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Samuel 10/28/2017 6:59pm
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I have never heard of any kickstand related injury. I don't understand the mentality that a kickstand is perfectly fine for desert, but a death trap in mx. So 4th gear sand whoops are safer to run a kickstand than the groomed jumps that are probably tiny at your local track? Makes perfect sense. A kickstand is fine for any situation. The added weight isn't likely going to affect anyone here. Worry about the weight on your gut.
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KMC440 10/28/2017 6:59pm
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Page 21 AMA rulebook.

c. All stands must be removed
Blade Flanagan jr. 10/28/2017 7:16pm
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colintrax wrote:
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike. I've left the stock kickstand on...
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike.
I've left the stock kickstand on my ktm for years now, and it's never unintentionally come down. Despite some nasty crashes.

The kickstand is awesome and I'll keep flying by the haters. I ain't gotta save any energy for putting the bike back on the stand Tongue
Footpegs, handlebars, and levers are required to ride or race a dirt bike, a kickstand is not. Also, being that a kickstand is well over a foot long, I could see how that could be dangerous in a first turn pile up. Most racing organizations require you to take them off. At Endurocross they announce over and over no kickstands allowed on the track. For trailriding they are a great convenience and just about no chance to impale anyone in a pile up.
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If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.

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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
I love how this bro ends his post with "fuckers". Epic.
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Forty 10/28/2017 9:52pm
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
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I love how this bro ends his post with "fuckers". Epic.
Figured you’d be the first
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Got one on the ole 5 Hundy. Great for desert rides. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/10/28/222197/s1200_image.jpg[/img]
Got one on the ole 5 Hundy. Great for desert rides.



that's a beautiful rde you have there sir.
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Samuel 10/29/2017 1:01am
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
It's clear that you do care. On the other hand, people defending kickstands actually do not give a fuck if people choose to run one. I personally have never owned a bike with a kickstand. But I get annoyed at the hurd mentality with no real basis. My opinion can change. Show me a single example of a modern kickstand causing injury.
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KMC440 10/29/2017 1:54am
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Can't wait for the "why can't we run turbo chargers in mx" crowd chimes in ... Whistling
Andy_Greenney 10/29/2017 5:02am
10/29/2017 5:02am
Is it difficult to bolt and un-bolt? If it's not difficult surely it's worth the 5 mins to take it off at an mx track where it's not needed and put back on for the trails where I can see the advantage
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JBecker 72 10/29/2017 7:43am
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Has anyone ever seen a kickstand come down while landing on a jump? Part of me thinks it might mess you up a little but the...
Has anyone ever seen a kickstand come down while landing on a jump? Part of me thinks it might mess you up a little but the forward momentum might just kick it back. I would imagine it would take the force of landing to make it come down and at that point you are already wheels on the ground. If it came down off a lip that would be due to a faulty kickstand. Maybe iam just a dumbass.
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the dirt. It was sketchy as hell. I mentioned to him that it was dragging and might catch one time and in true PA hillbilly fashion he said he didn’t give a shit.
smoothies862 10/29/2017 7:48am
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no. take off put on. wow. complicated.
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PFitzG38 10/29/2017 8:11am
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There is no such thing as a motocross guy with a kickstand. its an oxymoron
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colintrax 10/29/2017 8:27am
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colintrax wrote:
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike. I've left the stock kickstand on...
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike.
I've left the stock kickstand on my ktm for years now, and it's never unintentionally come down. Despite some nasty crashes.

The kickstand is awesome and I'll keep flying by the haters. I ain't gotta save any energy for putting the bike back on the stand Tongue
Blade Flanagan jr. wrote:
Footpegs, handlebars, and levers are required to ride or race a dirt bike, a kickstand is not. Also, being that a kickstand is well over a...
Footpegs, handlebars, and levers are required to ride or race a dirt bike, a kickstand is not. Also, being that a kickstand is well over a foot long, I could see how that could be dangerous in a first turn pile up. Most racing organizations require you to take them off. At Endurocross they announce over and over no kickstands allowed on the track. For trailriding they are a great convenience and just about no chance to impale anyone in a pile up.
Please elaborate on how being a foot long makes it dangerous. Tuck's in pretty well right along the number plate I think....
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JBecker 72 wrote:
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the...
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the dirt. It was sketchy as hell. I mentioned to him that it was dragging and might catch one time and in true PA hillbilly fashion he said he didn’t give a shit.
On a side note, that jump is a pile of fun...
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colintrax 10/29/2017 8:32am
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about my bike.
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
colintrax wrote:
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about...
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about my bike.
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JBecker 72 10/29/2017 9:05am
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JBecker 72 wrote:
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the...
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the dirt. It was sketchy as hell. I mentioned to him that it was dragging and might catch one time and in true PA hillbilly fashion he said he didn’t give a shit.
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On a side note, that jump is a pile of fun...
It really is.
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colintrax 10/29/2017 9:15am
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Lol keep checking latestmxvids, I'm sure they'll get the video for ya Grinning
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Lol keep checking latestmxvids, I'm sure they'll get the video for ya :lol:
Lol keep checking latestmxvids, I'm sure they'll get the video for ya Grinning
I'll search under 'say something to me at the track then'
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
colintrax wrote:
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about...
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about my bike.
And there he is, Mr. Internet tough guy. Ready to fight over a fucking kickstand...
Blade Flanagan jr. 10/29/2017 12:24pm
10/29/2017 12:24pm
colintrax wrote:
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike. I've left the stock kickstand on...
Please explain how a kickstand is more unsafe than a footpeg, handle bar end, lever, or hell the entire bike.
I've left the stock kickstand on my ktm for years now, and it's never unintentionally come down. Despite some nasty crashes.

