Kick a** two strokes!

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r18b wrote:
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit...
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit platinum 2 cost here 295 euro.
MCFLY is a titanium and cost around 350 euro if i'm right. Asked them if they wanna build me a pipe but they make them only for the 125 yz-tc-sx

Only overpriced cone pipes are the scalvani pipes.
439,20 euro scalvani against 225 euro DPR (cr250)
305,- euro scalvani against 225 DPR (cr85)
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone pipe.
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2/8/2018 9:16am
r18b wrote:
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit...
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit platinum 2 cost here 295 euro.
MCFLY is a titanium and cost around 350 euro if i'm right. Asked them if they wanna build me a pipe but they make them only for the 125 yz-tc-sx

Only overpriced cone pipes are the scalvani pipes.
439,20 euro scalvani against 225 euro DPR (cr250)
305,- euro scalvani against 225 DPR (cr85)
ML512 wrote:
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone...
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone pipe.
lol yeah right, keep dreaming on that fun fact.
Why are the guy's over here performing better with a cone pipe on there engine then with a standard pipe. Motorcross-scooter dragraces-karts -motor gp race bikes-old vintage race bikes
Have you ever sa the build of DPR or scalvani or STE or PPS?( i had them all) Those are outside and inside a piece of art..DPR-STE-PPS They build the pipe what you need.
Not a overall power what bill -pro circuit,-fmf-hgs gives.

Fun fact on a 4 stroke.. HGS the standard 4 stroke pipe what every one can buy is coming to short on a mx gp engine. The builder here asked HGS to build them a better pipe. then we are talking about imperfection of a pipe.. Those mx gp engines are not even fully tuned. Just standard with some upgrades what every one can do.

here some imperfection handbuilds from STE.. where are the builds from fmf-pro circuit-bills etc on these engines? Ow wait they can't do it. lol














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2/8/2018 10:00am
r18b wrote:
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit...
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit platinum 2 cost here 295 euro.
MCFLY is a titanium and cost around 350 euro if i'm right. Asked them if they wanna build me a pipe but they make them only for the 125 yz-tc-sx

Only overpriced cone pipes are the scalvani pipes.
439,20 euro scalvani against 225 euro DPR (cr250)
305,- euro scalvani against 225 DPR (cr85)
ML512 wrote:
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone...
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone pipe.
yep in fact i think Bills pipes sells these kind of pipes

for best power at high speeds everything needs to be smooth, hence why porting and POLISHING the intake and exhaust are important. same thing with the intake tracts and the exhaust pipe. if you have a pipe with a lot of sharp angles airflow will be compromised.
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2/8/2018 11:44am
r18b wrote:
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit...
if ya can pay 125$ for weldings then you can afford a cone pipe. The first pic made by DPR cost 225 euro, a pro circuit platinum 2 cost here 295 euro.
MCFLY is a titanium and cost around 350 euro if i'm right. Asked them if they wanna build me a pipe but they make them only for the 125 yz-tc-sx

Only overpriced cone pipes are the scalvani pipes.
439,20 euro scalvani against 225 euro DPR (cr250)
305,- euro scalvani against 225 DPR (cr85)
ML512 wrote:
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone...
Fun fact, a "fake" cone pipe will perform better than a real cone pipe...as it's smooth inside and doesn't have the imperfections of a real cone pipe.
yep in fact i think Bills pipes sells these kind of pipes for best power at high speeds everything needs to be smooth, hence why porting...
yep in fact i think Bills pipes sells these kind of pipes

for best power at high speeds everything needs to be smooth, hence why porting and POLISHING the intake and exhaust are important. same thing with the intake tracts and the exhaust pipe. if you have a pipe with a lot of sharp angles airflow will be compromised.
Sir.. no thinking please, i want to see it.

Sharp angles?? there are no sharp angles. Power at high speed?? are you riding a dirtbike on the highway?? Only there you will get high speed. On a kart you will get high speed but the pipe is made to give the power in the best rpm range what the cylinder is performence is.. I have a 70cc scooter pipe what i have handbuild for a 16k rpm cylinder range coz no other pipe brand could bring that kinda rpm range for the 70cc cylinder.

So why do you think there are cone pipe builders.. Just becoz the average joe pipe brings average joe power to a cylinder. The handbuild brings the power what that cylinder need. it's calculated for the cylinder. No bill or pro circuit will do that. They are allround pipes for every cylinder the same. Not talking about high speed we are talking about 2stroke pipes for a dirtbike.

So we have made our points lol Now i'm gonna enjoy my ride in the weekend.

