Letter To Bike Shops

3/24/2017 8:43am
I feel your frustration OP. Most of my local shops carry tubes(not a lot for some reason) but they are all asking $18.99 for a standard 21 or 19 inch tube. I ordered in bulk from RM at $7.99 and $9.99 per tube. Hard to beat that. Same with oil filters and oil. I'll buy oil in bulk from them and oil filters from DT1 for less than $4 per filter vs $9.99. The longest I wait is 2 days for my stuff and I don't have to waste my time calling around or driving around making sure someone has everything in stock.
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3/24/2017 8:44am
I read this out loud to our parts department, and while you make a valid point, a very valid point at that, however you have to realize departments cater to what they are selling. If you buy more from them, they will stock stuff for you.
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3/24/2017 8:46am
Rob357 wrote:
[quote]Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from...
Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from us helps us directly especially when we also run off of commission from selling parts and bikes. Buying from the online stores does nothing but hurt the little guys but hey your entitled to your opinion.


Its not MY OPINION. its my EXPERIENCE. THAT ought to concern a store owner/manager.
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
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3/24/2017 8:49am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 8:50am
Rob357 wrote:
[quote]Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from...
Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from us helps us directly especially when we also run off of commission from selling parts and bikes. Buying from the online stores does nothing but hurt the little guys but hey your entitled to your opinion.


Its not MY OPINION. its my EXPERIENCE. THAT ought to concern a store owner/manager.
Steadman wrote:
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.

The Shop

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3/24/2017 8:49am
Rob357 wrote:
Dear Motorcyle Store, Why do you even HAVE a Parts Department any more? You sell new Yamaha, KTM, Honda, etc.bikes. You've been a dealer of these...
Dear Motorcyle Store,

Why do you even HAVE a Parts Department any more?

You sell new Yamaha, KTM, Honda, etc.bikes. You've been a dealer of these bikes for a very long time. Your service department and your parts department have been around the same amounnt of time as well. I point this out because you clearly have a lot of experience in the bike world.

What blows my mind is how you chase parts business away.

When we go to a Cycle Store on a Saturday to get a commong item, we don't need to hear and do not want to hear that you "can order it." I can "order it too." Its called The Internet!

If there is a reason for a bricks-and-mortar store, it ought to be to satisfy a need of the parts buyer while he's there...not 3 days later. UPS comes to my house too!

Now some will say "you can't carry everything." I say to that; "you CAN carry ever common item of frequent failure and wear." Some examples are:

- Front and rear sprocket for the brands you carry.
- Inner tubes for common bikes (dirt and street)
- Every possible spark plug for the brand of bikes you carry.
- Fuel hose of all diameters.
- Clutch kits
- Brake master cylinders for the brands you carry.
- Fork oil
- Ready chains (boxed common high performance chains - not off a spool out back)
- Tear offs for the brands of goggles you carry.
- Tires - All common tire sizes!

If what I need is not in your inventory, I have no need to venture to your store's parts dept.

I have gone home empty handed without the most common items, that I don't and won't venture out to your stores any longer. I adapt by building my own inventory for my 2 YZ 85s. Its not that hard to do either. I simply anticipate everything that YOU won't have and I buy multiples.

If I can carry 6 inner tubes for one of the earth's most common dirt bikes, you can certainly carry ONE!

When I need fuel hose for my CR500, I pull from my own spools.

Why can't YOU carry what I can carry for common stuff?

I can no longer see any reason for all 5 of the parts departments in my area. They ought to close down the dept and use the space for other needs, because we no longer "need" your Parts Dept.
Happy to say that I carry just about everything on your list except the master cylinders, but I do keep rebuild kits for what I sell (Honda and Yamaha) plus Kawasaki and Suzuki. Its truly tough to stock expensive items and tell your owner why you need them but sit on the self for a while. I started at the dealer I am at now and it was certainly not geared towards moto. More ATV and UTV stuff. I am actually a one man show at my dealer. Parts and Service Manager, Parts guy and the Service Writer so its a little tough to juggle all of it but I make sure my common items are in stock. Some slip through the cracks time to time but luckily Parts Unlimited can have anything next day to me.
I try and help the guys down at JWTF so I basically try to stock everything I can within reason for all modern MX bikes.
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3/24/2017 8:49am
Canadad wrote:
There is a very simple solution to this... Dealerships....build yourself a strong on-line parts presence.....you will expand your market area to well beyond your local geography...
There is a very simple solution to this...

