Herlings racing final round of AMA?

crusty_xx 8/22/2017 8:59am
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WOHOOO ! What does Eli need to do to win the championship if he wins a moto is it all over ? I agree Eli will...
WOHOOO !

What does Eli need to do to win the championship if he wins a moto is it all over ?

I agree Eli will be going for the championship but he's a racer and I wouldn't be surprised to see him go bar to bar with Herlings. Having said that Herlings could be 5th place easily just like he has been in MXGP. But how cool is it to finally see a top class MXGP guy mix it with the AMA.

There will always be moaners so let's ignore them and enjoy the race !
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other moto.
So if Marvin goes 1-1, he can go 2-DNF or something like 10-11
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c0ncEpT 8/22/2017 9:02am
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Very cool. Herlings is among the best in the world. Will be awesome to see him race Ironman!
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X2 on thinking it's awesome he's coming over to race. really respectable. you'll never see a top AMA guy go over for an MXGP just because they want to. i hope he gets great starts and doesn't have any weird issues.
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crusty_xx wrote:
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other...
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other moto.
So if Marvin goes 1-1, he can go 2-DNF or something like 10-11
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said in the booth last weekend his best bet is to ride to win not conserve as you make make just as many mistakes going slow as fast.

I'm no riding coach but I'm just hoping for a flat out Tomac.
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PRM31 8/22/2017 9:46am
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Up 28 on Baggett, 30 on Marv. If he can be 25 up after first moto you'll see a fast Tomac in moto 2. Unless he has it in the bag I don't think you'll see Eli push 100% (nor should he). Great to see 84 coming to race!
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In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said...
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said in the booth last weekend his best bet is to ride to win not conserve as you make make just as many mistakes going slow as fast.

I'm no riding coach but I'm just hoping for a flat out Tomac.
Flat out Tomac in Budds moto 2 looked sooooo much more comfortable than moto 1 budds. Even with the goggle issue.
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jeffro503 8/22/2017 9:53am
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crusty_xx wrote:
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other...
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other moto.
So if Marvin goes 1-1, he can go 2-DNF or something like 10-11
Rowlands wrote:
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said...
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said in the booth last weekend his best bet is to ride to win not conserve as you make make just as many mistakes going slow as fast.

I'm no riding coach but I'm just hoping for a flat out Tomac.
Will all the GP guys be pushing to win , down in FL if the championships aren't in the bag? I personally think he'll ride conservative in the first moto , wrap up the title , then go have fun and hammer in the 2nd moto. I then see him hammering in FL as well.
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motomike137 8/22/2017 9:57am
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PRM31 wrote:
Up 28 on Baggett, 30 on Marv. If he can be 25 up after first moto you'll see a fast Tomac in moto 2. Unless he...
Up 28 on Baggett, 30 on Marv. If he can be 25 up after first moto you'll see a fast Tomac in moto 2. Unless he has it in the bag I don't think you'll see Eli push 100% (nor should he). Great to see 84 coming to race!
Technically he needs to be up 26. If ET scores no points in moto 2 while up 25 and Marv wins the moto and the overall then Musquin will be the champ on the tie breaker of overall wins.
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YamahaJT1 8/22/2017 10:02am
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Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub?

Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless.

KTM collaboration... Never happened Whistling

Perhaps a little AMA "Band of Brothers" action?

I hope ET3 comes out swinging and grabs the "Red Bull" by the horns.
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Knarfious 8/22/2017 10:03am
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Just to add some fuel to the fire.....there was a fully built bike in the Redbull KTM semi at Budds with no numbers on it yet...........
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motomike137 8/22/2017 10:08am
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I wish they would announce something, I might have to make the drive to Ironman!
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PRM31 8/22/2017 10:11am
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PRM31 wrote:
Up 28 on Baggett, 30 on Marv. If he can be 25 up after first moto you'll see a fast Tomac in moto 2. Unless he...
Up 28 on Baggett, 30 on Marv. If he can be 25 up after first moto you'll see a fast Tomac in moto 2. Unless he has it in the bag I don't think you'll see Eli push 100% (nor should he). Great to see 84 coming to race!
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Technically he needs to be up 26. If ET scores no points in moto 2 while up 25 and Marv wins the moto and the overall...
Technically he needs to be up 26. If ET scores no points in moto 2 while up 25 and Marv wins the moto and the overall then Musquin will be the champ on the tie breaker of overall wins.
True.

