Dear Steve Matthes, are you mad, Bro?

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I take part in some of the largest forums onine and have for years, that have member counts in the hundreds of thousands. No one acts...

I take part in some of the largest forums onine and have for years, that have member counts in the hundreds of thousands.

No one acts like they do here, No one.

No other place even allows it to get like this. . . and you guys have gotten so lost in it you think it's normal.

95 % of the people here are chill as fuck, but that 5% who go full retard on a constant basis have branded the name Vitard. IT's become cool almost. The hip thing to be.

I've really been questioning why this sport stays so isolated and has never truly broken out into the mainstream, there are so many reasons and influences that could answer that question, but the more I take a step back and look at it all it makes sense.

Titan1 wrote:

Aren't you the dude that said you started a high end car detailing business...and when asked for specifics said you didn't have any decision making authority...

Aren't you the dude that said you started a high end car detailing business...and when asked for specifics said you didn't have any decision making authority (in the company you started)...and then it came out that you only do the website design for the company?

That was you, right?

So you are talking down on everyone here...lol

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a...

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a job from overseas,

Looks like I'm doing a lot better than you in life though, don't get too triggered by the facts.

bd wrote:

Dungeon - majority of this thread is garbage. Pulp MX is good people. Team Green is good people. End of Story!

Titan1 wrote:

Aren't you the dude that said you started a high end car detailing business...and when asked for specifics said you didn't have any decision making authority...

Aren't you the dude that said you started a high end car detailing business...and when asked for specifics said you didn't have any decision making authority (in the company you started)...and then it came out that you only do the website design for the company?

That was you, right?

So you are talking down on everyone here...lol

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a...

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a job from overseas,

Looks like I'm doing a lot better than you in life though, don't get too triggered by the facts.

Titan1 wrote:

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come...

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come to find out you don't own the company and you were really just a secretary. You got called on your lie and disappeared from the thread...now you are back tracking.

bd wrote:

Dungeon - majority of this thread is garbage. Pulp MX is good people. Team Green is good people. End of Story!

Starcrossed wrote:

Nice avatar

DYE wrote:

You need to chill out bro, seriously. Just pointing out that you are talking down to people like they are a lowlife pos and you are...

You need to chill out bro, seriously. Just pointing out that you are talking down to people like they are a lowlife pos and you are so successful/powerful, or whatever you're trying to portray. Yet you refer to yourself as the asshat kid who plays secretary to the owner? I don't know you but it appears you have some serious self esteem issues needs resolved. As you can see by my low post count I don't get involved in this bs much so I'm gonna leave it at that. Have a goodnight

Edit: just saw you called out what I do. I'm a measly teacher that tries to improve the lives of kids in my community. Maybe I don't creat jobs or make a lot of money, but I'm happy with what I do for a living.

bd wrote:

Like wise! So damm happy my "club" signed Roczen!

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a...

I don't make any decisions in the company we sold, I ran day to day business, not hire or fire when some clown asked for a job from overseas,

Looks like I'm doing a lot better than you in life though, don't get too triggered by the facts.

Titan1 wrote:

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come...

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come to find out you don't own the company and you were really just a secretary. You got called on your lie and disappeared from the thread...now you are back tracking.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What...

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What have you got to show for it but a struggle till you die? How's that ford/chevy/dodge/toyota you drive?

Disappeared? I actually have shit to do, not " defend. " myself online from keyboard warriors.

It seems like your total value in existence comes from being somebody online.

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think that the only thing missing here are some pros kick starting their bikes in mid air.........

Titan1 wrote:

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come...

Lol...you, just like now, were talking a big game about how you owned the company, made all this money, drove fancy cars etc etc...then we come to find out you don't own the company and you were really just a secretary. You got called on your lie and disappeared from the thread...now you are back tracking.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What...

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What have you got to show for it but a struggle till you die? How's that ford/chevy/dodge/toyota you drive?

Disappeared? I actually have shit to do, not " defend. " myself online from keyboard warriors.

It seems like your total value in existence comes from being somebody online.

Titan1 wrote:

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money...

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money to drive the cars you claim to drive and have all the money you claim to have...and if it was your idea and you ran it day to day...why wouldn't you just invest your own money in the business and do it on your own? What value does the owner bring? Sorry dude, your story doesn't add up.

