Alleged thief shot to death after man spots stolen dirt bike being sold online

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AKRON, Ohio — A Streetsboro man is accused of shooting another man to death over a stolen dirt bike allegedly being sold online.

According to police, William Knight, 63, faces a charge of involuntary manslaughter and felonious assault in the case.

According to police reports, an Akron man on Feb. 4 reported a dirt bike was stolen from his unlocked garage. He then noticed it for sale on a social media site.

The man made several attempts through social media to contact the person attempting to sell his dirt bike, police reports state. After several attempts, he was able to finally meet up with the alleged thief around 9 p.m. Monday night in the 700 block of Danmead Street.

The man took his 63-year-old father-in-law and his wife with him.

He then got into a verbal altercation with the 24-year-old man who was attempting to sell the dirt bike. The alleged thief tried to flee the area on the bike and started to drive toward the man.

That’s when Knight reportedly pulled out a handgun and shot the thief. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

The 24-year-old’s name is being withheld pending positive identification and family notification.
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tobz
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3/21/2017 11:50pm
Moral of the story: Don't be a grub and steal other people's shit.
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3/22/2017 12:10am
Wild West justice right there
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3/22/2017 12:12am
Dude was the same age as his father in law?
I guess chicks do like guys who ride dirt bikes
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3/22/2017 12:48am
If the 24 yo did steal the bike, he got what he deserved and saved us tax payers some money.

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3/22/2017 1:13am
Only in 'Merica...
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3/22/2017 1:34am
Man that guy's gotta be pissed if he decided to pull his gun...
Shuld've called Dungey for advice. "It's just a dirt bike" Whistling
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I'm as anti gun as they come....99% of the time
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3/22/2017 1:52am
tobz wrote:
Moral of the story: Don't be a grub and steal other people's shit.
Correct, end of thread.
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3/22/2017 2:01am
rrjr wrote:
Dude was the same age as his father in law?
I guess chicks do like guys who ride dirt bikes
Nah, the father in law is 63 and he's the one who pulled the trigger.
The 24 year old stole the bike and was trying to run down the real owner (the man). The man's father in law (63) shot the 24 year old. It never says how old the man (owner) is.
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3/22/2017 3:39am
Good. I am sure they will make the thief into a hero.
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3/22/2017 4:02am
tobz wrote:
Moral of the story: Don't be a grub and steal other people's shit.
Yep. Hope the man is able to get his charges dropped or at least significantly reduced. I don't have an ounce of sympathy for a thief.
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3/22/2017 4:37am
The details were a little different on the news last night. The bike was stolen over a year ago, and the "seller" bought it used a couple of months ago and was attempting to resell it. They have no idea if the seller is the one who actually stole the bike. Regardless, the 63 year old is going to fry...
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3/22/2017 4:52am
If you buy a bike without a title its your responsibility to make sure its not stolen.
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3/22/2017 5:03am
walleyeguy wrote:
If you buy a bike without a title its your responsibility to make sure its not stolen.
A lot of states don't title dirt bikes
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3/22/2017 5:08am
walleyeguy wrote:
If you buy a bike without a title its your responsibility to make sure its not stolen.
Exactly....That's why I won't buy a 1999 or newer bike in Ohio without the title. It is funny the shitty attitude that you get from people, like "Why should I have prove to you that I actually own the bike"
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3/22/2017 6:35am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 6:37am
I feel zero pity for the thief. Don't steal other people's stuff! However, you better know he's in fact the thief before taking that drastic of action.
3/22/2017 6:40am
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
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3/22/2017 6:44am
Not that it matters, but this happened in the hood 30 minutes north of my house. If I remember right, it was over a yz85.
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3/22/2017 6:44am
He will be going to jail so I'm sure it will all be worth it.
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3/22/2017 7:01am
UpTiTe wrote:
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
Obviously in this situation this guy will be in a lot of trouble. In most states you can defend your property with deadly force, weather the perpetrator is armed or not. Your vehicle is an extension of your property. So if you are getting car jacked at a local grocery store you have every right to defend your property with deadly force. Obviously this case does not follow the "castle" rules of law of defense of property so he will get jail time most likely.
3/22/2017 7:04am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 7:05am
UpTiTe wrote:
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
TXDirt wrote:
Obviously in this situation this guy will be in a lot of trouble. In most states you can defend your property with deadly force, weather the...
Obviously in this situation this guy will be in a lot of trouble. In most states you can defend your property with deadly force, weather the perpetrator is armed or not. Your vehicle is an extension of your property. So if you are getting car jacked at a local grocery store you have every right to defend your property with deadly force. Obviously this case does not follow the "castle" rules of law of defense of property so he will get jail time most likely.
Personally, if somebody trying to jack my car and they have a gun, I'm getting out he's taking it no problem. Not a single possession in the world is worth my family's life or mine, that's what insurance is for.
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3/22/2017 7:04am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 7:06am
Bigshow wrote:
If the 24 yo did steal the bike, he got what he deserved and saved us tax payers some money.
Not really because now the guy that did the shooting is going to jail to be a ward of the state which means the tax payers are paying to house feed and take care of him medically​! So now he won't be able to ride the dirt bike any damn way! Not trying to sound like I'm taking up for the dead guy but he should have had tried to have the police go with him to get the bike back and he would be able to ride again and he would be free! That shit was handled with no thought! SMH
3/22/2017 7:04am
UpTiTe wrote:
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
One of the few sane people in this thread. You don't get to murder for robbery, and if KHI guy is correct he even killed the wrong guy.
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3/22/2017 7:06am
Sounds like the thief was coming at him with a 230lb weapon and the father-in-law stopped the threat . Can't just shoot someone for stealing your bike but if your life is threatened and he's coming at you it's a little different.
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3/22/2017 7:09am
Sucks if it wasnt the thief. And honestly, if you dont catch them in the act or fleeing the scene, you really cant shoot em. He should have had a rusty old knife on him and planted it on the seller if he planned to shoot him though.

