So. What happened to bowers?

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I did not expect the guy to win but I expected much more out of the guy. Would be curious to hear what happened. Dude is better then that.
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cable 1/7/2017 10:06pm
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190 lbs on 250f. His bike looked slow
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cable wrote:
190 lbs on 250f. His bike looked slow
Ron Lechien on a 125 didn't go slow.
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Mia 1/7/2017 10:16pm
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It appeared his bike had a hard time making triples out of corners.

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djc 1/7/2017 10:32pm
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Lol. The only thing I saw at one point his bike looked a little stiff or twitchy. But still.............
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MX-LIFE. 1/7/2017 10:58pm
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cable wrote:
190 lbs on 250f. His bike looked slow
I thought that to
bartziokas123 1/8/2017 1:34am
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I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
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Motofinne 1/8/2017 1:40am
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bartziokas123 wrote:
I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
I thought that as long as a rider is on a Yamaha 250 the bike would not be a problem.... haha.

No but seriously. Who knows what the problem was, that was not good at all. Worse than last year? I guess Mitch did the right thing?

But it was the first race. Things can only get better.

Edit: I just checked the last years opener result, 8th in Atlanta. And the worst race of the season for Bowers was in Toronto were he got 11th.
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joe412 1/8/2017 6:51am
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Bike looked awful. Forkner passed him like he was standing still. He wasn't trippling anything. Should have taken a factory ride but his ego got in the way. Back to AX next year
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Mia 1/8/2017 7:52am
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I don't think it was ego, just probably trying to pay the bills. I don't think that monster girl gig pays as well as people would expect.
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Not good enough. He always talks like he is one of the top guys, but had one good season. He finished about where I expected.
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mx836 wrote:
Not good enough. He always talks like he is one of the top guys, but had one good season. He finished about where I expected.
I feel the same way.
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After PC guys passed him.. looked like white towel in air.. Maybe pace was too high for his current shape.
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bartziokas123 wrote:
I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the money is. I like bowers and hopefully he can rebound next week.
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mx836 wrote:
Not good enough. He always talks like he is one of the top guys, but had one good season. He finished about where I expected.
I agree. And after hearing him on Pulp I thought the exact same thing.
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Motofinne 1/8/2017 8:40am
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bartziokas123 wrote:
I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
Mx286 wrote:
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the...
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the money is. I like bowers and hopefully he can rebound next week.
Didn't he say on the PulpMX show that he had an opportunity to go to TLD, or that he had some negotiation with them? But the money wasn't enough for him.

I can't remember witch show it was but probably the latest one that he was in studio for.
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mx836 1/8/2017 8:49am
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bartziokas123 wrote:
I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
Mx286 wrote:
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the...
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the money is. I like bowers and hopefully he can rebound next week.
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Didn't he say on the PulpMX show that he had an opportunity to go to TLD, or that he had some negotiation with them? But the...
Didn't he say on the PulpMX show that he had an opportunity to go to TLD, or that he had some negotiation with them? But the money wasn't enough for him.

I can't remember witch show it was but probably the latest one that he was in studio for.
Yes, TLD and another "factory" team that I can't recall both made him an offer to ride with no salary, which he refused. It was discussed on Pulp.

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Star Racing I think and then they went for Reardon I believe.
bartziokas123 1/8/2017 10:07am
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Yeah he blew it. If he really was confident in his ability he would have taken the factor bike and made bank in bonuses.
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mx836 wrote:
Not good enough. He always talks like he is one of the top guys, but had one good season. He finished about where I expected.
Yep! They way he acted on pulp very unprofessional

Interesting enough Matthes will talk him up but be little Davalos bowers ain't that far off a davalos yes his had the AX titles but dude should give the 450 a crack! He may be to tall for 250
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Is Bowers finally over his back issues and healthy?
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Mx286 wrote:
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the...
He was offered the ride with no salary at all just ride for free type of deal. I don't blame him though, gotta go where the money is. I like bowers and hopefully he can rebound next week.
Motofinne wrote:
Didn't he say on the PulpMX show that he had an opportunity to go to TLD, or that he had some negotiation with them? But the...
Didn't he say on the PulpMX show that he had an opportunity to go to TLD, or that he had some negotiation with them? But the money wasn't enough for him.

I can't remember witch show it was but probably the latest one that he was in studio for.
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Yes, TLD and another "factory" team that I can't recall both made him an offer to ride with no salary, which he refused. It was discussed...
Yes, TLD and another "factory" team that I can't recall both made him an offer to ride with no salary, which he refused. It was discussed on Pulp.
Pretty sure that you're totally mistaken here. From what I remember, during the impromptu "negotiations" that Matthes had with Top Jimmy over a ride for Bowers, Steve said that "they" would take the ride for something like 40-50K plus bonuses for supercross only and Bowers and his wife both gawked at the number because they said it was way too low. Thereafter, Bowers said that he had already turned down a nearly identical offer for a ride from TLD because it was too little. For the sake of reference, the show number for the episode was 268.
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bartziokas123 wrote:
Yeah he blew it. If he really was confident in his ability he would have taken the factor bike and made bank in bonuses.
Or maybe you just take the sure bet?
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zehn wrote:
Or maybe you just take the sure bet?
The only sure bet is those factory teams are not going to come calling next year and Matthes will still be on his junk
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hvaughn88 1/8/2017 5:51pm
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Perhaps I'm in the minority, but I actually kinda like that he turned down the lower salary (if that's the case). Riders are never going to get paid more if everyone keeps riding for little to no salary
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bartziokas123 wrote:
I can tell you what happened. He passed on the factory bike because the salary was to low and took the pay day with bad equipment.
It's not the bike
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Motofinne 1/8/2017 11:01pm
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race wrote:
Is Bowers finally over his back issues and healthy?
Yes. According to himself, he is fine(PulpMX show 268).
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Arm pump city!!!!
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C_Class_Hero wrote:
Pretty sure that you're totally mistaken here. From what I remember, during the impromptu "negotiations" that Matthes had with Top Jimmy over a ride for Bowers...
Pretty sure that you're totally mistaken here. From what I remember, during the impromptu "negotiations" that Matthes had with Top Jimmy over a ride for Bowers, Steve said that "they" would take the ride for something like 40-50K plus bonuses for supercross only and Bowers and his wife both gawked at the number because they said it was way too low. Thereafter, Bowers said that he had already turned down a nearly identical offer for a ride from TLD because it was too little. For the sake of reference, the show number for the episode was 268.
What am I totally mistaken on? They offered him a small salary?

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