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2017 ktm sx 150[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242759/s1200_E601FABD_E658_4209_8773_6E39B78E1AA0.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242760/s1200_63229C1C_2C01_4188_AD3D_AF5327857F25.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242761/s1200_A801A78C_701E_4D1E_B969_581EAE3BCC79.jpg[/img]
2017 ktm sx 150





Nice looking retro bike !! What rim and color if you don't mind ?
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An 02 CR250r frame, 08 CRF450r Showa suspension & a 90 CR500r engine. Fun bike owned & ridden ! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242663/s1200_02CR500_Pic_1.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242664/s1200_02CR500_Pic_2.jpg[/img]
An 02 CR250r frame, 08 CRF450r Showa suspension & a 90 CR500r engine. Fun bike owned & ridden !







That's a beast H4L !!
2/8/2018 4:46pm Edited Date/Time 2/8/2018 4:49pm
r18b wrote:
Sir.. no thinking please, i want to see it. Sharp angles?? there are no sharp angles. Power at high speed?? are you riding a dirtbike on...
Sir.. no thinking please, i want to see it.

Sharp angles?? there are no sharp angles. Power at high speed?? are you riding a dirtbike on the highway?? Only there you will get high speed. On a kart you will get high speed but the pipe is made to give the power in the best rpm range what the cylinder is performence is.. I have a 70cc scooter pipe what i have handbuild for a 16k rpm cylinder range coz no other pipe brand could bring that kinda rpm range for the 70cc cylinder.

So why do you think there are cone pipe builders.. Just becoz the average joe pipe brings average joe power to a cylinder. The handbuild brings the power what that cylinder need. it's calculated for the cylinder. No bill or pro circuit will do that. They are allround pipes for every cylinder the same. Not talking about high speed we are talking about 2stroke pipes for a dirtbike.

So we have made our points lol Now i'm gonna enjoy my ride in the weekend.
Sheesh you’re obnoxious. Can we vote you off this thread? Just shut up and admire the good looking 2 stroke art.
2/8/2018 6:08pm
r18b wrote:
Sir.. no thinking please, i want to see it. Sharp angles?? there are no sharp angles. Power at high speed?? are you riding a dirtbike on...
Sir.. no thinking please, i want to see it.

Sharp angles?? there are no sharp angles. Power at high speed?? are you riding a dirtbike on the highway?? Only there you will get high speed. On a kart you will get high speed but the pipe is made to give the power in the best rpm range what the cylinder is performence is.. I have a 70cc scooter pipe what i have handbuild for a 16k rpm cylinder range coz no other pipe brand could bring that kinda rpm range for the 70cc cylinder.

So why do you think there are cone pipe builders.. Just becoz the average joe pipe brings average joe power to a cylinder. The handbuild brings the power what that cylinder need. it's calculated for the cylinder. No bill or pro circuit will do that. They are allround pipes for every cylinder the same. Not talking about high speed we are talking about 2stroke pipes for a dirtbike.

So we have made our points lol Now i'm gonna enjoy my ride in the weekend.
Jmicmoto13 wrote:
Sheesh you’re obnoxious. Can we vote you off this thread? Just shut up and admire the good looking 2 stroke art.
Don't feed the gimmicks Jmicmoto13, it only encourages them to stay around.
2/8/2018 6:28pm
Don't feed the gimmicks Jmicmoto13, it only encourages them to stay around.
You’re right. Can’t stand a know it all though.
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Anybody with a TIG welder can make bare metal pipe look like a cone pipe.
2/8/2018 11:43pm
2017 ktm sx 150[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242759/s1200_E601FABD_E658_4209_8773_6E39B78E1AA0.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242760/s1200_63229C1C_2C01_4188_AD3D_AF5327857F25.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2018/02/08/242761/s1200_A801A78C_701E_4D1E_B969_581EAE3BCC79.jpg[/img]
2017 ktm sx 150





ledger wrote:
Nice looking retro bike !! What rim and color if you don't mind ?
Excel rims in orange with blue talon hubs
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1990 on the line vrp racing with 2017 xtrig triple clamps with custom steering tube and bearings with Akit ssv forks and 2017 plastic..district7 ruler mike crockers bike








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some photos
Thats before the new forks and clamps


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2/11/2018 12:23am Edited Date/Time 2/11/2018 8:47am
That's trick! I remember on the line racing offering honda cr carbon fibre disc rotors for sale (amongst all the other stuff) in 1990 but i don't think they sold any......think i still have an old mxa magazine with the advert in it up in the loft.that mugen showa shock is droolworthy too...
2/11/2018 9:48pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2018 9:51pm
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Fackin Lovee this Page! lol
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That thing is wicked!
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Almost a million freak'n views to this thread and the manufacturers STILL don't get it...
2/14/2018 6:13pm
gt80rider wrote:
Almost a million freak'n views to this thread and the manufacturers STILL don't get it...
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gt80rider wrote:
Almost a million freak'n views to this thread and the manufacturers STILL don't get it...
Well not entirely accurate. Yamaha has come around some with the release of the new YZ 65 and new YZ 85 come 2019. That said it's not like they stopped producing them so for the most part I agree.

#JapanIsClueless

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