Dealerships....build yourself a strong on-line parts presence.....you will expand your market area to well beyond your local geography, your volume will go up (including your purchasing power), you can stock more parts assisting the "walk-in guy", the guy who only orders online will buy from you too.....you have to change with the times. I am from Canada and bought from North County Yamaha in California on a regular basis.
Way easier said than done. There will ALWAYS be someone bigger and or cheaper that you. I wish it were that easy.
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3/24/2017 8:51am
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%.

Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a... He interrupts, Got it! Also, I need a... Got it! Hey Chip, I haven't even told you what I... Got that too!

Tomorrow at lunch time, 250 miles away, the box of parts arrives on my desk with regular ground shipping. Occasionally it may be the following day.


Call to 50,000 Sq Ft Taj Mahal dealer for a set of six spark plugs for a Goldwing. Yeah, we have three. Laughing
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3/24/2017 8:52am
Rob357 wrote:
Dear Motorcyle Store, Why do you even HAVE a Parts Department any more? You sell new Yamaha, KTM, Honda, etc.bikes. You've been a dealer of these...
Dear Motorcyle Store,

Why do you even HAVE a Parts Department any more?

You sell new Yamaha, KTM, Honda, etc.bikes. You've been a dealer of these bikes for a very long time. Your service department and your parts department have been around the same amounnt of time as well. I point this out because you clearly have a lot of experience in the bike world.

What blows my mind is how you chase parts business away.

When we go to a Cycle Store on a Saturday to get a commong item, we don't need to hear and do not want to hear that you "can order it." I can "order it too." Its called The Internet!

If there is a reason for a bricks-and-mortar store, it ought to be to satisfy a need of the parts buyer while he's there...not 3 days later. UPS comes to my house too!

Now some will say "you can't carry everything." I say to that; "you CAN carry ever common item of frequent failure and wear." Some examples are:

- Front and rear sprocket for the brands you carry.
- Inner tubes for common bikes (dirt and street)
- Every possible spark plug for the brand of bikes you carry.
- Fuel hose of all diameters.
- Clutch kits
- Brake master cylinders for the brands you carry.
- Fork oil
- Ready chains (boxed common high performance chains - not off a spool out back)
- Tear offs for the brands of goggles you carry.
- Tires - All common tire sizes!

If what I need is not in your inventory, I have no need to venture to your store's parts dept.

I have gone home empty handed without the most common items, that I don't and won't venture out to your stores any longer. I adapt by building my own inventory for my 2 YZ 85s. Its not that hard to do either. I simply anticipate everything that YOU won't have and I buy multiples.

If I can carry 6 inner tubes for one of the earth's most common dirt bikes, you can certainly carry ONE!

When I need fuel hose for my CR500, I pull from my own spools.

Why can't YOU carry what I can carry for common stuff?

I can no longer see any reason for all 5 of the parts departments in my area. They ought to close down the dept and use the space for other needs, because we no longer "need" your Parts Dept.
billyg371 wrote:
Happy to say that I carry just about everything on your list except the master cylinders, but I do keep rebuild kits for what I sell...
Happy to say that I carry just about everything on your list except the master cylinders, but I do keep rebuild kits for what I sell (Honda and Yamaha) plus Kawasaki and Suzuki. Its truly tough to stock expensive items and tell your owner why you need them but sit on the self for a while. I started at the dealer I am at now and it was certainly not geared towards moto. More ATV and UTV stuff. I am actually a one man show at my dealer. Parts and Service Manager, Parts guy and the Service Writer so its a little tough to juggle all of it but I make sure my common items are in stock. Some slip through the cracks time to time but luckily Parts Unlimited can have anything next day to me.
I try and help the guys down at JWTF so I basically try to stock everything I can within reason for all modern MX bikes.
I'm guessing you use WPS, too?

