New Helmet

motoxgolf11
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Edited Date/Time 5/22/2017 3:57pm
Hello everyone. I'm in the market for a new Helmet. My current helmet is a Bell Moto-8 and is a bit dated in terms of safety compared to what's out there now. I can decide between 3 helmets. I'm looking at the Fly F2 Carbon, Bell MX-9 with MIPS, and the new SE4 Polyacrylite helmets from TLD. Style and colors aside, which of these 3 are the safest and what are there pros and cons?
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rmoto003
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5/22/2017 1:32am
Yes
mingham97
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5/22/2017 2:51am
Hey mate,
Can say the tld and bell are far superior quality. The fly will squeak on your head. Kinda like a dry door hinge type squeak. How ever, the tld and bell are very very close is quality and I can not discriminate between the two. Tld/bell have a different fit to the fly. Definitely worth trying on in a shop. We sell both helmets at the shop I work at and the bell out sells, but I think this is due to reputation.
Moto520
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5/22/2017 9:26am
Get the Troy Lee Design SE4. I have a couple of the carbon models and they are awesome.
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5/22/2017 10:48am
Were you happy with your Bell Moto-8? If yes, upgrade to the Bell Moto-9 Flex.

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KGAspeed
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5/22/2017 11:02am
There really is no standard unit of measure that will determine which one of these is "safer" or the better choice.

The new Troy Lee SE4 is really impressive and I believe Troy-himself is really pushing hard to make a safe helmet.
5/22/2017 11:15am
I have 2 Bell Moto 9s...not the flex but the standard 400$ one and I love it. Super comfortable and the pads are super easy to take out and put in.
ben5020
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5/22/2017 12:07pm
Have you considered a 6d helmet? They are very comfy and the technology being used sold me on one.
motoxgolf11
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5/22/2017 12:22pm
I have looked at the 6D and I like their helmet technology. When Zach Bell landed headfirst off that triple and wasn't knocked out I was impressed. I love my moto-8 but I like the new tech that has come out on helmets and would like something with the new safety features that have come out. I was looking at moto-9's today. I might go in that direction since I've been such a loyal bell guy. Tld is making a strong case though. My problem is these helmets are soo expensive. Might have to save for a few months.
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5/22/2017 12:31pm
I have looked at the 6D and I like their helmet technology. When Zach Bell landed headfirst off that triple and wasn't knocked out I was...
I have looked at the 6D and I like their helmet technology. When Zach Bell landed headfirst off that triple and wasn't knocked out I was impressed. I love my moto-8 but I like the new tech that has come out on helmets and would like something with the new safety features that have come out. I was looking at moto-9's today. I might go in that direction since I've been such a loyal bell guy. Tld is making a strong case though. My problem is these helmets are soo expensive. Might have to save for a few months.
Another big tip: don't get caught up in the "what is your head worth" cliche statement. Someone will come in here and say it, I'm sure.

Higher price does not equal more safety. You can probably make a slight case that supports 6D for example, but again, no one really knows and tests can't confirm every crash situation.

There are a lot of very-good sub-$300 helmets. That new TLD SE4 is a good example.
5/22/2017 12:37pm
I have looked at the 6D and I like their helmet technology. When Zach Bell landed headfirst off that triple and wasn't knocked out I was...
I have looked at the 6D and I like their helmet technology. When Zach Bell landed headfirst off that triple and wasn't knocked out I was impressed. I love my moto-8 but I like the new tech that has come out on helmets and would like something with the new safety features that have come out. I was looking at moto-9's today. I might go in that direction since I've been such a loyal bell guy. Tld is making a strong case though. My problem is these helmets are soo expensive. Might have to save for a few months.
I wouldn't go for a MX9. The MX9 doesn't have a lot of ventilation and I think you really gonna need that in Cali. I would go Moto 9 or Moto 9 Flex.
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5/22/2017 12:37pm
The 2016 version of the Bell moto 9 are being clearanced out at Rocky Mountain MC and maybe other stores for $299 I believe.
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5/22/2017 12:53pm
At $250. The SE4 Poly is a Game Changer. All the safety inside the helmet is the same as the expensive versions.

$235!!! for an SE4 Poly in mono-colors.
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5/22/2017 12:56pm
Bought a new 2017 6d on eBay last weekend for 400 bucks. Never saw a deal like that before and I NEVER shop helmets on ebay.
motoxgolf11
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5/22/2017 1:11pm
Those are some sweet deals. But I got a dome. A size XL lol. What is Polyacrylite? I know the composite helmets are fiberglass and carbon's are self explanatory but I've never heard of this Polyacrylite material.
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5/22/2017 1:52pm
I love my SE4 carbon and I'd buy another one. I will say, for me, I found the SE4 to fit a bit more snug than other helmets in the same size. Point being, you might want to try one on or at least buy from a retailer that is good about exchanging for a different size. I'm curious if others have found the SE4 to have a tighter fit.
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5/22/2017 1:55pm
Fly f2 with mips for me. I think I just saw leftovers at BTO for $200?
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5/22/2017 2:04pm
TeamGreen wrote:
At $250. The SE4 Poly is a Game Changer. All the safety inside the helmet is the same as the expensive versions. $235!!! for an SE4...
At $250. The SE4 Poly is a Game Changer. All the safety inside the helmet is the same as the expensive versions.

$235!!! for an SE4 Poly in mono-colors.
Where are you seeing this price at
motoxgolf11
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5/22/2017 2:11pm
That's the price I've seen at Motosport and btosports
5/22/2017 2:14pm
The way technology and pricing has gone on helmets the last few years has me wondering about the quality of that new troy lee helmet. I really want it to be as good as the others. Is there a big weight difference? How can a helmet bag, some rubber and venting system be the difference from a 250$ helmet and a 450$ helmet?
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5/22/2017 2:20pm
rippinruts wrote:
The way technology and pricing has gone on helmets the last few years has me wondering about the quality of that new troy lee helmet. I...
The way technology and pricing has gone on helmets the last few years has me wondering about the quality of that new troy lee helmet. I really want it to be as good as the others. Is there a big weight difference? How can a helmet bag, some rubber and venting system be the difference from a 250$ helmet and a 450$ helmet?
Its all about material costs. They must have found a lot of savings on the poly material for that $250 version.

Weight difference is 1300 grams for the most expensive and 1500 grams for the poly. Out of curiosity I weighed my TLD Air (which I really, really like) - it weights about 1450.
TeamGreen
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5/22/2017 2:44pm
TeamGreen wrote:
At $250. The SE4 Poly is a Game Changer. All the safety inside the helmet is the same as the expensive versions. $235!!! for an SE4...
At $250. The SE4 Poly is a Game Changer. All the safety inside the helmet is the same as the expensive versions.

$235!!! for an SE4 Poly in mono-colors.
Where are you seeing this price at


motoxgolf11
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5/22/2017 3:00pm
What is Polyacrylite?? I've never heard of this material. Does anyone have info on it?
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5/22/2017 3:57pm
If it has 'poly-' in the name, probably some sort of plastic composite.

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