Dungey always underestimated WHY

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tobz 2/5/2017 3:06pm
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When Tomac comes from 8th, passes Dungey like he's standing still then puts 8 or so seconds on him, I think it's pretty obvious what were...
When Tomac comes from 8th, passes Dungey like he's standing still then puts 8 or so seconds on him, I think it's pretty obvious what were talking about.

But hey vanilla dunge will just keep motoring along and probably pick up another championship. It's what he does, he outlasts the faster guys.
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This is exactly what I'm referring to for starting this thread. It's not that he out lasts any one he's just simply better. So the nights...
This is exactly what I'm referring to for starting this thread. It's not that he out lasts any one he's just simply better. So the nights he wins what the excuse for that because I'm sure Dungey has beat "the faster guys" more than they have beat him or they would have the #1 plate. Also, how is he not the fastest guy carrying the #1 plate and it's red as well.
1st Amendment wrote:
They give out a championship for raw speed here. The real championship means nothing compared to the guy that has raw speed 3-4 rounds a year.
See above.
Spat24 2/5/2017 3:11pm
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Not sure I agree about that. RV still has more titles and still will even if Dungey win's both this year... and he never had a...
Not sure I agree about that.

RV still has more titles and still will even if Dungey win's both this year... and he never had a team that wasn't paying him mega bucks...
I am not sure about this.

If Dungey wins both - he will have 10 championships (combined 250& 450)
Poto has 10 championships (combined 250 &450)

At the start of this season Dungey and Poto had (6) 450 titles each.
So if he wins just one this year he will have more titles than Poto in the big boy class.

This data is from RacerX - The Vault.
UpTiTe 2/5/2017 3:18pm
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How can anybody that knows anything about Motocross or Supercross say that Dungey is a boring?

He works relentlessly at his trade and is very good at it, just because you don't see Flash in it is absolutely stupid.
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zehn 2/5/2017 3:20pm
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Langhammx wrote:
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/ryan-dungey-net-worth/ http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/ryan-villopoto-net-worth/ Villopoto quit after '14. Dungey has won 3 titles since then... you do the math. ;) And just for the record and as long...
http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/ryan-dungey-net-worth/

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/ryan-villopoto-net-wor…

Villopoto quit after '14. Dungey has won 3 titles since then... you do the math. Wink


And just for the record and as long as we are talking about net worth... Here's the richest guy in the game, be FAR !!!

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/chad-reed-net-worth/
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Bro.

If you're gonna post those links as "proof" then why don't we go and argue about the fucking tooth fairy instead?
kong0036 wrote:
Chad Reed net worth $60 million

http://www.therichest.com/celebnetworth/athletes/chad-reed-net-worth/

Ricky net worth $25 million

i think those other boys have a lot to go to catch those 2
I can't believe you guys think that "source" is at all accurate or reliable.

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tobz wrote:
When Tomac comes from 8th, passes Dungey like he's standing still then puts 8 or so seconds on him, I think it's pretty obvious what were...
When Tomac comes from 8th, passes Dungey like he's standing still then puts 8 or so seconds on him, I think it's pretty obvious what were talking about.

But hey vanilla dunge will just keep motoring along and probably pick up another championship. It's what he does, he outlasts the faster guys.
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Dungey beat RV straight up in 2010 SX he was in the points lead when rv crashed out . Plus people really need to go look...
Dungey beat RV straight up in 2010 SX he was in the points lead when rv crashed out . Plus people really need to go look at the 2011 outdoors again ,because Dungey was the best guy and should and would have won.

people are saying TOMAC was way faster last night is bull. Dungey was ever bit as fast bar doing the quad . But when you have a 17 point lead ,you can take a second and not have to do a skechy quad .Tomac will have to hang it out every week like that to win .(he was a ft away from a huge crash on that quad in the semi )
"people are saying TOMAC was way faster last night is bull. Dungey was ever bit as fast bar doing the quad . "

this is simply not true. i was there.
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I'm just going to come back and bump the thread at the end of the sx season. I'll then bump it again at the end of the nationals when Dungey has both championships.
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tobz 2/5/2017 4:16pm
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I'm just going to come back and bump the thread at the end of the sx season. I'll then bump it again at the end of...
I'm just going to come back and bump the thread at the end of the sx season. I'll then bump it again at the end of the nationals when Dungey has both championships.
Sounds exciting for you. Although still doesn't discredit what your disagreeing with?

