What if Aldon.....

BobPA wrote:

Alessi had a ton of Amateur titles, how the fuck does that matter? No out outside of your moms basement gives a shit about the British...

Alessi had a ton of Amateur titles, how the fuck does that matter? No out outside of your moms basement gives a shit about the British MX championships....

F150Motocrosser wrote:

Are you high? Not every rider has it in them to be an elite, top of the sport champion. However, a select few do have that...

Are you high? Not every rider has it in them to be an elite, top of the sport champion. However, a select few do have that potential - that's where Aldon comes in, taking riders who have that potential, and unlocking it.

Zach Osborne overall SX/MX results:
2014 SX West - 8th
2014 MX - 22nd
2015 SX West - 3rd
2015 MX - 4th
2016 SX East - 4th
2016 MX - 7th

(starts with Aldon in late 2016)

2017 SX East - 1st
2017 MX - 1st
2018 SX West so far - 1st

King KTM wrote:

This is an interesting statistic. I would like to see something similar on the other riders he trains or has trained.

mb wrote:

Assuming that nobody that rides could be good at anything else, while assuming that LeBron would be good at everything else... No sport is natural, takes...

Assuming that nobody that rides could be good at anything else, while assuming that LeBron would be good at everything else...

No sport is natural, takes practice. Benny Bloss could play basketball all day long with practice. Weston Peick would probably be an excellent wrestler, with practice. Just about anyone could play baseball, golf, etc with practice. The same way LeBron could ride a motorcycle fast if given the chance to practice. Assuming what a person could or could not do based on their profession is simply not an accurate representation of the individual.

Much easier to get good at stick and ball sports than it is to get fast on a dirt scooter.

TeamGreen wrote:

Count the championships and race wins and get back to us.

Racer111 wrote:

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon. If he’s THAT...

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon.

If he’s THAT good, let’s see him take a privateer that that runs 12-15th every weekend and hasn’t won a title yet. If this guy starts getting on the podium and winning, then I’ll give Aldon credit. Until then, he’s just a cherry picker. True Story!

TheOriginalPancakee wrote:

I’d love for him to take a privateer that’s mid Pack. Or even a guy like Weston to really see what Aldon is capable. Because it...

I’d love for him to take a privateer that’s mid
Pack. Or even a guy like Weston to really see what Aldon is capable. Because it is a fact that 95% if his riders were champions before and would’ve been champs without him.

Racer111 wrote:

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon. If he’s THAT...

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon.

If he’s THAT good, let’s see him take a privateer that that runs 12-15th every weekend and hasn’t won a title yet. If this guy starts getting on the podium and winning, then I’ll give Aldon credit. Until then, he’s just a cherry picker. True Story!

LumpDog841 wrote:

Like Osborne? Is that good enough?

crusty_xx wrote:

Osborne has been good before. He had national and GP wins before. Hardly a 12-15th place privateer turned into a champ...

brimx153 wrote:

Aldon get s way way to much credit

TeamGreen wrote:

Count the championships and race wins and get back to us.

Squirrelings wrote:

Zero. Aldon has never won a race or championship. Doesn't even ride.

F150Motocrosser wrote:

Are you high? Not every rider has it in them to be an elite, top of the sport champion. However, a select few do have that...

Are you high? Not every rider has it in them to be an elite, top of the sport champion. However, a select few do have that potential - that's where Aldon comes in, taking riders who have that potential, and unlocking it.

Zach Osborne overall SX/MX results:
2014 SX West - 8th
2014 MX - 22nd
2015 SX West - 3rd
2015 MX - 4th
2016 SX East - 4th
2016 MX - 7th

(starts with Aldon in late 2016)

2017 SX East - 1st
2017 MX - 1st
2018 SX West so far - 1st

TeamGreen wrote:

There it is.

Asimo wrote:

Why are you discounting his British motocross championship and all his amateur titles?

Because those were before long prior.

