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Park Boys 2/15/2017 8:34am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Look at MC, Reed, and Carmichaels stats. All 3 of them have higher finishes and averages. So, yeah, Dungey is average for a champion
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Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry...
Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry pick certain years and has two SX titles to RDs 3 and then when you add MX in the mix Dungey blows Reed away. Three guys in the history of the sport have more SX titles than him.... pretty average champ in my book. Also when they go outdoors Dungey's stats... gasp get better. The same can not be said about MC and Reed. Combined Dungey is 4th place on the all time wins list in SX he is 6th. Pretty average I must say. If he wins the title this year it will be SX title number 4... and overall number 8. Pretty average as well. He has never missed a SX season only a few races in 12 also pretty average. The next guy on the all time list for wins is MC the guy behind him is RV. I saw you say 24-0 in another post. While how many guys sans RC have two 10 + MX wins in a season. I'll wait.. seems pretty average to me.
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Atleast you can admit its average. For champions. You seem to miss that part. His stats arent any better nor worse than other champions. Thats my...
Atleast you can admit its average. For champions. You seem to miss that part. His stats arent any better nor worse than other champions. Thats my point. He is right there with them. Average. For a champion. Comprehend? Vitard.... classic.
You really that dim? A guy that is top 6 in every 250/450 statistical category is average? Since every champ has 3 titles because that's average. There have been 20 men who have won a SX title. 20 x 3 equals 60 yet SX has only been around since 74. I'm no math expert but it has not been 60 years since 74. So can you explain how you came up with RD being an average champ. Clearly your statistical knowledge of the sport is deep for you to conclude he is average, when the numbers say otherwise. What metrics did you use?
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Average for a champion ? Who thinks like that ?
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Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
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yeah but how many got handpicked out of the B class by "the man" and turned into what he is???? McGrath/Payton only comparable to what Dungey has accomplished..........but yeah I guess he does suck Unsure Unsure Unsure

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Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying he is equal to the greats of the sport, but is just average?
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When I read those Dungey stats and how he stacks up to recent Champions, all it did was shine a light on how good Dungey's run has been. At the same time, it gave me a renewed appreciation for those past Champions. A win win.

10 years from now, I hope we can use Dungey's stats to help shine a light on the next. Hard to predict who that will be or if it will even happen again.
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Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
You just mentioned RC,Reed,MC and JS. You are calling these guys average champions. They are extroadaniry champions the cream of the crop just like Dungey. BTW Reed has 3 titles to Dungey's 7 and Bubba has 5 to Dungey's 7. Last time I checked 7 titles to 3 is over 100% more. Show me the stats, I know em and that's your problem, you have no clue. Dungey by every measure is a all time champ not average. He has 7 national titles say that over and over again. RC,RV,MC are the only three with more.. that's three guys. Three! Not to mention he is leading the points for what would be his 8th title matching the rather average champ MC. Compare his stats to the guys he is equal to? Those are all time guys not average. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
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So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying...
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying he is equal to the greats of the sport, but is just average?
I think that is exactly what he is saying.
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Dtat720 2/15/2017 9:49am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
BobPA wrote:
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying...
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying he is equal to the greats of the sport, but is just average?
My apologies, I should have been more specific. The greats, yes. I thought that was understood given the subject of this topic and the examples given multiple times. He is equal, average. No better, no worse. The title to this thread was "crazy stat." But there have 3 other examples of the stat given and they are all equal or better than Dungeys. So among his level of company, its average.
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BobPA wrote:
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying...
So you say his stats are the same as the GREATS, but he is just an average champion? What is your argument here. You are saying he is equal to the greats of the sport, but is just average?
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I think that is exactly what he is saying.
It isn't hard to understand what he is saying.... Dungey will go down as one of the best hands down. Has he done anything that the 3 to 5 greats of the last 25 years has done? The answer is No he hasn't but his stats match the previous champions. When you compare him with "greats" he ranks with the others which would equate him to being "average."

Average in this definition is a positive because it is in comparison to the "greats" of the last 25 years.

