Will we ever get a real MX game?

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Radical wrote:
I've developed video games for a living for most of the last 25 years. At 750k copies, all of the tracks can be licensed. It's a...
I've developed video games for a living for most of the last 25 years. At 750k copies, all of the tracks can be licensed.
It's a matter of putting together the right team and getting the project approved.

I've pitched MX games to almost every company I've worked for, and unfortunately have not succeeded in getting approval, and budget.

It's ridiculous that there isn't a game with a good career mode (I haven't checked out MX Sim lately). Creating the game play and physics are by far the hardest part of developing a game. The seasons are easy.
Interesting, thanks for the insight.

The 750k copies was just a number I threw out there, and I'm not completely sure they even get close to that amount. It's pretty hard to find accurate data for MX game sales. Sites like VGChartz have data, but it's not super reliable especially for smaller games.

MX Simulator is probably the easiest to track due to the UID system, and I believe there are around 25,000 UIDs at this point (so give or take 25,000 copies sold). But it's a game that has little-to-no paid advertising and is only for PC, so it's not that comparable to games that Milestone and Rainbow are making.

Also, MX Sim doesn't have much of a single player career mode. You can build a "career" in online racing, though.
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I enjoy Reflex on pc with all its cool custom tracks which are amazing but lack of a season points mode and untrained AI take it down a lot as I don't play online. EA Supercross 2000 is still a favorite as well. I appreciate Sim but it doesn't really do it for me as I like recreating the season with the pros like you would do in Madden, for example.

But honestly if you are comparing it to what other sports game franchises have...season mode, career mode, full license, all the real teams and riders, and a pretty decent AI to play against in season or career mode...the only game to even come close to the likes of the Maddens, NBA2K, etc is MXGP 2.

Despite its shortcomings, if we had the equivalent of MXGP 2 for Lucas Oil Motocross or Monster Energy Supercross then I would be more than satisfied. Our sport is small but I'm still shocked no one has stepped up and made it. the last fully mx/sx licensed.game was back in 2001 from EA.
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I play mxsim nightly

-- dboivin--
the tracks are still released, just delayed for free.. and that is only the rf team that charges for tracks, you can still download all the tracks that end up in 802 from http://tmfactory-racing.com/
i love their site

--Melton--
as for spec's im playing mx sim on ultra currently and my pc specs are as follows:
- I5- 4670k
- Nividia geforce 1060 3gig
- 32-gigs of ram
- mobo z87-k

To answer the original op question, if i was millionaire i would not start a sx team.. i would build that game for the consoles but since im not a millionaire i stick with mx sim.. because as the market stands right now this is the closes we will ever get, to having what we want in a moto game.

I wish, risenberg or ron ron or somebody from the gaming community could explain why it is impossible to have a game like mxsim on consoles... or like a road to supercross.
it honestly cannot be that expensive because the sport is small.

EA has the money, but would probably fuck up the release in a major way or something lol.
Milestone wont get the licenses based on the strength they're euros

The only Beacon of hope i say from a developer would be Codemasters
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Codemasters is British however.

I'm going to buy MXSim tonight. I've been holding out for no good reason.

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Seems like everyone I know have been wanting a real sx/mx game with a realistic career mode and real tracks! I mean in NCAA 14 when...
Seems like everyone I know have been wanting a real sx/mx game with a realistic career mode and real tracks! I mean in NCAA 14 when you start your career mode you play your high school playoffs then select a college to go to depending on how good you play. Why cant we get a MX career mode where you race Loretta's race sign with a team, and do your 250 career and get sponsors depending on how good you are and all that. Didnt MTX Mototrax have a career mode where you got sponsors and moved up to better teams? Seems like everyone has been wanting a game like this for years, how do these developers not realize this, why cant they get like last years tracks layouts and all that and put it in a game? What do you guys think? BTW i know MXGP has a good career mode and stuff but I want the US series not the GP series!
Build a gaming PC if you want a good moto gaming experience. You won't find it on a console and probably never will. Those games are made for the masses and will never target the aspects that moto heads are looking for. People have been bitching about the same stuff for 13 years since MX Unleashed came out, but still, THQ and Nordic can't seem to deliver.
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I've been having lots of fun on Mx vs Atv: Reflex lately. If you have the PC version you can get allot of skins & tracks...
I've been having lots of fun on Mx vs Atv: Reflex lately. If you have the PC version you can get allot of skins & tracks over at http://reflex-central.com/



This is the Glen Helen replica for the game. I've been having lots of fun on this track!
I think I'm going to invest in Reflex for pc. We still play the Xbox version all the time. I just want more tracks.
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MXGP2 in first person view with the pro physics, no assists, and manual transmission is the best moto game. I wish MX Sports had a similar game made to promote the Pro Motocross Championship or Feld for Supercross.
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To put it simply, the market isn't big enough to catch any major game studios attention.