TeamGreen wrote:

There it is.

Asimo wrote:

Why are you discounting his British motocross championship and all his amateur titles?

Because those were before long prior.

brimx153 wrote:

In 2016 Zack went 3rd 6th 2nd 5th Dnf 5th 3rd 2nd 2nd Finished 4th , only 26 point s behind Webb even tho he had...

In 2016 Zack went
3rd
6th
2nd
5th
Dnf
5th
3rd
2nd
2nd

Finished 4th , only 26 point s behind Webb even tho he had a Dnf.
In 17 Webb was gone .
To me even before Zack was with Aldon he was a top rider. Him and savatgy were favourites for 17 .he did improve in 17 that s for certain . But how many time have we seen a guy get a win and just start rolling ( without aldon) . I credit Zack himself for his improvement .I credit Aldon for getting him fit .But that s it !!!!! People are acting like Zack was a mid pack rider . It's not true. People are acting like Aldon taught him how to ride a bike faster .also not true . What I find funny is I bet Aldon himself would nt say making a guy faster is even his job . But yet vital hails him as the main reason behind these s guys successs . That just bull imo.

mb wrote:

Assuming that nobody that rides could be good at anything else, while assuming that LeBron would be good at everything else... No sport is natural, takes...

Assuming that nobody that rides could be good at anything else, while assuming that LeBron would be good at everything else...

No sport is natural, takes practice. Benny Bloss could play basketball all day long with practice. Weston Peick would probably be an excellent wrestler, with practice. Just about anyone could play baseball, golf, etc with practice. The same way LeBron could ride a motorcycle fast if given the chance to practice. Assuming what a person could or could not do based on their profession is simply not an accurate representation of the individual.

Much easier to get good at stick and ball sports than it is to get fast on a dirt scooter.

cbuehler767 wrote:

Much easier to get at stick and ball sports? Ya ok. 90% of the dudes I grew up riding with were pitiful at every sport but...

Much easier to get at stick and ball sports? Ya ok. 90% of the dudes I grew up riding with were pitiful at every sport but motocross

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

greenmx5 wrote:

Aldon takes great riders and makes their diet greater. Think about it. He's current training broc tickle. What has he done? Rv and rc both were...

Aldon takes great riders and makes their diet greater. Think about it. He's current training broc tickle. What has he done? Rv and rc both were chubby red heads and had potential. Then Aldon comes in and makes their diets good. You aren't gonna perform for shit if what you put into your body isn't right.

UpTiTe wrote:

Ryan and RC were a bit more than some chubby red heads with potential, they were both multi time champs before they met Aldon. I dare...

Ryan and RC were a bit more than some chubby red heads with potential, they were both multi time champs before they met Aldon.

I dare you to find a "chubby" picture of RC or Ryan in their 125 days.

greenmx5 wrote:

Aldon takes great riders and makes their diet greater. Think about it. He's current training broc tickle. What has he done? Rv and rc both were...

Aldon takes great riders and makes their diet greater. Think about it. He's current training broc tickle. What has he done? Rv and rc both were chubby red heads and had potential. Then Aldon comes in and makes their diets good. You aren't gonna perform for shit if what you put into your body isn't right.

UpTiTe wrote:

Ryan and RC were a bit more than some chubby red heads with potential, they were both multi time champs before they met Aldon. I dare...

Ryan and RC were a bit more than some chubby red heads with potential, they were both multi time champs before they met Aldon.

I dare you to find a "chubby" picture of RC or Ryan in their 125 days.

PClaerhout wrote:

There was a substantial difference in RV pre and post Aldon.

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

DonM wrote:

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before...

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before a troll any day...

DonM wrote:

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before...

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before a troll any day...

Squirrelings wrote:

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this...

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this world.

DonM wrote:

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before...

There is a long list of riders that feel that they couldn't have won as much or as many championships without him...I'll go with them before a troll any day...

Squirrelings wrote:

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this...

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this world.

