Where does Webbs performance at USGP rank all time?

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Watched second Moto last night from the USGP. At one point Webb was 11 seconds back on Herlings. Caught him and dropped him!

Where does that ride rank in all time single race or single moto performances of all time?

That race was truly incredible. What others do you have to add to the list?
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Didn't he start the moto in 19th?
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AB#81 9/6/2016 10:56am
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it was definitely impressive
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Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much deeper fields.

It isn't like returning from an injury and starting almost dead last in your first national back and taking the lead with several laps remaining.

Oh, and doing it on a 125 two stroke against a field of 250f machines. That was something I would consider almost epic.
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JustMX wrote:
Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much...
Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much deeper fields.

It isn't like returning from an injury and starting almost dead last in your first national back and taking the lead with several laps remaining.

Oh, and doing it on a 125 two stroke against a field of 250f machines. That was something I would consider almost epic.


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231 places behind Brandon's.
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JustMX wrote:
Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much...
Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much deeper fields.

It isn't like returning from an injury and starting almost dead last in your first national back and taking the lead with several laps remaining.

Oh, and doing it on a 125 two stroke against a field of 250f machines. That was something I would consider almost epic.
Like on a 125 smoker, racing against 500's on a hilly track, including the 500 World champ, and beating them. This ranks #1 for me.
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Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much...
Don't really think it was all that epic. It isn't even any more impressive than some of webbs rides this year in the nationals against much deeper fields.

It isn't like returning from an injury and starting almost dead last in your first national back and taking the lead with several laps remaining.

Oh, and doing it on a 125 two stroke against a field of 250f machines. That was something I would consider almost epic.
Really though if you think about it, how many guys passed Herlings straight up, let alone after a really bad start? That list has to be very short and Webb's name is on it.
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JQ 9/6/2016 11:34am
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It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
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TXDirt wrote:
Watched second Moto last night from the USGP. At one point Webb was 11 seconds back on Herlings. Caught him and dropped him! Where does that...
Watched second Moto last night from the USGP. At one point Webb was 11 seconds back on Herlings. Caught him and dropped him!

Where does that ride rank in all time single race or single moto performances of all time?

That race was truly incredible. What others do you have to add to the list?
I thought it was a tall order to come from behind like that in any pro motocross event with the talent these riders have. Let alone catch and pass a current world champion. I think it was a personal goal of Webb's to beat Herlings and you can be rest assured he has confidence now.

On another note I couldn't watch the race live but Mathis & Weege did a great job of calling the race via twitter on the RacerX account. Man I was refreshing my twitter feed like an 18yr old with a new Tinder account.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
Did you see him look back when he realized Webb was there ? I think he gave a shit . Still it's one race . I'd love to see those two go at it for a whole series.
Dirty Points 9/6/2016 11:58am
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It was 28th All-time. Nobody can dispute this undeniable fact.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
He said he gave both motos full 100% and was at 100%. Don't make yourself look like a fool Laughing
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JQ 9/6/2016 12:16pm
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I guess none of you have ever focused years on achieving something, and then actually achieving it. I stand by what I wrote.
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JQ wrote:
I guess none of you have ever focused years on achieving something, and then actually achieving it. I stand by what I wrote.
But then why would Webb's head be in it?
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It's amazing how even Herlings was kind of humble, impressed (by his own words) obviously wanted to win (according to his own words) and his fans just can't accept it!! (some of them)

C'mon already!!!
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JQ wrote:
I guess none of you have ever focused years on achieving something, and then actually achieving it. I stand by what I wrote.
You need to read what JH said and not go by what you feel....all three riders rode their asses off and I was impressed with all three...it was awesome to watch live.
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Davey 9/6/2016 12:41pm
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Sure, it was an impressive ride. I enjoy watching Cooper start at the back and race his way to the front. However, he isn't going to be able to start in the back of the pack every other race in the premier 450 class and win a championship.