Skateboarding's popularity far outweighs moto's and everyone's dropped that as the years have passed, major sports and shooters / are where the $ is.... Sadly.

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JB 19 wrote:
I think I'm going to invest in Reflex for pc. We still play the Xbox version all the time. I just want more tracks.
This is what I did. I used to play Reflex on the Xbox 360, you can now play it on the Xbox One. I bought it on PC for the custom tracks. I also have Supercross Encore on PC but I'm buying it on Xbox One soon for the muliplayer as its dead on PC.
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12/1/2016 4:17pm
kott0n wrote:
Does it still have the built in whip animations though? That kills my flow.
Yeah but you're in first person. It doesn't matter. You can't see the whips anyways.
12/1/2016 4:32pm
JB 19 wrote:
I think I'm going to invest in Reflex for pc. We still play the Xbox version all the time. I just want more tracks.
For sure look into it! The game is super cheap on steam. Especially when it's on sale during hollidays. The pc version has a big big amount of custom tracks and skins. It's a little bit technicall to get them working but simply following a guide and being able to move / unzip files and you'll be fine.

There is some really great tracks on Reflex-Central. This is a quick lap i recorded to show the Southwick 2016 national track to a friend.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdAzL35T-MU&t=16s

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Mx simulator is developed by one guy, which is a big reason that it isn't on consoles. He is constantly releasing small coding updates, and has released 10 major updates since the original release of the game.

Ive been a part of the community since 2008, in the alpha phase. My user ID is 8 haha. To see how far the game has come since then, is absolutely mind blowing.

To me this biggest draw, is that it has full customization ability. From the minute you purchase it, you have the ability to create fully custom tracks, bike models, bike graphics, rider graphics, rider models. Literally anything you want, provided you have the knowledge. And if not, you can go onto the forum and download, for free, a multitude off all of the things I just mentioned. If you want to ride the 2016 version of Glen Helen on a Ryan Dungey replica KTM 450, you can. It really is the most extensive Mx game on the market.
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MX Simulator, doesn't have the career your looking for but IMO best MX game.

https://youtu.be/ZmV1xH0kIKk
it does have the career, you just do it against other real life players as well lol in the racefactory gaming outdoor and sx series
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MX Sim is impossible without endless hours of "playing". I want to like it but I get so frustrated with it. I paid the $40 for it and regret it.

Why can't he make a reset button. Or how a about let me drive in a straight line without going all over.
Gah!
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There was a supercross game for IBM compatible in the late 80's know idea what it was called anymore that was awesome with career mode i.e. If you crashed it would tell you you had injured yourself with injuries such as broken bones and you would miss a few rounds of the series. You would have to set up your bike for each track. I remember have to set up he gearing and suspension for the L.A. Coliseum just for one set of triples if it wasn't quite right you had no chance. Even got to pick your Favorit ride of the time. I always picked Erik Kehoe on his RM250. Never see a MX/SX with the same style game play science there are a few good ones but I guess remenissing on the childhood ones makes it just that little bit more fun.
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Number one MX game out there..... Mad Skills MX

Still hit up the weekly jam along with 100,000s of others each and ever week.

Week normally spent trying to beat JT$, he normally gets me by a fraction of a second 9 times out of 10

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I would rather put my time into actually riding than the video game.

People want realistic physics, scale and bikes/gear. They don't want to pick up the controller and look like a beginner. Playing a video game is fantasy. The user wants to experience what it is like to be Barcia, Rocen, Dungey etc. To launch off huge jumps and throw gnarly whips. They want to hit the biggest whoops pinned. A realistic career/season does add to the overall gameplay.

They can utilize the 6 axis gyroscopic control. I'm in the process of setting up my PS4 controller for MX vs ATV like this:
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tprice07 wrote:
I would rather put my time into actually riding than the video game. People want realistic physics, scale and bikes/gear. They don't want to pick up...
I would rather put my time into actually riding than the video game.