Turn the fan boy level down a bit and take a couple of deep breaths.
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BobPA 2/15/2017 10:23am
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My apologies, I should have been more specific. The greats, yes. I thought that was understood given the subject of this topic and the examples given...
My apologies, I should have been more specific. The greats, yes. I thought that was understood given the subject of this topic and the examples given multiple times. He is equal, average. No better, no worse. The title to this thread was "crazy stat." But there have 3 other examples of the stat given and they are all equal or better than Dungeys. So among his level of company, its average.
I missed one of your previous posts and I understand now...Just the way some of it was worded sounded like you were ragging on the Dunge, but I see your points.
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Dtat720 2/15/2017 10:25am
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Dtat720 wrote:
My apologies, I should have been more specific. The greats, yes. I thought that was understood given the subject of this topic and the examples given...
My apologies, I should have been more specific. The greats, yes. I thought that was understood given the subject of this topic and the examples given multiple times. He is equal, average. No better, no worse. The title to this thread was "crazy stat." But there have 3 other examples of the stat given and they are all equal or better than Dungeys. So among his level of company, its average.
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I missed one of your previous posts and I understand now...Just the way some of it was worded sounded like you were ragging on the Dunge...
I missed one of your previous posts and I understand now...Just the way some of it was worded sounded like you were ragging on the Dunge, but I see your points.
Not at all, I like Dungey. I respect the hell out of him for the adversity he endured to get to the point of getting Rogers attention. His drive is rare. Which makes him one of the greats.
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Dtat720 2/15/2017 10:27am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
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You just mentioned RC,Reed,MC and JS. You are calling these guys average champions. They are extroadaniry champions the cream of the crop just like Dungey. BTW...
You just mentioned RC,Reed,MC and JS. You are calling these guys average champions. They are extroadaniry champions the cream of the crop just like Dungey. BTW Reed has 3 titles to Dungey's 7 and Bubba has 5 to Dungey's 7. Last time I checked 7 titles to 3 is over 100% more. Show me the stats, I know em and that's your problem, you have no clue. Dungey by every measure is a all time champ not average. He has 7 national titles say that over and over again. RC,RV,MC are the only three with more.. that's three guys. Three! Not to mention he is leading the points for what would be his 8th title matching the rather average champ MC. Compare his stats to the guys he is equal to? Those are all time guys not average. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
You are putting words in my mouth to support your arguement instead of comprehending what i said. Chill out
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What a performance. I was so pumped! Dungey gained quite a few lifelong fans with that ride I'm sure...
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Phantom 661 2/15/2017 11:13am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Not at all, I like Dungey. I respect the hell out of him for the adversity he endured to get to the point of getting Rogers...
Not at all, I like Dungey. I respect the hell out of him for the adversity he endured to get to the point of getting Rogers attention. His drive is rare. Which makes him one of the greats.
Perhaps you could have just said this from the beginning. The greats of this sport are considered as such because their stats/accomplishments are rare and well above average. Dungey's stats are very rare in the sport. The term "average" just doesn't fit in any context regarding the matter.
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Titan1 2/15/2017 11:19am
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Dtat720 wrote:
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
"Compare his stats with those he is equal to."

Compare anyone to someone they are "equal to" and you'll find they are the same or "average"...since, you know, if something/someone is "equal" to another thing, then that means they are the same...you do know what "equal" means? Right?

Your logic is interesting...compare all the greats to each other, and SURPRISE they are all great???

Dungey is great, just like all the other greats? (Since he's "equal" to them.)

What exactly are you trying to say?

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Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He...
Christ almighty...... Compare his stats with those he is equal to. His stats are no better nor are they sny worse than the other greats. He is average with them. Apparently a post was missed somewhere were i said this already. There is another thread with RC, Reed, MC, and a few JS stats. Dungey is right about equal over the same time frame and race entries. That is average for a champion. Not any better, not any worse either. Nothing stands out aside from the podium streak. The other riders have their own accomolishments that Dungey doesnt have. He is right about the same sans the win streaks. Is it really that hard to comprehend?
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You just mentioned RC,Reed,MC and JS. You are calling these guys average champions. They are extroadaniry champions the cream of the crop just like Dungey. BTW...
You just mentioned RC,Reed,MC and JS. You are calling these guys average champions. They are extroadaniry champions the cream of the crop just like Dungey. BTW Reed has 3 titles to Dungey's 7 and Bubba has 5 to Dungey's 7. Last time I checked 7 titles to 3 is over 100% more. Show me the stats, I know em and that's your problem, you have no clue. Dungey by every measure is a all time champ not average. He has 7 national titles say that over and over again. RC,RV,MC are the only three with more.. that's three guys. Three! Not to mention he is leading the points for what would be his 8th title matching the rather average champ MC. Compare his stats to the guys he is equal to? Those are all time guys not average. What is so hard for you to understand about that?
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You are putting words in my mouth to support your arguement instead of comprehending what i said. Chill out
Dbag just went from Dungey is average to one of the greats. You sir are a real dumb ass.
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Dtat720 2/15/2017 11:23am
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jesus some of you have zero comprehension.....

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Dtat720 2/15/2017 11:24am
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The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had better averages. A fluff job for Dungey, when in reality, the stat is average for a guy like him. How is that hard to understand?
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Dtat720 wrote:
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had...
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had better averages. A fluff job for Dungey, when in reality, the stat is average for a guy like him. How is that hard to understand?
LOL

"The stat is average for a guy like him"...meaning...If you compare all the greats to each other...they're all great. That's basically what you are saying.

So I guess your point is valid...its just funny that you feel the need to point it out is all.