DonM wrote:

Right....but none that even come close to what he has done...him riding or not has nothing to do with what he does...

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

TXDirt wrote:

Think about this for a second.... Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does...

Think about this for a second....

Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does. Can he provide a semblance of knowing what he is doing on an NBA court? Can he at all resemble let’s say 25% of Mathew Dilladevoa?

Maybe.. let’s just assume that for now he could. Delladevo is no physical specimen. He’s gritty and can play ball.

If you put Kevin Love on a motorcycle for 9 months for 10 hours a day, will he at all resemble 25% of Let’s say Pieck?

Absolutely fucking no chance.

Will he resemble even last place rider to even make the night show?

Absolutely not.

Too many folks hold these stick and ball sports people on some kind of pedestal.

You know how the AMA has lappers?? So does every sport. Only difference is the others sports pay lappers better.

Don’t think for a second that because someone is in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, that automatically makes them more athletic or better athletes then our MX racers.

That’s not true at all.

Steiny wrote:

If Tomac trained 10 hours a day for 9 months, he may be able to make the varsity squad at a small high school. some how...

If Tomac trained 10 hours a day for 9 months, he may be able to make the varsity squad at a small high school.

some how after just 9 months of training, a 5 foot 9 Tomac will suddenly be better than kid who have been training for years.

yz763 wrote:

There is. I was in a bar drinking a beer and LeBron was on the tube. I thought to myself...look at this cocky bastard. He thinks...

There is. I was in a bar drinking a beer and LeBron was on the tube. I thought to myself...look at this cocky bastard. He thinks he’s better than MJ by doing less. Then I thought about MX and SX and how those dudes are way better atheletes. Then I thought about the disparity in the paycheck and savings account between MX and SX stars vs. NBA All Stars that would be in full blown cardiac arrest if they had to ride a Pro National.
Then I wonder if there is an opportunity for Aldon to tell MX and SX, “fuck off....I’m going main stream”.

UpTiTe wrote:

You're a fool if you think any motocrosser is a better athlete than LeBron James. No motocrosser in history is even in the same realm of...

You're a fool if you think any motocrosser is a better athlete than LeBron James. No motocrosser in history is even in the same realm of athleticism of LeBron James.

They have strict testing in the NBA, so Aldons methods wouldn't work.

9grains wrote:

Without evidence your statement is a waste of everyone's time.

Squirrelings wrote:

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this...

What are rambling about? I answered a simple question. He has zero wins or championships. He's probably a good trainer. There's lots of them in this world.

DonM wrote:

Right....but none that even come close to what he has done...him riding or not has nothing to do with what he does...

Asimo wrote:

Why isnt he working a miracle with Tickle?

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

TXDirt wrote:

Think about this for a second.... Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does...

Think about this for a second....

Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does. Can he provide a semblance of knowing what he is doing on an NBA court? Can he at all resemble let’s say 25% of Mathew Dilladevoa?

Maybe.. let’s just assume that for now he could. Delladevo is no physical specimen. He’s gritty and can play ball.

If you put Kevin Love on a motorcycle for 9 months for 10 hours a day, will he at all resemble 25% of Let’s say Pieck?

Absolutely fucking no chance.

Will he resemble even last place rider to even make the night show?

Absolutely not.

Too many folks hold these stick and ball sports people on some kind of pedestal.

You know how the AMA has lappers?? So does every sport. Only difference is the others sports pay lappers better.

Don’t think for a second that because someone is in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, that automatically makes them more athletic or better athletes then our MX racers.

That’s not true at all.

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

TXDirt wrote:

Think about this for a second.... Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does...

Think about this for a second....

Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does. Can he provide a semblance of knowing what he is doing on an NBA court? Can he at all resemble let’s say 25% of Mathew Dilladevoa?

Maybe.. let’s just assume that for now he could. Delladevo is no physical specimen. He’s gritty and can play ball.