I don't need validation from people online by posting the cars I drive, or how much money I make. I don't care what you think of me, and have no need to prove anything to you. That's you...you need the validation, and you care what people online think about you (and that's sad for you).

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What...

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What have you got to show for it but a struggle till you die? How's that ford/chevy/dodge/toyota you drive?

Disappeared? I actually have shit to do, not " defend. " myself online from keyboard warriors.

It seems like your total value in existence comes from being somebody online.

Titan1 wrote:

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money...

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money to drive the cars you claim to drive and have all the money you claim to have...and if it was your idea and you ran it day to day...why wouldn't you just invest your own money in the business and do it on your own? What value does the owner bring? Sorry dude, your story doesn't add up.

I don't need validation from people online by posting the cars I drive, or how much money I make. I don't care what you think of me, and have no need to prove anything to you. That's you...you need the validation, and you care what people online think about you (and that's sad for you).

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand.................. I'm...

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand..................

I'm somehow less for employing an investor who had the ability to utilize their success in life to create more success?

Asshat secretary is a term because I joke about how little I actually have to " Work. "

Have you ever felt that a certain task is below you or not worth your time in terms of hassle? Anything? Ever delegate or relinquish a responsibility to another for your own benefit and peace of mind? I'm glad as fuck to let someone in management or an owner make decisions on staff, or branding, color scheme, location etc if it's something I won't have to deal with.

The ability to run something top down is one thing. The necessity of it is another.

Why do you think major corporations have the structure they do in management? Delegating responsibility and compartmentalizing tasks makes everyone's life easier and more successful if done properly, employing peoples specific talents as an advantage.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

and you're totally missing my point. I'm here to clown people who can't even focus on what we all love and care to talk about, sidetracked...

and you're totally missing my point. I'm here to clown people who can't even focus on what we all love and care to talk about, sidetracked by the incentive to put others down and detract from the overall value / experience of using a forum to discuss,learn about and ultimately enjoy our sport through positive, engaging discussion.

Clown the Clowns.

Bully the bullies,

Fuck with people who fuck with people.

It's hilarious.

Titan1 wrote:

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money...

So you created it, managed the day to day...but didn't hire people and are really just the secretary of the owner? If you've got enough money to drive the cars you claim to drive and have all the money you claim to have...and if it was your idea and you ran it day to day...why wouldn't you just invest your own money in the business and do it on your own? What value does the owner bring? Sorry dude, your story doesn't add up.

I don't need validation from people online by posting the cars I drive, or how much money I make. I don't care what you think of me, and have no need to prove anything to you. That's you...you need the validation, and you care what people online think about you (and that's sad for you).

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand.................. I'm...

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand..................

I'm somehow less for employing an investor who had the ability to utilize their success in life to create more success?

Asshat secretary is a term because I joke about how little I actually have to " Work. "

Have you ever felt that a certain task is below you or not worth your time in terms of hassle? Anything? Ever delegate or relinquish a responsibility to another for your own benefit and peace of mind? I'm glad as fuck to let someone in management or an owner make decisions on staff, or branding, color scheme, location etc if it's something I won't have to deal with.

The ability to run something top down is one thing. The necessity of it is another.

Why do you think major corporations have the structure they do in management? Delegating responsibility and compartmentalizing tasks makes everyone's life easier and more successful if done properly, employing peoples specific talents as an advantage.

Titan1 wrote:

So you got your money when you sold the company?

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think that the only thing missing here are some pros kick starting their bikes in mid air.........

Titan1 wrote:

Maybe some asians...Gwen Stephani...and some files to look in. Lol

Oh, and snowmobiles. Hehe

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand.................. I'm...

Where the fuck does money to start a business come from straight out of school? Office, vans, marketing, web hosting, design alone is 10 grand..................

I'm somehow less for employing an investor who had the ability to utilize their success in life to create more success?

Asshat secretary is a term because I joke about how little I actually have to " Work. "

Have you ever felt that a certain task is below you or not worth your time in terms of hassle? Anything? Ever delegate or relinquish a responsibility to another for your own benefit and peace of mind? I'm glad as fuck to let someone in management or an owner make decisions on staff, or branding, color scheme, location etc if it's something I won't have to deal with.

The ability to run something top down is one thing. The necessity of it is another.

