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DonM 8/8/2018 10:10am
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DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
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kb228 8/8/2018 10:16am
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gabrielito wrote:
We have always welcomed the best from around the world. MX shouldn't be any different. Is Marv a US citizen? I have no idea, but if...
We have always welcomed the best from around the world. MX shouldn't be any different. Is Marv a US citizen? I have no idea, but if he is the best way to welcome him would be to drape him in the stars and stripes.
RichardLoots wrote:
as patriotic as its suits you he ... Laughing Laughing lets make America great again , youre hilarious
gabrielito wrote:
So now you follow me around. Be careful I will verbally obliterate you again if you are not careful.
Oh god dont break your screen from trying to hard
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ga_pike 8/8/2018 10:16am
8/8/2018 10:16am
We are a nation of immigrants...
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RichardLoots 8/8/2018 10:38am
8/8/2018 10:38am
DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
DonM wrote:
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US...
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
for your info , Vlaanderen ( had a dutch passport all his life ) was racing under dutch license from the age of 12 when he started racing 85cc in the netherlands .and raced the youth 125cc worldchampionships for the netherlands in 2013 before moving up to EMX ... so him racing for the netherlands isnt weird at all , but very logical looking at his history
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DonM 8/8/2018 10:48am
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DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
DonM wrote:
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US...
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
RichardLoots wrote:
for your info , Vlaanderen ( had a dutch passport all his life ) was racing under dutch license from the age of 12 when he...
for your info , Vlaanderen ( had a dutch passport all his life ) was racing under dutch license from the age of 12 when he started racing 85cc in the netherlands .and raced the youth 125cc worldchampionships for the netherlands in 2013 before moving up to EMX ... so him racing for the netherlands isnt weird at all , but very logical looking at his history
But would have ridden for the SA team if they didn't treat him the way they did for sporting the SA flag without their permission...
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HusqFan3 8/8/2018 10:48am
8/8/2018 10:48am Edited Date/Time 8/8/2018 10:53am
MotoX85 wrote:
If Marvin is a US Citizen, he's no different than any other "legal" immigrant that came after the orientals that were here before the Indians. BUT...…..Barcia...
If Marvin is a US Citizen, he's no different than any other "legal" immigrant that came after the orientals that were here before the Indians.

BUT...…..Barcia should be offered the position as he has went for the US in the past and as always stepped up.

BUT (#2)..… If I was Marvin I'd tell France to go screw themselves and put a Peurto Rico or Virgin Islands team together. If he was going to take any spot on the US team it should be...……..wait for it...……….Tomac's spot who has chose not to represent his country for the last couple years stating that Monster has put too many race demands on his time. Must be nice to race dirt bikes for a living and train when not on your job. Most people do both every day, workout and go to work. Then lets not mention the 3 month vacation that no other workers get.
So you’re saying after monster cup Eli is just sitting on a beach sipping fruity cocktails right up until Anaheim 1? If so I have to say this makes all his SX wins that much more impressive...
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Racer111 8/8/2018 10:49am
8/8/2018 10:49am
DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
gabrielito wrote:
We have always welcomed the best from around the world. MX shouldn't be any different. Is Marv a US citizen? I have no idea, but if...
We have always welcomed the best from around the world. MX shouldn't be any different. Is Marv a US citizen? I have no idea, but if he is the best way to welcome him would be to drape him in the stars and stripes.
kb228 wrote:
Even tho he reps the french flag in every other race?
He does that so everyone knows which orange bike to boo.
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HusqFan3 8/8/2018 10:52am
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DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
DonM wrote:
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US...
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
Not taking sides but for the sake of accuracy, unless he renounced his French citizenship he’d be a French born, dual US/French citizen, riding for France.
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crockett 8/8/2018 10:54am
8/8/2018 10:54am
I don't think American fans could handle the backlash they would get from "needing a French rider to help the Americans win on home soil."
US citizen or not, Marvin is a French rider to most people. JB 51 is more than capable anyways
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dsmith 8/8/2018 11:04am
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Well, all day long at school I hear how great barcia is at this or how wonderful barcia did that! barcia, barcia, barcia!
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GuyB 8/8/2018 11:13am
8/8/2018 11:13am
In the words of many riders, yeah-no.
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DonM 8/8/2018 11:18am
8/8/2018 11:18am
DoubleA wrote:
Why do you need to use other countries riders? Your own not good enoughWhistling
DonM wrote:
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US...
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
HusqFan3 wrote:
Not taking sides but for the sake of accuracy, unless he renounced his French citizenship he’d be a French born, dual US/French citizen, riding for France.
Which is no different than a South African born dual South African/Dutch citizen Calvin Vlaanderen racing on the Dutch team....which was my point.
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RichardLoots 8/8/2018 11:19am
8/8/2018 11:19am
DonM wrote:
But would have ridden for the SA team if they didn't treat him the way they did for sporting the SA flag without their permission...
i dont know about that , as he never said anything about MXON .. his problem with South African federation was about the flag ..he raced under dutch license but used the SA flag as he is part South african and dutch . They didnt like it as he didnt ask them for permission and Calvin said .. screw them and started racing under dutch flag .. but if he had not done that, he still could have been a member of dutch MXON team ...
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RichardLoots 8/8/2018 11:22am
8/8/2018 11:22am
DonM wrote:
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US...
Why don't you ask that of the Dutch team....And FYI if Marv is a US citizen he's not another countries rider he would be a US citizen on the French team...
HusqFan3 wrote:
Not taking sides but for the sake of accuracy, unless he renounced his French citizenship he’d be a French born, dual US/French citizen, riding for France.
DonM wrote:
Which is no different than a South African born dual South African/Dutch citizen Calvin Vlaanderen racing on the Dutch team....which was my point.
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope
did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope
did Marvin had a dual passport all his life ? nope