Imagine if #84 was leading 2nd moto, Eli out for whatever reason and #25 in 2nd. would Roger make the call?? It does add to the possibilities. But if Eli clinches in moto 1 then moto 2 can be a pure race!
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YamahaJT1 8/22/2017 10:12am
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motomike137 wrote:
I wish they would announce something, I might have to make the drive to Ironman!
Dude... It is true. I sinned and went to the "other" site. Did 7 Hail Mary's to cleanse my soul.
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This is the best thing to happen all season!!!!!
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Knarfious wrote:
Just to add some fuel to the fire.....there was a fully built bike in the Redbull KTM semi at Budds with no numbers on it yet...........
What time of day did you see this bike at Budds?
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RG1 8/22/2017 10:29am
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YamahaJT1 wrote:
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub? Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless. KTM collaboration... Never happened :whistle...
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub?

Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless.

KTM collaboration... Never happened Whistling

Perhaps a little AMA "Band of Brothers" action?

I hope ET3 comes out swinging and grabs the "Red Bull" by the horns.
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there have to be sinister reason to it?

Regardless of how he does, it's awesome that he is having a go. It's been a while since someone off his calibre has done it
shaffstall721 8/22/2017 10:29am
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I like this guy more and more. I hope him and Tomac both go 1-2, 2-1

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Rowlands 8/22/2017 10:40am
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jeffro503 wrote:
Will all the GP guys be pushing to win , down in FL if the championships aren't in the bag? I personally think he'll ride conservative...
Will all the GP guys be pushing to win , down in FL if the championships aren't in the bag? I personally think he'll ride conservative in the first moto , wrap up the title , then go have fun and hammer in the 2nd moto. I then see him hammering in FL as well.
Cairoli No, Jonass and Seewer more than likely would but they wouldn't have the speed of the top AMA guys anyway.

I'm not being critical I just hope he does wrap it in moto 1 and go 100% in moto 2. Although he will probably wax Herlings if he is in form Tongue
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YamahaJT1 8/22/2017 10:40am
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YamahaJT1 wrote:
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub? Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless. KTM collaboration... Never happened :whistle...
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub?

Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless.

KTM collaboration... Never happened Whistling

Perhaps a little AMA "Band of Brothers" action?

I hope ET3 comes out swinging and grabs the "Red Bull" by the horns.
RG1 wrote:
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there...
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there have to be sinister reason to it?

Regardless of how he does, it's awesome that he is having a go. It's been a while since someone off his calibre has done it
Keep Calm...

Sinister? Far from it... I bailed on my original post. That WAS sinister.

We have both been here long enough... You have a go at me, I have a go at you. No harm, no foul. Wink
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crusty_xx wrote:
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other...
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other moto.
So if Marvin goes 1-1, he can go 2-DNF or something like 10-11
Rowlands wrote:
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said...
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said in the booth last weekend his best bet is to ride to win not conserve as you make make just as many mistakes going slow as fast.

I'm no riding coach but I'm just hoping for a flat out Tomac.
You guys want to see Tomac loose pretty bad, to wish for a flat.
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cali11 8/22/2017 10:58am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Fastest maybe. He needs to at least ice this title before he can be in the "best" conversation . Just my opinion.
mxb2 wrote:
Agreed. This title is crucial for him.
Park Boys wrote:
Easy to say when the 94 is not there. Even if Eli wins the race with the title he would have 5 wins this year with...
Easy to say when the 94 is not there. Even if Eli wins the race with the title he would have 5 wins this year with no Roczen or Dungey in the class. The title should already be wrapped up by now.
RD had it easy, in 2015 SX. Both Stew & RV won almost all the races 2014. Then RD gets like 10 in 2015.
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YamahaJT1 wrote:
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub? Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless. KTM collaboration... Never happened :whistle...
Roger's revenge for the Tomac MXdN snub?