Do you sell riding gear?
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3/24/2017 8:53am
Yeah it's pretty frustrating. I usually keep a stock of No Toil filters and oil filters on hand, but I just had my clutch cable give up and I was surprised no body in town had one. It was like 15 dollars so I'm surprised they didn't have at least one on hand for the range of bikes that use the same cable.
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3/24/2017 8:57am
RPM68 wrote:
I read this out loud to our parts department, and while you make a valid point, a very valid point at that, however you have to...
I read this out loud to our parts department, and while you make a valid point, a very valid point at that, however you have to realize departments cater to what they are selling. If you buy more from them, they will stock stuff for you.
One thing that blew my mind was this ditty:

Was at the No Carolina training camp.

Now who goes to training camps in DROVES? Answer: Minis

There were more YZ85s and SuperMinis there than you could count.

The camp and resident pros all pointed to one local dealer as having a kick-ass parts department. They were close mind you... close to the training camp that's open year-round with more freakin YZ85s every day.

This local dealer is a Yamaha dealer.

I wanted to change sproket ratios for one of my bikes.

Not only did this dealer not have my 51T sproket, but they did'nt have ANY YZ85 sprokets....with a training camp...with tons of little shits on 85s and superminis.

Why didn't I call first? Because the camp folk went on and on about how mega and awaseome their Parts Dept was.
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3/24/2017 8:58am
SVT-Cobra wrote:
Yeah it's pretty frustrating. I usually keep a stock of No Toil filters and oil filters on hand, but I just had my clutch cable give...
Yeah it's pretty frustrating. I usually keep a stock of No Toil filters and oil filters on hand, but I just had my clutch cable give up and I was surprised no body in town had one. It was like 15 dollars so I'm surprised they didn't have at least one on hand for the range of bikes that use the same cable.
And they probably wonder where all the sales revenue has gone.

LOL!!!
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3/24/2017 8:59am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 9:02am
Wow I guess I've been really lucky to have 4 really good Dealers where I live!

I can call & ask for parts person by name & if I ask for the part or give them the part number, they will check inventory.

I've called the dealer & had them put it their hands, then put my name on it so it didn't get sold if it was the last one!

The even pulled parts of a brand new bike for me, so I could make a race!

I have a Yamaha/Suzuki shop just 8 miles from me & if I'm work on one with a friend I'll drive 25 miles to the Yamaha\Suzuki\Honda\KTM dealer, Cause I know that I'll get great service from them.

The only problem I had with the parts department is that they had one Nut Job (RPM 68) Shocked working there!

J/K Brother I still love yaTongue
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3/24/2017 9:00am
Rob357 wrote:
[quote]Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from...
Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from us helps us directly especially when we also run off of commission from selling parts and bikes. Buying from the online stores does nothing but hurt the little guys but hey your entitled to your opinion.


Its not MY OPINION. its my EXPERIENCE. THAT ought to concern a store owner/manager.
Steadman wrote:
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
Rob357 wrote:
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.
You'd think with an MBA, and that you're in sales you'd understand the bullshit you're spewing out of your mouth. You should be thinking of possible solutions for the dealers, rather than that they shouldn't exist. Or, that you are simply dealing with poorly run shops in your area. A successfully run department grows and has loyal customers. You're in sales, come on man.
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3/24/2017 9:04am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 9:14am
braaap707 wrote:
Working at a KTM/ Husky dealership i try to stock every tire, tube, chain and spocket combo, plugs, brake pads forks seal kits and every oil...
Working at a KTM/ Husky dealership i try to stock every tire, tube, chain and spocket combo, plugs, brake pads forks seal kits and every oil you will ever need for a KTM or Husky everything from a 50sx to a FE501 as long as theyre modern bikes made within the last 5 years or so. Most of the time when people come to me for parts for a ten year old bike or older i will not have specific engine mechanical parts or non common wear parts for a old bike. I carry the usual wear items for 10 year old bikes but thats it. Were only given a certain amount of money and space to work with and i fill that space with parts for current bikes of the last 5 years or so. So if you have a a yz85, a platform that hasn't changed much, Im really surprised there's not a dealer around you to give you the items you listed above. Thats common stuff. Plaistow Powersports is a well stocked Yamaha dealer up by you so maybe you can try them. They're good people. Sorry you've run into some ill equipped dealers but were not all like this. A lot of us dealers go above and beyond for our customers so i hope you can find someone to do that for you too.
Bought my bike at plaistow but can't say I've bought any parts or accessories from them. Picked up bike and left.
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3/24/2017 9:06am
HonDawg17 wrote:
So you have your "own inventory"? I'm guessing since you don't own a dealership means its a box or shelf of a few parts. That's not...
So you have your "own inventory"? I'm guessing since you don't own a dealership means its a box or shelf of a few parts. That's not an inventory...That's just spare parts pal. PS: it was YOUR FAULT for not looking at the tube sizes when you left the place. And they DO have Accessory Departments, its still the parts department. Same people and guess what...youre most likely going to have to order accessories too. No one stocks Accessories for everything. Have a good day. I hope you're done name dropping all the shops that couldn't help you out because a supermini big wheel is a special size and there's more big bikes out there than minis.
^^This is why dealers are dying on the vine. You realize that Supermini wheel sizes are shared with a bunch of trail/starter bikes right? Not really a "special size" and anyone working in a parts department should know that.

