could have been better for him and he didn’t get to the place he was at. I don’t believe he was selfish at all, I believe he was mentally sick and nobody knew it. nobody knew what he was going through.
And again, I’m not bragging or proud to say this, but I don’t believe those that have never had mental illness understand it and even doctors and psychiatrist only have an idea of what it actually feels like.
Anyways... enough psychology thoughts today. Back to Moto.
RIP
Just because I do something I believe is right, that does not inherantly make it right.
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I only met him once and despite some of his on-track antics, he struck me as the type
of person that would stop and help a senior citizen change a flat tire in the rain.
Seemed like he had a big heart. I hope he is at peace. RIP, Tyler.
i know depression is very real, very dark, and very hard to overcome. these are things i know. no disrespect meant to anyone in this thread as i know a lot of people have been close to the edge and i urge anyone that is in that state of mind to seek help.
Why would you want to watch a video of another human being taking their own life in such a violent way, or any way for that matter?
I also happen to agree with those that think this is a bit inconsiderate of family members and close friends who may see this.
My head space was so fucked up I was convinced that I was now a burden and everyone would be much better off if they didn't have to deal with all my wheelchair shit (obviously now I know that couldn't be further from the truth)..
But I will agree on the way to do it being/seeming selfish.. Even in my head I had it all sorted, my loved ones could convince themselves it was an accident and the emergency workers finding me would be better prepared to deal with what they saw..
Absolutely fucken stoked I didn't go through with it though, and not even remotely close to feeling remotely close to that since.
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