If you put Kevin Love on a motorcycle for 9 months for 10 hours a day, will he at all resemble 25% of Let’s say Pieck?

Absolutely fucking no chance.

Will he resemble even last place rider to even make the night show?

Absolutely not.

Too many folks hold these stick and ball sports people on some kind of pedestal.

You know how the AMA has lappers?? So does every sport. Only difference is the others sports pay lappers better.

Don’t think for a second that because someone is in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, that automatically makes them more athletic or better athletes then our MX racers.

That’s not true at all.

mxb2 wrote:

Tomac training for hoops 9 months cdnt make a div 3 college team. Nba team..thats funny

Racer111 wrote:

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon. If he’s THAT...

That’s easy to say when he takes on the RC’s, RV’s, RD’s, JS7, etc..... ALL these guys won Championships BEFORE they hired Aldon.

If he’s THAT good, let’s see him take a privateer that that runs 12-15th every weekend and hasn’t won a title yet. If this guy starts getting on the podium and winning, then I’ll give Aldon credit. Until then, he’s just a cherry picker. True Story!

TheOriginalPancakee wrote:

I’d love for him to take a privateer that’s mid Pack. Or even a guy like Weston to really see what Aldon is capable. Because it...

I’d love for him to take a privateer that’s mid
Pack. Or even a guy like Weston to really see what Aldon is capable. Because it is a fact that 95% if his riders were champions before and would’ve been champs without him.

Racer111 wrote:

Don’t tell Jeffro or TeamGreen that. He and the other “know it all’s” will get their feelings hurt.

Steiny wrote:

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness...

Would LeBron be a better player if Aldon trained him is a laughable question. I would guess that the guy who is college educated in fitness and kinesiology and that has been training Basketball players since 2001 probably knows a bit more than some ex 10 speed racer. It cracks me up when guys who dont know much outside of MX think Aldon is this great savior, hes not, he is a guy who got a break from Johnny O.

If Johnny had introduced me to RC and said, "hey, this guy has trained BMX kids and knows how to train", Youd all be yelling, STEINY IS THE GREATEST EVER.

LeBron will never be a pro on a motorcycle, and no amount of practice will get him there.

Ryan Dungey will never, nor could he have ever been in the NBA, and no amount of training would have got him there.

Are MXers athletes? Absolutely they are, but so a curlers, bowlers and golfers.

I would bet that if a young NFL player took mx seriously for a few years, he could possibly be a local pro, but there is no way on Gods green earth that any professional rider will ever be in the NFL or any minor league football team.


Top MXers are tremendous endurance athletes, but lack the physical skills to be pro stick and ball sports.

TXDirt wrote:

Think about this for a second.... Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does...

Think about this for a second....

Let’s assume right now Tomac has 9 months to train 10 hours a day at basketball. That’s all he does. Can he provide a semblance of knowing what he is doing on an NBA court? Can he at all resemble let’s say 25% of Mathew Dilladevoa?

Maybe.. let’s just assume that for now he could. Delladevo is no physical specimen. He’s gritty and can play ball.

If you put Kevin Love on a motorcycle for 9 months for 10 hours a day, will he at all resemble 25% of Let’s say Pieck?

Absolutely fucking no chance.

Will he resemble even last place rider to even make the night show?

Absolutely not.

Too many folks hold these stick and ball sports people on some kind of pedestal.

You know how the AMA has lappers?? So does every sport. Only difference is the others sports pay lappers better.

Don’t think for a second that because someone is in the NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL, that automatically makes them more athletic or better athletes then our MX racers.

That’s not true at all.

cbuehler767 wrote:

You're out of your effing mind if you think Tomac could spend 8months practicing basketball and step on an NBA court. He couldn't get a wiff...

You're out of your effing mind if you think Tomac could spend 8months practicing basketball and step on an NBA court. He couldn't get a wiff of a Div 2 team.

DonM wrote:

Right....but none that even come close to what he has done...him riding or not has nothing to do with what he does...