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But hey I'm still writing to strokes so I necessarily don't have a leg to stand on here actually scratch that I started writing for strokes and went back to the two-stroke because of its simplicity fun and retains my love for riding nothing against four stroke riders but I think I'm off the train on this stuff LOL
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Sorry, couldn’t resist. Just thought it was funny!
same thing .
Frenchie comes on here with a fairly detailed list of issues as well as a few solutions and gets called a troll. Seems to me he backed up most of his stuff unlike the other thousand trolls who have come before.
http://m.vitalmx.com/forums/Race-Shop,42/2015-YZ250F-PROBLEMS,1285291?p…
http://m.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/15-16-Yamaha-frame-cracks,1…
I have a 15 250f and a 16 450 so far the issues weve had:
- (250) Fuel Injector seal crushed from factory, Ruined motor within 8 hours. Huge fight with Yamaha, finally got fixed after a lot of time/money wasted. Ruined my view of the company and the Rock River team.
- (250) Blown out schrader valve at 25 hours in rear shock (kyb not yz)
- (450) Cracked frame. Yet another month in the summer fighting with Yamaha... not being able to ride the bike.. just like my 250 the summer before
- (450) Manufactoring casting flaw that blew the rear shock seals. (Not yz but kyb)
I rather not get into the preventive headaches you have to do with these bikes... all I can say is the electronics are straight out of the 70s, make sure you water proof the wiring harness. (Remember Martins bike probs in 15? This is why they wouldn’t wash his bike in between motos)
All the brands have their issues, and after so many good bikes, one lemon/flaw is bound to make its way on the market, unlucky for me, and by the sounds of it this guy as well, we got those bikes (I did twice). It sucks, when you buy a bike now that are pushing 5 digits in price, you dont expect flaws, nor can you afford one.
However, what matters is the brands willingness to see problems and react in a ethical way to make it right. My experience with Yamaha was complete shit, and their midwest connection (Rock River) was even worse. Its why I’m looking at a ktm for next year and not the new yami.
I really dont find jokes about this to very funny. The dude spent a lot of money for a brand new race bike expecting for it to be the quality to be just that, and as long as general/common maintence is taking place, you should expect no less.
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I ride, A LOT.
I maintain and work on my scoots A LOT... Well, for the most part...
I don't have the kind of problems that I often read about up in h'yar. On the it her hand, I'll toss most stock parts in the trash that're known to be a problem. I take changing oil and air filters pretty damn seriously (a lesson YOU WILL LEARN the "hard way" in Baja when you don't do it right). I maintain batteries and things that a lot of people take for granted. I have my frames inspected by people that know what to look for. I check my valves, my clutch, my spokes and...PEEELOUT WARNING: I check my Damn SPROCKET BOLTS, Bro!
Most importantly...
I use mechanics and tuners that do amazing work.
So, no...I can't identify with any of this.
Btw, I've been a part of a team that has "run and won" with Yamahas for the last 3 years.
Normally get a bike, go through it, grease everything, torque checks, very strict oil changes/filters, air filter every ride... you name it. I regularly check over my bike every ride. Why would you assume other wise? Ive seen people who treat there bikes like shit and never have issues, or they will but its not until later on from general abuse.
When I pay 10 grand almost for a new 450, Im not expecting to take it to a mechanic to inspect the frame/welds, the electrical wiring, or all the seals on the bike, and im sure as hell not letting a dealership work on it (I worked in one in highschool, you wouldn’t believe the general mechanics/techs lack of care/knowledge for race bikes). That should all be done when I buy the final product, and if its not and the bike/parts fails outside the bounds of allowable time/circumstances, then I expect the manufacture to own up.
Im glad you’ve never had to go through the headache of a manufacture error/flaw. Speaking solely about my experience with Yamaha, it is the biggest headache, and you’ll paying for a broken bike for months before it gets settled. Just because youve never had a lemon, doesnt mean they don’t happen. Dont be that guy that assumes its never the manufactor and always the lack of maintenance because YOU’VE never had an issue.
Here are photos of my frame crack, and my injector seal that was incorrectly installed. No amount of maintenance would of fixed this. This was poor assembly and poor quality check on that weld. (Frame cracked under 20 hours)
Guy comes in here and posts legitimate technical questions about a new motocross bike and you children start fucking with him.
sure, the Race Shop would be the better place to post a tech question, but why give this guy so much bullshit?
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