We could probably come up with his interview answers for when this happens (since roczen is out indefinitely) "I've got to give it to my sponsors, my team, the bike was great, I'd like to thanks the lord jesus chr.. Zzzzzzz"
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Crush 2/5/2017 4:29pm
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zehn wrote:
I can't believe you guys think that "source" is at all accurate or reliable.
There is no way they're accurate.

At the same point in 2012 RV had 6 major titles to Dungey's 4...

If nothing else, Ricky has at least 10 championships with a million dollar bonus and he's been retired for 10 years. Even if he was an idiot he'd have to be worth more than that.

And the 60 million figure has basically been shat on over and again... Even if it was one time true, I bet TwoTwo motorsports caused a pretty big dent!
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malachi177 2/5/2017 4:30pm
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tobz wrote:
Sounds exciting for you. Although still doesn't discredit what your disagreeing with? We could probably come up with his interview answers for when this happens (since...
Sounds exciting for you. Although still doesn't discredit what your disagreeing with?

We could probably come up with his interview answers for when this happens (since roczen is out indefinitely) "I've got to give it to my sponsors, my team, the bike was great, I'd like to thanks the lord jesus chr.. Zzzzzzz"
He can say whatever he friggin wants on the podium. Hell he could thank a turnip ffs...doesn't matter. Sounds like it's more your issue with whom he thanks then it is his.
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Crush wrote:
There is no way they're accurate. At the same point in 2012 RV had 6 major titles to Dungey's 4... If nothing else, Ricky has at...
There is no way they're accurate.

At the same point in 2012 RV had 6 major titles to Dungey's 4...

If nothing else, Ricky has at least 10 championships with a million dollar bonus and he's been retired for 10 years. Even if he was an idiot he'd have to be worth more than that.

And the 60 million figure has basically been shat on over and again... Even if it was one time true, I bet TwoTwo motorsports caused a pretty big dent!
I'm pretty sure somebody brought this number up to Reed once on Pulp MX and he laughed making some joke about how he wished that site had accurate figures.

Figuring somebody's net worth you need their bank account balances, a valuation list of all of their assets along with cash on hand and a list of their outstanding debts to subtract. That's all very personal information so I'm not even sure these online lists can even be taken with a grain of salt.
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FARANG 2/5/2017 5:23pm
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I don't think he's underestimated. He's got a more conservative style, doesn't crash much, doesn't take too many chances. It's maybe not as exciting to watch as some others, but it's more effective over the course of a season.

He's also respectful off the track, no trash talking, no drama etc. Some people see that as boring. It doesn't mean they underestimate his ability though.

I fully expect him to win this year's title as well.
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tyler durden 2/5/2017 5:27pm
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it's like boxing.