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It was one of the great rides of all-time. It was much tougher than coming from behind to win a National, mainly because the track was super fast and fast tracks like that are not conducive to making up time. I think all three of those guys rode their hearts out and Herlings has only been back on a bike for a few weeks, with just one race under his belt.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
So when Webb won his title you don't think he wanted to win? Or when Kenny won his you don't think he wanted to win? JH wanted to win you think he wants to get beat by an American?
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Not as high as what Tomac did....
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Not as high as what Tomac did....
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It was good but I don't think it's up there with the greatest rides of all time, Webb had two advantages. It was under the lights, and it was the closest to a hometown race as he's ever had. The biggest part of what he did is the effect on Herlings fanboys, it proves that Herlings is not the once in a lifetime phenomenon they thought he was. I think overall our top guys and Herlings are pretty close. The rest of the guys in MX2 just aren't world class riders yet, I would imagine that with Herlings gone one or two will step up next year to that level. But I think the MX2 guys the last few years(with the exception of Gajser and Febvre) are defeated before they even line up, the same way our guys were with RC. If Herlings destroys the field at GH then maybe I'm wrong but I don't see that happening.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
Clinched the championship the first moto. Second moto, how much were you hanging it out there?
I just give 100 percent. I give 100 percent the first moto, I give 100 percent the second moto. I think first moto was just fastest and second moto I just wasn’t.

Read the rest of JH's thoughts here
http://racerxonline.com/2016/09/05/open-mic-mxgp-of-charlotte

The one thing this race does prove is that talent and hard work is not exclusive to one continent. Both series are pretty close in top speed.

I would say that i havent seen a race that showed as much heart as Cooper did in moto2 since Tomac Vs Roczen at mxdn 2013.

Alltime? Who knows...
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jeffro503 9/6/2016 1:13pm
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
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Laughing ok bud
Those are the exact words that popped into my head after I read his post. Jesus!
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JQ 9/6/2016 1:18pm
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
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So when Webb won his title you don't think he wanted to win? Or when Kenny won his you don't think he wanted to win? JH...
So when Webb won his title you don't think he wanted to win? Or when Kenny won his you don't think he wanted to win? JH wanted to win you think he wants to get beat by an American?
Of course they wanted to win. Do you judge Webb on his results just before and after winning the title? Because he didn't exactly go 1-1. Or do you look at the big picture? I think the same applies here.
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
I understand the basis of your argument; but in my opinion that theory doesn't hold much water in this particular situation. Herlings and Webb have very similar personas and both knew how hyped this race between them was. If anything, once Herlings wrapped up the title, he should have been even more focused on beating Cooper and putting an exclamation point on being the superior racer of the two. He had nothing to lose at that point.
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jeffro503 9/6/2016 1:40pm
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JQ wrote:
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit...
It was impressive, yes, but Herlings just won the world championship. There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game. So I wouldn't read too much into it.
TheOriginalPancakee wrote:
So when Webb won his title you don't think he wanted to win? Or when Kenny won his you don't think he wanted to win? JH...
So when Webb won his title you don't think he wanted to win? Or when Kenny won his you don't think he wanted to win? JH wanted to win you think he wants to get beat by an American?
JQ wrote:
Of course they wanted to win. Do you judge Webb on his results just before and after winning the title? Because he didn't exactly go 1-1...
Of course they wanted to win. Do you judge Webb on his results just before and after winning the title? Because he didn't exactly go 1-1. Or do you look at the big picture? I think the same applies here.
You said this about Herlings : " There is no way his head was in it to give enough of a shit to be at the top of his game "

Of course he was 100% in it! He even said those exact words , not only mentally but physically. It's right there is black and white. Him , Cooper and Austin rode their ass off 100% and gave it everything they had.

I keep seeing people saying that Jeffrey's cardio was down....from a collar bone break? You can't do cardio with a broken collar bone? Some of these guys get those thing plated and miss only one week. Jeffrey was out for almost 2 months , his cardio was and should have been great. Did he look tired at Assen? NO....no he didn't. So why would he get tired at NC?

You can stick by what you said.....it doesn't make it sound any less retarded.
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