I use a independent shop for much of what I buy but they are across town from my office and I live in the sticks so being able to go online, pick exactly what I want and know it will be at my office in a day or two makes a ton of sense. .............
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3/24/2017 9:09am
Steadman wrote:
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
Rob357 wrote:
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.
mx196 wrote:
You'd think with an MBA, and that you're in sales you'd understand the bullshit you're spewing out of your mouth. You should be thinking of possible...
You'd think with an MBA, and that you're in sales you'd understand the bullshit you're spewing out of your mouth. You should be thinking of possible solutions for the dealers, rather than that they shouldn't exist. Or, that you are simply dealing with poorly run shops in your area. A successfully run department grows and has loyal customers. You're in sales, come on man.
And if dealers ran good Parts Departments...I'd not be buying online. Why torture myself?

Since you asked:
SALES TIP FOR DEALERS:

Build a relationship with the local tracks. If I'm at a track, the staff ought to know WHO is around for parts. WHERE they are and HOW to get there.

When I ask a track OWNER where I ought to go for some gloves cuz it just got real fnk cold and my daughter is hurting, that track owner ought to have a card in his shack that has the name number and directions just for such an occasion. Now WHO needs to build that card? The Parts Store. Do they do this. FK NO!

How about the Yam deaaler down the street from a professional traning camp loaded with YZ85 tells the camp owner, "we'll stock everything for your campers and tranees!!"

iTS COMMON SENCE: But dealers are lazy lazy lazy
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3/24/2017 9:10am
Acidreamer wrote:
I understand the frustration completely. I just had this happen to me when i went to get some new chain rollers. You have to understand dealers...
I understand the frustration completely. I just had this happen to me when i went to get some new chain rollers.

You have to understand dealers cant stock all these parts. they have to buy all the parts and let them sit on a shelf until someone buys it. Its a huge financial risk they dont want to take. Its much better for the company to order what people need when they need it. The world is about money, not making people happy.

So until rockymountain has a warehouse in every city, this is going to be the case. Personally if i need a part, i go directly on rockymountain and get what i need. Luckily their warehouse is 1 state over so i get free overnight shipping. Plus their parts are cheaper than a discount at a dealer. The only thing i go to dealers for is if i need oil or something before a ride day. Other than that i dont go there. Theyre useless unless youre buying a bike.
Rob357 wrote:
My point is that they are not carrying COMMON parts. If they can't make the commitment to carrying common parts, we have no need for their...
My point is that they are not carrying COMMON parts.

If they can't make the commitment to carrying common parts, we have no need for their stores.
I agree with you 100%.

Im just saying theyre not going to do it because its a risk. Most parts sit on the shelf for years. Even if its a set of brake pads for a trr125. Or a common spark plug. Its money just sitting there instead of their pockets.

Even iron pony in ohio. Its a walmart sized motorcycle store with bikes gear and parts. Very rarely do they have what i need. theres literally millions of different parts and its all subjective as to what is considered common. Youre better off ordering online from the get go.
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3/24/2017 9:12am
newmann wrote:
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%. Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a...
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%.

Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a... He interrupts, Got it! Also, I need a... Got it! Hey Chip, I haven't even told you what I... Got that too!

Tomorrow at lunch time, 250 miles away, the box of parts arrives on my desk with regular ground shipping. Occasionally it may be the following day.


