Fox X Supreme

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5/8/2018 9:24am
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Supreme can do whatever they want. My beef is with Fox on this. Big beef. Big ol roast of beef. They're using that section of society...
Supreme can do whatever they want. My beef is with Fox on this. Big beef. Big ol roast of beef.

They're using that section of society - that is stealing OUR motorcycles from us and riding them through city streets like complete morons - to market this clothing. To me they're saying 'Hey dude-bro's were Fox and we think it's pretty lit if you steal that persons rad MX bike that they work their butts off to pay for and then ride said stolen bike like an asshole and terrorize people's neighbourhoods. Keep up the good work criminals! Look awesome while you do it!'

Gross. Shame on them. All for a dollar...
Very well said.
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5/8/2018 9:31am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2018 9:42am
Yeah, but it’s a [i]collaboration[/i] so it doesn’t matter who is handling the majority of how it’s marketed, Fox slapped their logo on it so they’re...
Yeah, but it’s a collaboration so it doesn’t matter who is handling the majority of how it’s marketed, Fox slapped their logo on it so they’re just as responsible for how their product is portrayed. You can’t tell me they didn’t sign off on this at some point in the process, or that’s crazy-poor quality control when you give another company free reign to market your brand however they want.
True, but half the people on here didn't even know what Supreme was. That doesn't seem like the right target market either. It feel like this is a niche product that you will probably never see anyone actually wearing. To take the stand that this is intended for minorities stealing you bikes and selling out is a very interesting way to look at it.
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5/8/2018 10:26am
I’d fck wit them grips doe
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5/8/2018 11:00am Edited Date/Time 5/8/2018 11:02am
In all seriousness, this collab may not be the best approach, but it IS growing our sport.

Who watches rap videos?
Who watches wheelie boy videos?
Who follows these dudes on Instagram and likes their posts?
Who wears supreme? (Outside of 30+y.o. dudes trying to stay relevant)
The youth.

Who are most influenced by the media?
Who tries new hobbies?
Who can convince their parents to go out and get them a new yz65?
The youth.

Supreme is an expensive street wear brand that is marketed towards young kids under 30. The same kids that wear supreme and “fck wit da wheelie boyz” are the same rich kids that can convince their parents, save up some cash to buy used, or take out their first loan to go out and buy a dirtbike.

Fashion trends involving a “cool” sport will always bring money into that market.

I remember when freestyle was the coolest thing. I was about 9 years old and got an 02 xr100 that I stickered the shit out of and rode in some camo cargo pants and a Metal Mulisha T-shirt thinking I was the shit. I would hit the same jump and berm over and over for hours.

Dirtbikes are becoming COOL again.

If that means having to deal with some little shit hopping on and off the track doing a corner and a jump like they’re SLAY while the rest of the track isn’t getting broken in on a practice day. So be it.
Maybe there will be another track opening up down the street.

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5/8/2018 11:25am
@snackfedbear I strongly believe that the kids with rich parents who do buy this - 95% of them will never swing a leg over a dirtbike. It’s just being able to “flex” on their Instagram that they over paid for some motocross pants they wear to the movie theatre. If I’m wrong..that’s great.
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5/8/2018 11:30am
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@snackfedbear I strongly believe that the kids with rich parents who do buy this - 95% of them will never swing a leg over a dirtbike...
@snackfedbear I strongly believe that the kids with rich parents who do buy this - 95% of them will never swing a leg over a dirtbike. It’s just being able to “flex” on their Instagram that they over paid for some motocross pants they wear to the movie theatre. If I’m wrong..that’s great.
You may just be right, but IMO it’s worh a shot.
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5/8/2018 11:59am
I have no problem with collaboration or outside brands but this is garbage. No artistic value to any of this. Fox has been ahead of innovation and style for awhile now and this is brainless "pump it out to the kids" design. Sad Sad Sad
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5/8/2018 12:01pm
Reed fan?
5/8/2018 12:10pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2018 12:11pm
Yeah, but it’s a [i]collaboration[/i] so it doesn’t matter who is handling the majority of how it’s marketed, Fox slapped their logo on it so they’re...
Yeah, but it’s a collaboration so it doesn’t matter who is handling the majority of how it’s marketed, Fox slapped their logo on it so they’re just as responsible for how their product is portrayed. You can’t tell me they didn’t sign off on this at some point in the process, or that’s crazy-poor quality control when you give another company free reign to market your brand however they want.
True, but half the people on here didn't even know what Supreme was. That doesn't seem like the right target market either. It feel like this...
True, but half the people on here didn't even know what Supreme was. That doesn't seem like the right target market either. It feel like this is a niche product that you will probably never see anyone actually wearing. To take the stand that this is intended for minorities stealing you bikes and selling out is a very interesting way to look at it.
My problem isn’t really about how the bike life dudes get their bikes, it’d be wrong to just assume that every bike from them is stolen.

I personally just think it’s not a wise move on Fox’s part; moto is already a pretty niche market, why risk your good-standing with your core demographic just to try to pick up an even smaller group of consumers that glorify illegal streetriding? It just doesn’t seem worth it to me, from a business standpoint.
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5/8/2018 12:32pm
Never ending bitching on this forum about how privateers and anyone outside of the top 10 makes no money.

Never ending bitching on this forum that we attract no outside sponsors.

Never ending bitching on this forum when any "MX" company "makes it big" and reaches out to a non-moto company to expand their customer base. Then calls them sellouts.

I'd like to live in this fantasy world where the employees (Professional MX athletes in this example) make tons of money and the employer (the general MX industry in this example) does whatever they can to not expand their customer base beyond the tiny MX community. In other words, cap their potential cash flow to MX only customers.