The kickstand is awesome and I'll keep flying by the haters. I ain't gotta save any energy for putting the bike back on the stand Tongue
Blade Flanagan jr. wrote:
Footpegs, handlebars, and levers are required to ride or race a dirt bike, a kickstand is not. Also, being that a kickstand is well over a...
Footpegs, handlebars, and levers are required to ride or race a dirt bike, a kickstand is not. Also, being that a kickstand is well over a foot long, I could see how that could be dangerous in a first turn pile up. Most racing organizations require you to take them off. At Endurocross they announce over and over no kickstands allowed on the track. For trailriding they are a great convenience and just about no chance to impale anyone in a pile up.
colintrax wrote:
Please elaborate on how being a foot long makes it dangerous. Tuck's in pretty well right along the number plate I think....
Yeah they're tucked in nice until they are not, like in a crash with multiple bikes. Not worth the chance of having a 16" piece of metal sticking up for someone else to land on. That is one reason why they are not allowed in most forms of closed course racing. That being said, I'd bet you ride a KTM, they have very good kick stands that tuck in and take a lot of force to unfold. Many other kickstands are not of that quality.
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Moto_Geek 10/29/2017 1:42pm
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I have a 2014 KTM 300 XC, and I do remove the kickstand on the track even with the stock rubber band safety. It's one bolt to remove. Otherwise it can be a death peg.. It's a safety issue not only for you but others on the track too..
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JBecker 72 wrote:
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the...
Yup, was watching a kid at Breezewood on a YZ250X jumping the 100’ uphill jump. Every time he landed the kickstand was swinging down into the dirt. It was sketchy as hell. I mentioned to him that it was dragging and might catch one time and in true PA hillbilly fashion he said he didn’t give a shit.
BobPA wrote:
On a side note, that jump is a pile of fun...
JBecker 72 wrote:
It really is.
I need to follow someone around that track. I'm sissyl and afraid to go for the jumps on the pro track. The intermediate is a blast.

smoothies862 10/30/2017 11:27am
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Forty wrote:
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense...
If you want to enter a mx race with a GD kickstand knock yourself out. Can’t even care. But don’t rip those that have the sense to choose otherwise. Fuckers.
colintrax wrote:
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about...
Yo Mr.Hardass, come say something to me at the track then. Cause the last 3 years I've had a kickstand ain't nobody said something negative about my bike.
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And there he is, Mr. Internet tough guy. Ready to fight over a fucking kickstand...
kesh me outside.how bout datEvil Silly
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Titan1 10/30/2017 11:43am
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To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly vertical...I see no possible way this thing could ever come down on accident...

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1007/51365/Pro-Moto-Billet-Kicksta…

I love the kick stand...I think all bikes should come with them...I never think twice about it when I ride, and I don't even know its there. One of my favorite aftermarket "add ons" I've ever purchased for a bike.

I think a lot of the "fear" surrounding them in moto is from the yester-years...and aren't relavent with current technology.

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Titan1 wrote:
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly...
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly vertical...I see no possible way this thing could ever come down on accident...

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1007/51365/Pro-Moto-Billet-Kicksta…

I love the kick stand...I think all bikes should come with them...I never think twice about it when I ride, and I don't even know its there. One of my favorite aftermarket "add ons" I've ever purchased for a bike.

I think a lot of the "fear" surrounding them in moto is from the yester-years...and aren't relavent with current technology.

That is the one that I got too. The Pro moto one. Its so damn tight, there is no way its coming down.

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Titan1 10/30/2017 11:51am
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Titan1 wrote:
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly...
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly vertical...I see no possible way this thing could ever come down on accident...

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1007/51365/Pro-Moto-Billet-Kicksta…

I love the kick stand...I think all bikes should come with them...I never think twice about it when I ride, and I don't even know its there. One of my favorite aftermarket "add ons" I've ever purchased for a bike.

I think a lot of the "fear" surrounding them in moto is from the yester-years...and aren't relavent with current technology.

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That is the one that I got too. The Pro moto one. Its so damn tight, there is no way its coming down.

Yup...I think if any skeptics were to actually try and put this stand up and down, it would eliminate their fear.

It's a great product.
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Vet Rider 10/30/2017 11:53am
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Titan1 wrote:
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly...
To asnwer the OP...I run the Pro Moto Billet stand on my KX450...it was $160...and when up, it tucks up under the side number plate, nearly vertical...I see no possible way this thing could ever come down on accident...

https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p/1007/51365/Pro-Moto-Billet-Kicksta…

I love the kick stand...I think all bikes should come with them...I never think twice about it when I ride, and I don't even know its there. One of my favorite aftermarket "add ons" I've ever purchased for a bike.

I think a lot of the "fear" surrounding them in moto is from the yester-years...and aren't relavent with current technology.

Vet Rider wrote:
That is the one that I got too. The Pro moto one. Its so damn tight, there is no way its coming down.

Titan1 wrote:
Yup...I think if any skeptics were to actually try and put this stand up and down, it would eliminate their fear.

It's a great product.
I dont dare to put it up and down with my leg. Its so super spring loaded, it would probably break your leg if it hits you coming down. I use my hand and control it down otherwise its like the kick from a shot gun when it unloads.

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