so there are some differences Wink
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gabrielito 8/8/2018 11:27am
8/8/2018 11:27am Edited Date/Time 8/8/2018 11:28am
Are you still here? I thought I told you to go do some homework. Run along little boy.
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GuyB 8/8/2018 11:29am
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gabrielito wrote:
Are you still here? I thought I told you to go do some homework. Run along little boy.
If you and Richard are looking for a vacation from posting, you're going about it the right way.
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pbody 8/8/2018 11:30am
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Ummm, MXDN USA hero Jeff Ward is from Scotland. Dual citizenship if I understand correctly.
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daemon616 8/8/2018 11:33am
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Casually calling Orientals. I'm surprised you did go hard and call them celestials.
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loftyair 8/8/2018 11:40am
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His wife wearing USA flag colors was nice. He is more 'American' than those stupid Americans that burn the flag! Otherwise, I have no dog in this fight. If HE wanted to ride for USA, then who are we to say no? If he is now American, how can us Americans deny that?
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Squirrelings 8/8/2018 11:45am
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pbody wrote:
Ummm, MXDN USA hero Jeff Ward is from Scotland. Dual citizenship if I understand correctly.
That's a good point, but Wardy has been in the USA since he was 2 years old. I'd imagine he has no memory of life anywhere else.
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ramey23 8/8/2018 12:00pm
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pbody wrote:
Ummm, MXDN USA hero Jeff Ward is from Scotland. Dual citizenship if I understand correctly.
Squirrelings wrote:
That's a good point, but Wardy has been in the USA since he was 2 years old. I'd imagine he has no memory of life anywhere...
That's a good point, but Wardy has been in the USA since he was 2 years old. I'd imagine he has no memory of life anywhere else.
Great. So now we have narrowed this down to if a rider has no memory of life anywhere else.
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wreckitrandy 8/8/2018 12:02pm
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HusqFan3 wrote:
Not taking sides but for the sake of accuracy, unless he renounced his French citizenship he’d be a French born, dual US/French citizen, riding for France.
DonM wrote:
Which is no different than a South African born dual South African/Dutch citizen Calvin Vlaanderen racing on the Dutch team....which was my point.
RichardLoots wrote:
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope did Marvin had...
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope
did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope
did Marvin had a dual passport all his life ? nope

so there are some differences Wink
Did Liles have any of that when he raced for Luxembourg?
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DonM 8/8/2018 12:03pm
8/8/2018 12:03pm
HusqFan3 wrote:
Not taking sides but for the sake of accuracy, unless he renounced his French citizenship he’d be a French born, dual US/French citizen, riding for France.
DonM wrote:
Which is no different than a South African born dual South African/Dutch citizen Calvin Vlaanderen racing on the Dutch team....which was my point.
RichardLoots wrote:
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope did Marvin had...
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope
did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope
did Marvin had a dual passport all his life ? nope

so there are some differences Wink
Now we're getting technical....dual citizenship is duel citizenship...how long one has had it doesn't make them more or less of a citizen of either country....technically...Woohoo
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Squirrelings 8/8/2018 12:05pm
8/8/2018 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 8/8/2018 12:08pm
pbody wrote:
Ummm, MXDN USA hero Jeff Ward is from Scotland. Dual citizenship if I understand correctly.
Squirrelings wrote:
That's a good point, but Wardy has been in the USA since he was 2 years old. I'd imagine he has no memory of life anywhere...
That's a good point, but Wardy has been in the USA since he was 2 years old. I'd imagine he has no memory of life anywhere else.
ramey23 wrote:
Great. So now we have narrowed this down to if a rider has no memory of life anywhere else.
There's always that one guy who wants to be a smart-ass over a simple comment. Jeff Ward spent his entire life other than as an infant in the USA. There is a difference.

Either way, Marv's not on team USA and there is no chance he will be. End of story.
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DonM 8/8/2018 12:06pm
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DonM wrote:
Which is no different than a South African born dual South African/Dutch citizen Calvin Vlaanderen racing on the Dutch team....which was my point.
RichardLoots wrote:
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope did Marvin had...
does Marvin have a american dad or mum ? nope
did he race for america under US license in youth worldchampionship ? nope
did Marvin had a dual passport all his life ? nope

so there are some differences Wink
wreckitrandy wrote:
Did Liles have any of that when he raced for Luxembourg?
Nope just raced under a Luxembourg license...an fyi Covington doesn't race under an AMA license.
RichardLoots 8/8/2018 12:13pm
8/8/2018 12:13pm
DonM wrote:
Now we're getting technical....dual citizenship is duel citizenship...how long one has had it doesn't make them more or less of a citizen of either country....technically...Woohoo
haha yeah youre right ..dual is dual ... Laughing
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dboivin 8/8/2018 12:13pm
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i don't have issue....he is an american now.
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Flip109 8/8/2018 12:15pm
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I mean France doesn’t want him! I say we shove him up their ass lol
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chuckie108 8/8/2018 12:17pm
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The greatest Team USA racer of all time was born in Scotland, just saying. ;-)
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