ppl want to see a KTFO, not a TKO. human nature.
1st Amendment 2/5/2017 5:44pm
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RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets be real here. JS7 was handling him on the 09 Yamaha and on the Suzuki as well. Same goes with Reed on the Honda and Dungey on the Suzuki.If you don't think RV benefited from all the others bike and team changes you're a fool.
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1st Amendment wrote:
RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets...
RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets be real here. JS7 was handling him on the 09 Yamaha and on the Suzuki as well. Same goes with Reed on the Honda and Dungey on the Suzuki.If you don't think RV benefited from all the others bike and team changes you're a fool.
That's some revisionist history.
1st Amendment 2/5/2017 5:52pm
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RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets...
RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets be real here. JS7 was handling him on the 09 Yamaha and on the Suzuki as well. Same goes with Reed on the Honda and Dungey on the Suzuki.If you don't think RV benefited from all the others bike and team changes you're a fool.
Crush wrote:
That's some revisionist history.
You think RV wins all those titles on that Yamaha 10 and up?
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It's simple, Dungey is FAST. The difference between he and Tomac or Roczen is that he chooses to back er down a click more often than they do. On top of that, he has a style that hides aggression. I can't tell you how many times I have watched him ride smooooooth as silk and see his name go to the top of the lap time chart. All the while I was thinking he better pick up the pace if he wants to compete. Last night he was slower in the qualifiers though. Webb threw down the fastest qualifying heater by about 2.5 seconds over 8th fastest qualifier Dungey. If you didn't know Dungey, you may think he was going to get SMOKED in the main. He and Webb started up front in the main and RD inched away. The dude is a professional. That said, I was in Oakland last night and Tomac was sure exciting to watch. I also like how Webb nailed that rhythm while trying to fight off Tomac. My thought is that RD will respond to Tomac's speed when he has too. Will his response be enough? He has succeeded with the last 2 championships but each year is different. I'm still not betting against him though. Oh, and one more argument about him being slow... How many races did he "win" last year? Fastest qualifying times were also pretty frequent but that doesn't mean much when there is only a couple of tenths separating these guys.
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gnarwhip 2/5/2017 8:51pm
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Villopoto and J Law beat Dungey for sx titles. Villopoto did it four times in the 450 sx class. Good night.
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UpTiTe wrote:
How can anybody that knows anything about Motocross or Supercross say that Dungey is a boring? He works relentlessly at his trade and is very good...
How can anybody that knows anything about Motocross or Supercross say that Dungey is a boring?

He works relentlessly at his trade and is very good at it, just because you don't see Flash in it is absolutely stupid.
Not sure I agree with too much UpTiTe ever says, JK dude. he smoked it. How can anyone not admire this dude's work ethic and relentless drive to win . This dude has set an example that everyone in every field can follow. Dung is a blue coller work horse. I want my kids to follow his lead. If you want it work hard. How can anyone bust on this guy. He works , earned all of his success.

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Crush 2/5/2017 9:37pm
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1st Amendment wrote:
RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets...
RV benefited off two guys going to bikes that were in the development stages and nobody really wanted to ride. RV's a bad dude but lets be real here. JS7 was handling him on the 09 Yamaha and on the Suzuki as well. Same goes with Reed on the Honda and Dungey on the Suzuki.If you don't think RV benefited from all the others bike and team changes you're a fool.
Crush wrote:
That's some revisionist history.
1st Amendment wrote:
You think RV wins all those titles on that Yamaha 10 and up?
Well if you want to use RV's first year in 09 and also call 2013 and 2014 years that Suzuki James "handled" RV whilst RV stomped out those titles... that's cool.

I'll give you 2010-2012 Yamaha and 2012-14 KTM as maybe not their best bike, but RD won when RV wasn't there.. James crashed out on every bike!

RD's 2010-2011 Suzuki seasons, Reed's 11-12 Honda seasons and James' 2012-to current Suzuki seasons.... Well... Nothing wrong with those, not at all.

1st Amendment 2/5/2017 9:59pm
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Crush wrote:
That's some revisionist history.
1st Amendment wrote:
You think RV wins all those titles on that Yamaha 10 and up?
Crush wrote:
Well if you want to use RV's first year in 09 and also call 2013 and 2014 years that Suzuki James "handled" RV whilst RV stomped...
Well if you want to use RV's first year in 09 and also call 2013 and 2014 years that Suzuki James "handled" RV whilst RV stomped out those titles... that's cool.

I'll give you 2010-2012 Yamaha and 2012-14 KTM as maybe not their best bike, but RD won when RV wasn't there.. James crashed out on every bike!