Call to 50,000 Sq Ft Taj Mahal dealer for a set of six spark plugs for a Goldwing. Yeah, we have three. Laughing
You speak the truth, but Chip Munn is an absolute anomaly and the exception to the norm.
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3/24/2017 9:17am
**PLEASE READ**

I was having a conversation the other week with a fellow employee (whom ironically has just lost his job after 16 years working here because of decreasing sales)

"Remember when we used to stock, full top ends, all suspension bearings and seals, cables, levers gaskets, plastic kits, moto gear etc etc ?" "What happened?" "The internet happened."

Over time we were forced to stop stocking certain items because they longer sold or sold so few it made no sense to stock anymore. I believe most smaller dealers are faced with these challenges.

No doubt there are shit dealers out there who don't try hard to win your business. I get that. If we don't have it I can normally get it within one to two days. I always encourage our customers to call in with their needs. Saves them one trip down to the shop.

For those that think most of these online places stock EVERYTHING well that is just foolish. Most have to order from the supplier just like the dealer and can ship it out within a day or two granted I know some of the giant places like (Rocky Mountain MC) are massive and stock probably millions.

It drives me nuts when people come in here and crap on dealers when likely they (the customer) are likely a part of the problem. customer A buys 90% of stuff online, is in a pinch runs down to the dealer they haven't been in for 10 months expecting the world. Again I know not all dealers are equal, but man there are those of us who are fighting hard every single day to keep our jobs and keep the doors open.
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3/24/2017 9:21am
So you have your "own inventory"? I'm guessing since you don't own a dealership means its a box or shelf of a few parts. That's not an inventory...That's just spare parts pal.


I carry cylinders, cables, pistons, 2 of every engine gasket, 3 clutches (soaked), tires, tubes, water-pumps, seals for all externals. Over $2000 in parts. so go pound sand
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3/24/2017 9:22am
Rob357 wrote:
[quote]Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from...
Most of us Motorcycle Dealership employees love our jobs and love Motorcycles just like you so don't treat us like the enemy. You buying parts from us helps us directly especially when we also run off of commission from selling parts and bikes. Buying from the online stores does nothing but hurt the little guys but hey your entitled to your opinion.


Its not MY OPINION. its my EXPERIENCE. THAT ought to concern a store owner/manager.
Steadman wrote:
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
Rob357 wrote:
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.
What kind of sales and in what industry?
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3/24/2017 9:26am
newmann wrote:
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%. Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a...
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%.

Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a... He interrupts, Got it! Also, I need a... Got it! Hey Chip, I haven't even told you what I... Got that too!

Tomorrow at lunch time, 250 miles away, the box of parts arrives on my desk with regular ground shipping. Occasionally it may be the following day.


Call to 50,000 Sq Ft Taj Mahal dealer for a set of six spark plugs for a Goldwing. Yeah, we have three. Laughing
That reminds me Newman, I was one of those that crapped on you in your fuel line thread a long time ago. I honestly and sincerely apologize for that. I believe I was having a terrible day and my last straw was broke. I would shake your hand and apologize in person if it were possible.
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3/24/2017 9:28am
Steadman wrote:
Rob, I'm curious. What do you do for a living?
Rob357 wrote:
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.
Steadman wrote:
What kind of sales and in what industry?
LOTS of dif jobs, but: Selling research to University Presidents. Selling Legal Research to Lawyers and selling compliance data to governments.
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3/24/2017 9:35am
Rob357 wrote:
Been in sales my entire life.
Have an MBA from Syracuse in Marketing.
Steadman wrote:
What kind of sales and in what industry?
Rob357 wrote:
LOTS of dif jobs, but: Selling research to University Presidents. Selling Legal Research to Lawyers and selling compliance data to governments.
Ok that gives myself and others an idea of where you are coming from then. Like I said before, not all shops are equal. A little common courtesy BOTH ways can go a long ways sometimes. It's a fragile, challenging industry.
Like I mentioned before, internet sales have created this shit storm of supply and demand (or lack thereof) within dealer showrooms.
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3/24/2017 9:35am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 9:46am
Joe Schmoe wrote:
Ride Sat/Sun Clean/Inspect bike Sun (Monday if Im lazy) Tuesday order parts 48 hours later... Thursday parts arrive (RMATV or Motosport) Friday evening install them. Repeat...
Ride Sat/Sun
Clean/Inspect bike Sun (Monday if Im lazy)
Tuesday order parts
48 hours later...
Thursday parts arrive (RMATV or Motosport)
Friday evening install them.
Repeat.