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This is a forum...... for discussion...... next time i will jump on the fanboy train and fawn over it and fall in place like a good fanboy. I swear....
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That photo with his Mom yelling is one of my favorite photos of all time. Going into turn 1 with just seconds to spare from being...
That photo with his Mom yelling is one of my favorite photos of all time. Going into turn 1 with just seconds to spare from being lapped and DQ'd and then pulls away from Barcia as he charges through the pack. Awesome!
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Dtat720 wrote:
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had...
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had better averages. A fluff job for Dungey, when in reality, the stat is average for a guy like him. How is that hard to understand?
It is difficult only for those with no reading comprehension....
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Dungey's era and accomplishments included battling against that other little pesky redhead who ranks up there with anybody in the sport's history and had a pretty good run himself for 8 years.
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Dtat720 wrote:
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had...
The post was about a crazy stat. That turns out, while being pretty ridiculous at first, isnt really that crazy. Others have done it and had better averages. A fluff job for Dungey, when in reality, the stat is average for a guy like him. How is that hard to understand?
The OP started a thread titled "Crazy Dungey stat". Giving the Dunge some kudos for obtaining some rare stats doesn't equate to a "fluff job for Dungey" as you claim.
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Let it go....
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Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry...
Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry pick certain years and has two SX titles to RDs 3 and then when you add MX in the mix Dungey blows Reed away. Three guys in the history of the sport have more SX titles than him.... pretty average champ in my book. Also when they go outdoors Dungey's stats... gasp get better. The same can not be said about MC and Reed. Combined Dungey is 4th place on the all time wins list in SX he is 6th. Pretty average I must say. If he wins the title this year it will be SX title number 4... and overall number 8. Pretty average as well. He has never missed a SX season only a few races in 12 also pretty average. The next guy on the all time list for wins is MC the guy behind him is RV. I saw you say 24-0 in another post. While how many guys sans RC have two 10 + MX wins in a season. I'll wait.. seems pretty average to me.
Every year Villopoto and Dungey lined up together and raced a whole series, Villopoto crushed Dungey.

Whether it was 2008 or 2014, Dungey could never beat Villopoto. It's hard to say Dungey is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he got beaten down by the #2 every single time.
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Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry...
Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry pick certain years and has two SX titles to RDs 3 and then when you add MX in the mix Dungey blows Reed away. Three guys in the history of the sport have more SX titles than him.... pretty average champ in my book. Also when they go outdoors Dungey's stats... gasp get better. The same can not be said about MC and Reed. Combined Dungey is 4th place on the all time wins list in SX he is 6th. Pretty average I must say. If he wins the title this year it will be SX title number 4... and overall number 8. Pretty average as well. He has never missed a SX season only a few races in 12 also pretty average. The next guy on the all time list for wins is MC the guy behind him is RV. I saw you say 24-0 in another post. While how many guys sans RC have two 10 + MX wins in a season. I'll wait.. seems pretty average to me.
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Every year Villopoto and Dungey lined up together and raced a whole series, Villopoto crushed Dungey. Whether it was 2008 or 2014, Dungey could never beat...
Every year Villopoto and Dungey lined up together and raced a whole series, Villopoto crushed Dungey.

Whether it was 2008 or 2014, Dungey could never beat Villopoto. It's hard to say Dungey is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he got beaten down by the #2 every single time.
"CRUSHED" ??

Tad bit of an exaggeration, maybe ?
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Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry...
Don't you tell me about stats, Vitard. SX is over 40 years old and you list three people. Reed has a higher average if you cherry pick certain years and has two SX titles to RDs 3 and then when you add MX in the mix Dungey blows Reed away. Three guys in the history of the sport have more SX titles than him.... pretty average champ in my book. Also when they go outdoors Dungey's stats... gasp get better. The same can not be said about MC and Reed. Combined Dungey is 4th place on the all time wins list in SX he is 6th. Pretty average I must say. If he wins the title this year it will be SX title number 4... and overall number 8. Pretty average as well. He has never missed a SX season only a few races in 12 also pretty average. The next guy on the all time list for wins is MC the guy behind him is RV. I saw you say 24-0 in another post. While how many guys sans RC have two 10 + MX wins in a season. I'll wait.. seems pretty average to me.
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Every year Villopoto and Dungey lined up together and raced a whole series, Villopoto crushed Dungey. Whether it was 2008 or 2014, Dungey could never beat...
Every year Villopoto and Dungey lined up together and raced a whole series, Villopoto crushed Dungey.

Whether it was 2008 or 2014, Dungey could never beat Villopoto. It's hard to say Dungey is the greatest thing since sliced bread when he got beaten down by the #2 every single time.
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"CRUSHED" ??

Tad bit of an exaggeration, maybe ?
Ya, who was right behind him when this happened? And I mean literally right behind him.

https://youtu.be/jVlFqiErfyc

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