RD's 2010-2011 Suzuki seasons, Reed's 11-12 Honda seasons and James' 2012-to current Suzuki seasons.... Well... Nothing wrong with those, not at all.

I asked you if you think RV would of won his titles on that Yamaha?
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I think you confuse under estimating Dungey with him being considered boring. I dont think anyone under estimates him. A lot of people consider him boring.
The typical racers mentality is win. Win or bust. Do anything and everything you have to do to win the race. That is not Dungeys strategy. He will run his pace and settle for a podium spot. It goes against a racers logic. In a racers mind, he is supposed to do everything he can to win every Saturday. And he doesnt do that. That isnt under estimating him, its not understanding him
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Someone else needs to step up and take points away from Dungey! If Eli can keep winning or atleast make podiums the other high paid riders need to step up and I say this because some of them seem to pull over or let Dungey by when he is behind them! I like how Baggett passed Dungey back in the heat race that's the kind of riding all the guys need to do make him earn it.I am not a pro but these guys are to soft on Dungey they need to make him race for positions if I'm 7th and Dungey is 8th no way in hell I'm moving out of the race line so he can pass me! Make him change up his lines I see alot of high paid riders not put up much of a fight with Dungey! They aren't getting paid to just fill the gate and ride around the track.
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1st Amendment wrote:
You think RV wins all those titles on that Yamaha 10 and up?
Crush wrote:
Well if you want to use RV's first year in 09 and also call 2013 and 2014 years that Suzuki James "handled" RV whilst RV stomped...
Well if you want to use RV's first year in 09 and also call 2013 and 2014 years that Suzuki James "handled" RV whilst RV stomped out those titles... that's cool.

I'll give you 2010-2012 Yamaha and 2012-14 KTM as maybe not their best bike, but RD won when RV wasn't there.. James crashed out on every bike!

RD's 2010-2011 Suzuki seasons, Reed's 11-12 Honda seasons and James' 2012-to current Suzuki seasons.... Well... Nothing wrong with those, not at all.

1st Amendment wrote:
I asked you if you think RV would of won his titles on that Yamaha?
Sure. Why not?
2WheelsForTheMasses 2/6/2017 7:42am
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For anyone who thinks Dungey is boring is living in a boring world themselves!!

Dungey is a serious badass and has stepped up his game at every challenge that has come along...what's not to like? Because he chooses to not triple quad?? It's called not being stupid when you're in the points lead while sitting in 2nd place. Dungey knows when to back it down which I would call mental fortitude. Something a lot of other riders could learn from
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Bultaco 2/6/2017 9:44am
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MX-LIFE. wrote:
Someone else needs to step up and take points away from Dungey! If Eli can keep winning or atleast make podiums the other high paid riders...
Someone else needs to step up and take points away from Dungey! If Eli can keep winning or atleast make podiums the other high paid riders need to step up and I say this because some of them seem to pull over or let Dungey by when he is behind them! I like how Baggett passed Dungey back in the heat race that's the kind of riding all the guys need to do make him earn it.I am not a pro but these guys are to soft on Dungey they need to make him race for positions if I'm 7th and Dungey is 8th no way in hell I'm moving out of the race line so he can pass me! Make him change up his lines I see alot of high paid riders not put up much of a fight with Dungey! They aren't getting paid to just fill the gate and ride around the track.
Some racers do what they so smoothly that spectators start thinking the racer is not trying. Or the spectator themselves could ride faster. Dungey is that type of racer.
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gnarwhip wrote:
Oh, and Jason Lawrence won the 2008 West Coast 250 sx title. Dungey finished 2nd.
Tell me one thing, if you had to go into battle would you want him with you?
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CrGuy2T 2/11/2017 5:53pm
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1st Amendment 2/11/2017 6:01pm
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It appears JLaw is still in Dungeys head
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brimx153 2/11/2017 6:33pm
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Aw that dungey is just "lucky again" lol

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