Oh yes he did - KR air forks

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MXD 7/9/2016 11:55am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Geez with all this technology you think they could build a stabilizing blow-off one-way check valve that once air pressures reach a certain point at some...
Geez with all this technology you think they could build a stabilizing blow-off one-way check valve that once air pressures reach a certain point at some part of the travel or maybe is a linear set up that it would maintain consistent pressure they got to be at least using nitrogen right?
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One problem is when the system blows off. Some might simply say "He likes it at 32 PSI, make it blow off at 34PSI"... But the...
One problem is when the system blows off. Some might simply say "He likes it at 32 PSI, make it blow off at 34PSI"... But the pressure rises as the fork goes through the stroke and compresses the chamber (changing the volume)... so the number would have to based off bottoming or near bottoming.
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
Harry Backmon 7/9/2016 11:55am
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I could tell his forks were an issue. They were deflecting all over the place. If you didn't see it...pay closer attention.
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:58am
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MXD wrote:
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork...
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
There's been attempts... Nothing I've seen that's made it to real world testing...
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ML512 7/9/2016 11:59am
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Harry Backmon wrote:
I could tell his forks were an issue. They were deflecting all over the place. If you didn't see it...pay closer attention.
I'm not saying the setup wasn't there, I'm just pointing out his excuse of the components directly when setup decisions would have made this a non-issue.

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ML512 7/9/2016 12:00pm
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The one moto was a component failure (RCH's fauly) and the second moto which he just lost wasn't primarily the components fault, in my opinion.
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PTECH 7/9/2016 12:01pm
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Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented...
Waaaah! His forks didn't seem to be a problem for him at any of the other races this year... Is this the start of the patented Roczen second half of the season fade?
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Do you even follow motocross? He literally failed to finish a moto at GH because one part of his air forks went out (Yes i know...
Do you even follow motocross? He literally failed to finish a moto at GH because one part of his air forks went out (Yes i know that the RCH team put it on, not KYB, but still)
I cant tell if you're serious or you're trolling me? Yes, I saw when his fork lost pressure at glen helen. BTW he didn't "LITERALLY FAILED TO FINISH A MOTO," he finished that moto in fourth. Do you even follow motocross?
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PTECH 7/9/2016 12:02pm
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Harry Backmon wrote:
I could tell his forks were an issue. They were deflecting all over the place. If you didn't see it...pay closer attention.
Hell even my wife (and shes a dumb as a brick) could tell it was an issue!
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ML512 wrote:
Sarcasm alert* Cooper Webb's air forks sure looked like shit when he was running down on Jeremy Martin on spring forks there in that first moto...
Sarcasm alert* Cooper Webb's air forks sure looked like shit when he was running down on Jeremy Martin on spring forks there in that first moto... Laughing In all seriousness, Cooper was killing it in that moto...
Yeah but that POS stinkbug Yamaha chassis gets better when the air forks pump up because it helps balance out the bike... right???
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MXD 7/9/2016 12:03pm
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MXD wrote:
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork...
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
ML512 wrote:
There's been attempts... Nothing I've seen that's made it to real world testing...
I think it will be quite the game changer once they figure that out. Regardless, for us weekend warriors the air forks work perfectly. My vet B motos are 6 laps. My motos don't provide nearly enough time, enough speed or enough bumps for my forks to change. I get the argument that people don't want to mess with setting pressures but I actually prefer the adjustability. I really like mine.
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ML512 7/9/2016 12:11pm
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Yeah but that POS stinkbug Yamaha chassis gets better when the air forks pump up because it helps balance out the bike... right???
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Bruce372 7/9/2016 12:24pm
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Harry Backmon wrote:
I could tell his forks were an issue. They were deflecting all over the place. If you didn't see it...pay closer attention.
PTECH wrote:
Hell even my wife (and shes a dumb as a brick) could tell it was an issue!
Dumb as a brick....well, she married you lol
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crfby 7/9/2016 12:27pm
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Wana here it or not I like when a rider speaks his mind. He felt he could have went faster if the fork setting was better. Wish more riders would say the truth
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Bruce372 7/9/2016 12:31pm
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MXD wrote:
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork...
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
ML512 wrote:
There's been attempts... Nothing I've seen that's made it to real world testing...
MXD wrote:
I think it will be quite the game changer once they figure that out. Regardless, for us weekend warriors the air forks work perfectly. My vet...
I think it will be quite the game changer once they figure that out. Regardless, for us weekend warriors the air forks work perfectly. My vet B motos are 6 laps. My motos don't provide nearly enough time, enough speed or enough bumps for my forks to change. I get the argument that people don't want to mess with setting pressures but I actually prefer the adjustability. I really like mine.
There you go, someone who actually owns them and races them and likes them.