Never step foot in a dealer and deal with some hotheaded douchebag kid behind a counter who knows it all, or some crotchety old man who has been traumatized by years of dealing with powersports people.
LOL, last time went in shop I use to frequent some rude,dipshit moron with an attitude gave me bunch of crap for a plug......

Me: Give me 2 B8ES please
DS: For what bike...smart ass attitude
Me: I just need 2 B8ES is all
DS: For what bike...getting pissed
Me: I just need 2 B8ES please, I already know what I need
DS: For what bike....now just flat out rude
Me: Ok, then, I need a plug for a 1975 Bultaco 250 Pursang.....
DS: Uh...uh..I don't know I can't find it
Me: No shit....peace..out

Never spent a dime in there again....the shop is no longer around



The GOOD shops and there are many, have been around for years and built a rapport with customers ( Sales 101 ) Those guys I'll drop coin with and don't mind paying more....hey we all got to eat.
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3/24/2017 9:40am
newmann wrote:
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%. Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a...
Typical 5:15 pm call to Munn Racing: Chip Munn answers phone 95% of the time, maybe 98.7%.

Hey Chip, for my 2008 KTM144, I need a... He interrupts, Got it! Also, I need a... Got it! Hey Chip, I haven't even told you what I... Got that too!

Tomorrow at lunch time, 250 miles away, the box of parts arrives on my desk with regular ground shipping. Occasionally it may be the following day.


Call to 50,000 Sq Ft Taj Mahal dealer for a set of six spark plugs for a Goldwing. Yeah, we have three. Laughing
That means Chip took the time at the end of the day to pull the parts, box/package the parts, bill out, pull up and print out the shipping label, and deliver the box to the shipper. Be it the Greyhound bus station, ups, fed ex, USPS, etc.
Congrats to Chip, for taking the effort to be outstanding.
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3/24/2017 9:41am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 9:44am
You would be surprised at how much dead dusty old must have inventory a lot of these dealers have paid for and it is sitting there rotting. They have to be careful with some items.
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3/24/2017 9:49am Edited Date/Time 3/24/2017 9:50am
Rob357 wrote:
LOTS of dif jobs, but: Selling research to University Presidents. Selling Legal Research to Lawyers and selling compliance data to governments.
Posting on vital for only a week you are certainly climbing the douche ladder at an alarming rate. Do you carry a proper torque wrench? Sounds like your sprocket bolts are coming loose after your recent gearing change.
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3/24/2017 9:52am
Steadman wrote:
What kind of sales and in what industry?
Rob357 wrote:
LOTS of dif jobs, but: Selling research to University Presidents. Selling Legal Research to Lawyers and selling compliance data to governments.
Steadman wrote:
Ok that gives myself and others an idea of where you are coming from then. Like I said before, not all shops are equal. A little...
Ok that gives myself and others an idea of where you are coming from then. Like I said before, not all shops are equal. A little common courtesy BOTH ways can go a long ways sometimes. It's a fragile, challenging industry.
Like I mentioned before, internet sales have created this shit storm of supply and demand (or lack thereof) within dealer showrooms.
I am courtious to ALL bike shop people. They are brothers in bikes after all.

Its funny this whole "Internet Thing" conversation has not come up before now, given that this forum in ON the internet.

I hate to see good business (or really ANY business) go neglected, and this is one very very neglected business sector.

If bricks and mortar sales was doing its proper job, the internet would have had a very hard time taking our business. "Buy my bike's parts over the internet??? NO WAY!"

But the conditions of the market were ripe for being picked to death. I'm beginning to think the patient has died, and just not hit the floor yet.
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3/24/2017 9:55am
Rob357 wrote:
LOTS of dif jobs, but: Selling research to University Presidents. Selling Legal Research to Lawyers and selling compliance data to governments.
BobPA wrote:
Posting on vital for only a week you are certainly climbing the douche ladder at an alarming rate. Do you carry a proper torque wrench? Sounds...
Posting on vital for only a week you are certainly climbing the douche ladder at an alarming rate. Do you carry a proper torque wrench? Sounds like your sprocket bolts are coming loose after your recent gearing change.
So everything I've said is invalid?

There is no issue here with parts departments and dealers.Thanks for the warm welcome.

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