Herlings self-aggrandizing opportunity to upstage Tomac's AMA title pursuit? - This? If so, classless.

KTM collaboration... Never happened Whistling

Perhaps a little AMA "Band of Brothers" action?

I hope ET3 comes out swinging and grabs the "Red Bull" by the horns.
RG1 wrote:
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there...
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there have to be sinister reason to it?

Regardless of how he does, it's awesome that he is having a go. It's been a while since someone off his calibre has done it
YamahaJT1 wrote:
Keep Calm... Sinister? Far from it... I bailed on my original post. That WAS sinister. We have both been here long enough... You have a go...
Keep Calm...

Sinister? Far from it... I bailed on my original post. That WAS sinister.

We have both been here long enough... You have a go at me, I have a go at you. No harm, no foul. Wink
Sinister wasn't the right word, I couldn't think of the right one though Grinning
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crusty_xx wrote:
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other...
he's 30 points ahead so yeah, if he wins or gets second in a moto, it is over, no matter what he does in the other moto.
So if Marvin goes 1-1, he can go 2-DNF or something like 10-11
Rowlands wrote:
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said...
In that case I don't see why he wouldn't want to win the race and wrap the championship up in the first moto. Like Kenny said in the booth last weekend his best bet is to ride to win not conserve as you make make just as many mistakes going slow as fast.

I'm no riding coach but I'm just hoping for a flat out Tomac.
cali11 wrote:
You guys want to see Tomac loose pretty bad, to wish for a flat.
Huh
Brownstone322 8/22/2017 11:00am
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Knarfious wrote:
Just to add some fuel to the fire.....there was a fully built bike in the Redbull KTM semi at Budds with no numbers on it yet...........
Which raises questions: Just how different is an AMA-spec bike? What difference might that make?

Which isn't to say I expect anyone to have answers to that, because no one ever does.
Brownstone322 8/22/2017 11:02am
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PRM31 wrote:
True. Imagine if #84 was leading 2nd moto, Eli out for whatever reason and #25 in 2nd. would Roger make the call?? It does add to...
True.

Imagine if #84 was leading 2nd moto, Eli out for whatever reason and #25 in 2nd. would Roger make the call?? It does add to the possibilities. But if Eli clinches in moto 1 then moto 2 can be a pure race!
Can't happen. Apparently Herlings will be carrying No. 784.
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YamahaJT1 8/22/2017 11:03am
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cali11 wrote:
You guys want to see Tomac loose pretty bad, to wish for a flat.
You exhibit the rare ability to read through their deceptive BULLSHIT. Thank you.
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YamahaJT1 8/22/2017 11:10am
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RG1 wrote:
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there...
How about taking the opportunity to race because he wants to have a crack at racing those guys and give everyone a show? Why does there have to be sinister reason to it?

Regardless of how he does, it's awesome that he is having a go. It's been a while since someone off his calibre has done it
YamahaJT1 wrote:
Keep Calm... Sinister? Far from it... I bailed on my original post. That WAS sinister. We have both been here long enough... You have a go...
Keep Calm...

Sinister? Far from it... I bailed on my original post. That WAS sinister.

We have both been here long enough... You have a go at me, I have a go at you. No harm, no foul. Wink
RG1 wrote:
Sinister wasn't the right word, I couldn't think of the right one though Grinning
All good, Sir. I am sure we could enjoy a pint!

Now, back to the fray...Angry
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mxb2 8/22/2017 11:11am
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Knarfious wrote:
Just to add some fuel to the fire.....there was a fully built bike in the Redbull KTM semi at Budds with no numbers on it yet...........
Brownstone322 wrote:
Which raises questions: Just how different is an AMA-spec bike? What difference might that make? Which isn't to say I expect anyone to have answers to...
Which raises questions: Just how different is an AMA-spec bike? What difference might that make?

Which isn't to say I expect anyone to have answers to that, because no one ever does.
No production rules in Europe. I think the main difference is sound, and fuel rules. Between the 2 series. More strict in Europe, correct me if I am wrong?.

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