Keep it core bro! Everyone will get rich! Not!
5/8/2018 12:35pm
Just another Vision Street Wear. It will be out of the spotlight within a few years.
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5/8/2018 12:36pm
I just asked both of my kids if they know what Supreme is. They both said yes and that it is "really expensive clothes that kids wear while trying way too hard to be relevant". For the record they are 12 and 13. I then told them about this Fox deal. My daughter just rolled her eyes and said "that's stupid". My son said, "that is just dumb".
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5/8/2018 1:58pm Edited Date/Time 5/8/2018 2:00pm
I'm a sneaker head but this is some of the collabs he's done and the prices.
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5/8/2018 2:19pm
Rab wrote:
Lots of narrow minded people on here Laughing
EZZA 95B wrote:
Yeah, nah, fully... " Race in style"! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/05/08/259774/s1200_Screen_Shot_2018_05_08_at_5.22.45_pm.jpg[/img]
Yeah, nah, fully... " Race in style"!

Rab wrote:
I can tell by your bitter response that you would be one of them. I don’t own any supreme stuff but I could definitely see it...
I can tell by your bitter response that you would be one of them. I don’t own any supreme stuff but I could definitely see it attract a lot of the younger crowd. Im not much of a fan but hey, whatever works.
who you calling "them", bro?
5/8/2018 2:48pm
MY CULTURE IS NOT YOUR EXCLUSIVE COLLAB! #stopappropriatingmoto #dirtbikesmatter
5/8/2018 3:16pm
gt80rider wrote:
Btw... Fox is really going the wrong way on marketing with this one... wheelie boys have zero money, so they won't be buying it.... and us...
Btw... Fox is really going the wrong way on marketing with this one... wheelie boys have zero money, so they won't be buying it.... and us old farts with the cash, we aren't gonna think real highly of promoting a high-end line by using wheelie boys....

Double Sigh....
Last I checked the drug business was boomin
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5/8/2018 5:01pm
Last I checked the drug business was boomin
I dare anyone to argue with Pablo on this!! ^^^
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5/9/2018 1:07am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2018 1:12am
Interesting... Consumers make or break businesses/brands. Fox may be alienating a lot of their core base here, that is if they even see this collab/social media. I for one will not support a brand tied to that community. Maybe some industry people in here can point out these feelings and opinions of their base to Fox.
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5/9/2018 1:09am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2018 1:09am
MY CULTURE IS NOT YOUR EXCLUSIVE COLLAB! #stopappropriatingmoto #dirtbikesmatter
Lmao
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5/9/2018 1:44am Edited Date/Time 5/9/2018 1:46am
I could see Deano rockin this stuff.

I think it’s an interesting collab. I remember Supreme from my old skating days back in the late 90s early 2000s. It’s cool to see how extremely popular that little skateboard company is now.

As for the wheelie boyz thing I get it. Being a “rebel” and a “gangster” has always been cool in pop culture. From all the old mob movies and gangta rap to the Wheelie Boyz today. There’s a reason why they were picked to market this stuff and not Mr. Wheaties Box himself.
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5/9/2018 3:45am
Boy this thread got heavily edited......
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5/9/2018 8:05am
Premix wrote:
Boy this thread got heavily edited......
Okay, and...? I should allow free range Stupidity?
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5/9/2018 8:18am
GuyB wrote:
Okay, and...? I should allow free range Stupidity?
Free Range Stupidy might be a bit much...I surely don’t need to explain to you the concept of an open forum but it seems as if the past couple of years, the agenda on here seems to take precedent oven having an open dialogue. It’s your playground, do as you see fit, it’s just a shame that we can’t share an opinion or even a picture that is already out there on social media to inform others.

Much like Pete Fox’s IG post regarding the supreme product, I’m sure this thread will disappear too.
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5/9/2018 8:28am
Premix wrote:
Free Range Stupidy might be a bit much...I surely don’t need to explain to you the concept of an open forum but it seems as if...
Free Range Stupidy might be a bit much...I surely don’t need to explain to you the concept of an open forum but it seems as if the past couple of years, the agenda on here seems to take precedent oven having an open dialogue. It’s your playground, do as you see fit, it’s just a shame that we can’t share an opinion or even a picture that is already out there on social media to inform others.

Much like Pete Fox’s IG post regarding the supreme product, I’m sure this thread will disappear too.
Disappear? It depends on which way this goes, and if people can play nice.

I edit stuff all the time, especially things involving politics or topics that involve race. If you have a problem with that, I’m pretty sure you could find a forum that suits your tastes.
5/9/2018 9:39am
I think Supreme is neat. I can’t afford their stuff.

But BIG UPS to Fox on putting this deal together and trying to reach outside of the powersports market and are you ready for this...turning non enthusiasts into enthusiasts.

Old folks won’t get it, no matter how many times we explain what Supreme is.
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5/9/2018 9:50am
Fox is doing a collaboration with a brand that has a voice?

How dare they.
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5/9/2018 10:13am
Fox is doing a collaboration with a brand that has a voice?

How dare they.
I don't think it's the collaboration with another brand that has people (myself included) upset with them. If done right it can be a good thing. And I don't think anyone here is against spreading the love for MX and dirt bikes. I think that people are mad about the fact that Fox is using street thugs to market said collaboration.
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5/9/2018 10:21am
X2. I don’t dislike Supreme, just wish they used an actual MX/SX rider.
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5/9/2018 10:27am
MB109 wrote:
X2. I don’t dislike Supreme, just wish they used an actual MX/SX rider.
Fox has sponsored millions of MX/SX riders and done a shit ton for this sport.

Aside from recognizing this could be a great market for them to tap into, perhaps it's a chance for them to promote / help mold the positive people & aspects of this niche into something more respectful.

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