People want realistic physics, scale and bikes/gear. They don't want to pick up the controller and look like a beginner. Playing a video game is fantasy. The user wants to experience what it is like to be Barcia, Rocen, Dungey etc. To launch off huge jumps and throw gnarly whips. They want to hit the biggest whoops pinned. A realistic career/season does add to the overall gameplay.

They can utilize the 6 axis gyroscopic control. I'm in the process of setting up my PS4 controller for MX vs ATV like this:
How are physics realistic when you can just pick up the game and be fast right off the bat?

Just like every other simulation racing game a.k.a. realistic racing game you need to master it at first... just like in real life lmao.

If you say you want realistic but don't want to take the time and learn how to be good at it than you don't want realistic, you want arcade.Laughing
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MX Simulator, doesn't have the career your looking for but IMO best MX game.

https://youtu.be/ZmV1xH0kIKk
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[img]https://alicefiancet.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/4e414-make-it-stop.gif[/img]
Make what stop? He's talking about an offline career not online. Sure any MX game can have an online career all depends on how it's organized.
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MX sim looks really cool, I just hate playing games on PC.
12/3/2016 7:15am Edited Date/Time 12/3/2016 7:18am
MX Simulator, doesn't have the career your looking for but IMO best MX game.

https://youtu.be/ZmV1xH0kIKk
Europedude wrote:
[img]https://alicefiancet.files.wordpress.com/2014/07/4e414-make-it-stop.gif[/img]
Make what stop? He's talking about an offline career not online. Sure any MX game can have an online career all depends on how it's organized.
Music in that video made my ears bleeding.

Anyway. MX simulator is simulator, it's focused only on physics, graphics suck, sound sucks, vanilla version is nearly unplayable. Even with good gfx it's still too hard. It's easier to ride in real life, really.

I don't think we will ever see real mx game. But I can recommend MTX mototrax, I think thats the most enjoyable title, you have career, fmx, freeride (similar to tony hawk pro skater) and riding really feels fun.

I wasn't trying newer versions of MX vs. ATV but I bet it's still based on Motocross Madness 2 wild unrealistic physics.
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12/3/2016 8:44am
To me, it sounds like besides the whip animation MXGP 2 is the most realistic MX game for consoles. Paired with a good career mode and customization.
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Hoping MX vs ATV are working on an augmented reality game. Like a drastically-upscaled, ultra-powerful version you could view while sitting on a "game bike" of sorts. This will happen, imo, I just hope it's a lot sooner than later. I think people would pay $2000 or more for such a system if it was EXTREMELY realistic.
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you can adjust your graphic settings on sim, i play on a laptop so i have it turned down pretty low, i have buddys that looks like theyre watching a video of real life. and the racefactory gaming series is about the equivalent to real life ama.
sx series mimics identical to real life, same tracks, same day each week a few days after the real race. timed qualifying, top 40 make it in, top 9 out of each heat race, 4 out of the lcq. and 15 lap main for 250fs. heats, semis, lcq for 450 and 20 lap main....outdoors, same as real life. and competition level in pro, insane
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and if you dont want to take the time to learn to play, then play mad skills. your probly the same type of person that opted out for a quad, and had your training wheels on until you were 10
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12/3/2016 10:26am
tprice07 wrote:
I would rather put my time into actually riding than the video game. People want realistic physics, scale and bikes/gear. They don't want to pick up...
I would rather put my time into actually riding than the video game.

People want realistic physics, scale and bikes/gear. They don't want to pick up the controller and look like a beginner. Playing a video game is fantasy. The user wants to experience what it is like to be Barcia, Rocen, Dungey etc. To launch off huge jumps and throw gnarly whips. They want to hit the biggest whoops pinned. A realistic career/season does add to the overall gameplay.

They can utilize the 6 axis gyroscopic control. I'm in the process of setting up my PS4 controller for MX vs ATV like this:
NVA57 wrote:
How are physics realistic when you can just pick up the game and be fast right off the bat? Just like every other simulation racing game...
How are physics realistic when you can just pick up the game and be fast right off the bat?

Just like every other simulation racing game a.k.a. realistic racing game you need to master it at first... just like in real life lmao.

If you say you want realistic but don't want to take the time and learn how to be good at it than you don't want realistic, you want arcade.Laughing
Calm down.
12/3/2016 10:49am
Don't want to make it to realistic, most people would be sitting out trying to find a ride...

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