Its not on the seller if he bought it from someone. He didnt steal it, bikes get sold with a BoS all the time, not that I would ever buy on without a title, but it happens.

Its not worth dying or going to jail, especially for a YZ85. Maybe a CRF450R...
3/22/2017 7:12am
RonJon516 wrote:
Sounds like the thief was coming at him with a 230lb weapon and the father-in-law stopped the threat . Can't just shoot someone for stealing your...
Sounds like the thief was coming at him with a 230lb weapon and the father-in-law stopped the threat . Can't just shoot someone for stealing your bike but if your life is threatened and he's coming at you it's a little different.
1, it was a yz85.

2, if you're not agile enough to get out of the way you shouldn't put yourself in that situation.

3, if you're not tough enough to keep the got off the motorcycle, you shouldn't be putting yourself in that situation.

4, if you have the buy set up from the guy that stole your motorcycle, you should call the cops for them to go with you so you don't end up in this situation.
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3/22/2017 7:13am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 7:13am
UpTiTe wrote:
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
TXDirt wrote:
Obviously in this situation this guy will be in a lot of trouble. In most states you can defend your property with deadly force, weather the...
Obviously in this situation this guy will be in a lot of trouble. In most states you can defend your property with deadly force, weather the perpetrator is armed or not. Your vehicle is an extension of your property. So if you are getting car jacked at a local grocery store you have every right to defend your property with deadly force. Obviously this case does not follow the "castle" rules of law of defense of property so he will get jail time most likely.
UpTiTe wrote:
Personally, if somebody trying to jack my car and they have a gun, I'm getting out he's taking it no problem. Not a single possession in...
Personally, if somebody trying to jack my car and they have a gun, I'm getting out he's taking it no problem. Not a single possession in the world is worth my family's life or mine, that's what insurance is for.
someone points a gun at me, they will die. no way i'm gonna hope he don't shoot me. i carry....encourage others to lawfully do so as well. i'll never be a helpless victim.
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3/22/2017 7:14am
UpTiTe wrote:
You people are idiots if you think a stolen motorcycles worth killing somebody for.
Obviously it was worth enough for the guy to try and use it to run down the people confronting him.

Can't have it both ways.
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3/22/2017 7:16am
Justice is nice, but I'd imagine as this guy sits in prison for killing someone he will regret his decision. Get insurance, let them buy you a new bike. Call the cops and have them come with you. So many better options. The guy stole a dirtbike...he didn't physically harm you.

Dumb move.
3/22/2017 7:16am Edited Date/Time 3/22/2017 7:18am
dboivin wrote:
someone points a gun at me, they will die. no way i'm gonna hope he don't shoot me. i carry....encourage others to lawfully do so as...
someone points a gun at me, they will die. no way i'm gonna hope he don't shoot me. i carry....encourage others to lawfully do so as well. i'll never be a helpless victim.
LMAO

Yea, when you get into that situation you go ahead and give me a call and tell me how easy it was to pull a gun out on somebody that already has the draw on you.

I swear, some you think it's just so easy to pull a gun and pull the trigger, yeah wait till you're in that situation and see how you really Act.

EDIT . I'm 100% for gun rights.

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