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I think you place too much importance on how rich the promotors can get over seeing the best in the world race on proper motocross tracks around the world.
I forget the names of the rd's, but some of the SX is a fucking freak show of shit, Watching your best guys paddling round a mud tracks at 3 mph. Or a super dry one lined goat trail where no one can pass, or lapping the slow guys 3 times, or seeing the stadium floor come through the dirt as the track isnt built well enough.
SX is a joke. but hey enough casual fans will pay to enter the stadium on a sat night so its better then MXGP.
Sad times.
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SX is followed, "by in large", by the exact same people that follow MX. The exact same media outlets cover both sports. They have the exact same target demographics. The stands are filled with hardcore fans who understand the sport and who are passionate about it.
MX fans are a bunch of hot dog eating chumps who get frills sitting next to a big jump for 4 hours...you can't deny that.
And you are correct, if the top Americans gave MXGP a go, it would become a much more prestigious series. Without them it falls behind supercross. You are exactly right.
You're grasping at straws here bro...and you're allowing your MXGP bias to make flimsy arguments.
great article about last year with actual numbers etc etc
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mattrybaltowski/2018/05/13/supercross-caps…
What is a joke is flying to Indonesia on a sketchy airline, where the medical care is next to useless, to race a complete garbage track like Pangkal Pinang just to pad Luongo's pockets. Say what you want about SX, I probably won't disagree, but fact is it is not nearly as big a joke as some of the shit that goes on in the GPs just so Luongo can make a buck, and probably never will be.
The SX style GP tracks are nothing like a SX track.
Most decent MX riders could race a GP track relatively safely. Ive raced a few GP tracks inc matterly & the jumps are well manageable.
Racing A1 would see the fast majority of racers in a ambulance. It's much more dangerous, the injury to track time ratio is far higher.
SX is a different sport.
Why do you think 90% of the euros want to race and succeed there ? More glory comes with american titles in the Mx industry !
I am not saying an MXGP title is junk but It’s not as prestigious as an AMA title even if you think right now the fastest rider in the world is Herlings because to be good in the US you have to excel at MX & SX.
It would be a fun season to watch Eli and Jeffery go at it all season long.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there's a difference between 'most prestigious' and 'most watched'
Which is why I disagree with people when they say that SX is the most prestigious title..
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The reason you have FIM as part of SX is to make it a World Championship and that is why the FIM will not leave because your guys want it to be classed a world championship. A World Championship is greater than a countries series it does not matter which series has the better riders.
I think a lot of you are getting confused, SX brings in the most money we all know that but that does not make it a better series than either MX series. Everyone starts riding because of motocross not supercross remember your roots.
Also here is how I compare MX and SX. MX is like 1500m running, SX is like 200m running, both are running but you train differently for both.
I respect an MXGP champion more then an SX champion. If I could of campaigned for either title & what I would liked to have told the grand kids, my choice would be world MXGP. It's not all about money & frankly it makes me sick how many of your place all your importance on money. Just think how many amazing experiences come from traveling the world, racing all the different nationalities in all the unusual countries. Yet all you care about is monster paid a bigger bonus because the stadium generated more income. Not what our sport is about.
Eli could wake up one morning & express a personal wish to shoot for a world mxgp title if he wished, a factory would of course make it happen if he really wanted it, he would be paid very well. Herlings would have real competition, the standard of the class would be pushed to a new level, in the industry could market this more & the sport would grow.
I honestly cant see how wanting to hold back elite talent in national series helps anyone.
If however i truly wanted to be known as the greatest (not sure how many really give a F about the other side though, it is a more of a fanboy thing) then i would jump the series at my peak and challenge myself.
So far no AMA racer has made the transition and managed a GP title or even close in any of the classes.
Going from GP to AMA has proved different.
the women this year have been off the charts and then the axe killer classes (125, 250, 300) are just scrappers all the time, the 120 deal is for A LOT of great racing
polled racers results are where?
I am not going to say one is better than the other, but it is child's play to call a World championship that races most of the globe on the hardest tracks known less prestigious.
SX is not MX, nothing to do with it.
I couldn't agree with you more, though.
SX : I've followed it since I saw that a 16(yr) old - Marty Tripes - had won one at the Superbowl.
I pay for the live streaming each year. I watch it.
US Nationals - the same time frame. I now pay for the stream, and watch them.
The Motocross World Championships : I've followed then since the 60s when I was a kid.
I've watched the GPs live for what might be a couple, or three, decades now.
It's The World Championships , that counts the most for Me. And, even the most shitty 'pop up' MXGP track , is a damned sight better a track than a vicious, tiny little track set down in a baseball or footy stadium. Even that utter piece of shite that RV won a GP on in Thailand......... well, maybe not......
I'm getting on a plane for Switzerland, then Italy, tomorrow morning, and, among business BS, I'm going to Imola for the GP. Goodness knows what sort of track it will be - the last MX GP they had there was in the mid 60s. But, it will be better track than a SX one - and I've been to plenty of US SXs over the last few decades.
its popularity is it a "blood sport" and it can be held at night in cities..
the actual racing is not better than mx racing.
whats this thread about??
One guys dosent make or break a series.
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