Why do you think major corporations have the structure they do in management? Delegating responsibility and compartmentalizing tasks makes everyone's life easier and more successful if done properly, employing peoples specific talents as an advantage.

Titan1 wrote:

So you got your money when you sold the company?

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

No, that's going back into a new idea. I want to create jobs on a widescale basis and actually create economic activity and opportunity that can...

No, that's going back into a new idea. I want to create jobs on a widescale basis and actually create economic activity and opportunity that can create meaningful change in people's lives by focusing on a more essential service that can be successful in any market, not just a luxury market where non essential expenditures aren't a problem like the dfw area.

APLMAN99 wrote:

I think that the only thing missing here are some pros kick starting their bikes in mid air.........

Titan1 wrote:

Maybe some asians...Gwen Stephani...and some files to look in. Lol

Oh, and snowmobiles. Hehe

APLMAN99 wrote:

Makes sense, doesn't it?

peelout wrote:

found a Ridgeline owner

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

and you're totally missing my point. I'm here to clown people who can't even focus on what we all love and care to talk about, sidetracked...

and you're totally missing my point. I'm here to clown people who can't even focus on what we all love and care to talk about, sidetracked by the incentive to put others down and detract from the overall value / experience of using a forum to discuss,learn about and ultimately enjoy our sport through positive, engaging discussion.

Clown the Clowns.

Bully the bullies,

Fuck with people who fuck with people.

It's hilarious.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

No, that's going back into a new idea. I want to create jobs on a widescale basis and actually create economic activity and opportunity that can...

No, that's going back into a new idea. I want to create jobs on a widescale basis and actually create economic activity and opportunity that can create meaningful change in people's lives by focusing on a more essential service that can be successful in any market, not just a luxury market where non essential expenditures aren't a problem like the dfw area.

Titan1 wrote:

So you started the company right out of school...had no money so you got an investor to cover the start up...and you said you sold that...

So you started the company right out of school...had no money so you got an investor to cover the start up...and you said you sold that company...but that isn't where you got your money (which actually makes sense, since you didn't actually own that company-otherwise you'd call the investor a partner or an investor rather than "the owner"-and if you didn't own any of the company then you wouldn't make any money when it was sold).

Are you a trust fund baby or something?

Still, your story doesn't add up.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I am just an asshat kid who plays secretary, for a company that came from my idea and motive. I love talking down to fucking idiots...

I am just an asshat kid who plays secretary, for a company that came from my idea and motive. I love talking down to fucking idiots because at the end of the day they'll still be fucking idiots spending all their free time in life posting on vital mx creating pointless drama because they have nothing else better to do with their time, '

Nothings funnier than watching you guys get triggered because your mental capacity to handle a simple discussion without turning into something retarded ass school yard kids would on any given recess.

at least you could put in the effort to make this place great in some aspect, in depth discussion, introspective back and forth, share your passions, ideas and beliefs, not turn everything into a personal attack and total fucking clownery.

20,000 views and 10 pages because someone got butthurt.

Steve called out team green as being a total industry douche / shill. How is he wrong?

He then took the bait and wound up here,

You guys deserve to be talked down to maybe you'll realize how petty this all is and pointless.

is this a forum about a sport or hurt vagina counseling center for offended industry " insiders. " and bro's?

Steve's done more in the sport and for the sport than most ever will.

robkinuk wrote:

Can someone send me some cliff notes on this thread?

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What...

I created the company, not own it. Managed day to day, not hired staff, you're pretty fucking butthurt, what do you do for a living? What have you got to show for it but a struggle till you die? How's that ford/chevy/dodge/toyota you drive?

Disappeared? I actually have shit to do, not " defend. " myself online from keyboard warriors.

It seems like your total value in existence comes from being somebody online.

mx317 wrote:

I really love when Midwest_Mafia said "he employed an investor" for "HIS" business that someone else paid for.

Midwest_Mafia wrote:

I drive a 2016 crv most days on errands and short trips. 0 Fucks, if your car makes you who you are then you need to...

I drive a 2016 crv most days on errands and short trips.

0 Fucks, if your car makes you who you are then you need to do some work on your self worth and image, leave the nice shit at home, safe, from the car doors and shopping carts of the world.

or the occasional drunk college bitches who think it's cool to lay on them and take a selfie for the gram since they'll never get anywhere near that in their own lives. AYE.