Verses all the whiners that read mxa and decided they are no good.
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Jimmy_Sloan 7/9/2016 12:32pm
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crfby wrote:
Wana here it or not I like when a rider speaks his mind. He felt he could have went faster if the fork setting was better...
Wana here it or not I like when a rider speaks his mind. He felt he could have went faster if the fork setting was better. Wish more riders would say the truth
Maybe Tomac did not have the perfect setting either. Why does it always default to Roczen when he loses? He (as well as some of his fans) need to man up and just say he lost.
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kx93rfo wrote:
In all Fairness the Forks L@@ked Awful like PoGo sticks at the End of the Race...
Im with you on this. I thought even when he got into the lead the bike he didn't look comfortable, no flow to his riding and just looked like he had to just try and man handle it everywhere. I expect the setup is just a bit off.
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Sodipop 7/9/2016 12:35pm
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Bruneval wrote:
Just bashed them hard: "got worse and worse as Moto went on".
I agree that I like it but to me, there was no way he was beating Tomac regardless so just say it.
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Prntscrn 7/9/2016 12:36pm
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Wasn't it obvious something was off with Kenny/his bike? No offence to Marvin but the way Kenny has rode this year Marvin hasn't even been close.
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PTECH 7/9/2016 12:40pm
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Harry Backmon wrote:
I could tell his forks were an issue. They were deflecting all over the place. If you didn't see it...pay closer attention.
PTECH wrote:
Hell even my wife (and shes a dumb as a brick) could tell it was an issue!
Bruce372 wrote:
Dumb as a brick....well, she married you lol
Hahaha. I'm just playing. I've read a lot of comments from dudes on here when they talk about something they saw when they were watching a race and they say 'even my wife saw." I always get a kick out of that. I'm not even married lol.

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Jimmy_Sloan 7/9/2016 12:40pm
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Prntscrn wrote:
Wasn't it obvious something was off with Kenny/his bike? No offence to Marvin but the way Kenny has rode this year Marvin hasn't even been close.
Kenny got beat, that's what was off.
johnnypotato123 7/9/2016 12:42pm
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Bikes never work good when you don't win, just ask Tomac.
Andy_Greenney 7/9/2016 1:06pm
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"And for the post race interviews it's over to the vitards" ...because who wants to hear what the riders have to say
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MXD wrote:
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork...
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
ML512 wrote:
There's been attempts... Nothing I've seen that's made it to real world testing...
A manual switch/cable to release pressure that the rider only hits when he goes over a triple (like pulling a tear-off)? Where do you have to bleed the pressure from? If its the top of the fork, that would be possible. Bottom left would also be okay and you could follow the brake line. Bottom right would not be as great.
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mxmasta 7/9/2016 1:14pm
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MXD wrote:
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork...
I'm sure they could design a blow off valve that locks closed while the fork is traveling through the stroke and only releases when the fork is completely unloaded.
ML512 wrote:
There's been attempts... Nothing I've seen that's made it to real world testing...
Berm wrote:
A manual switch/cable to release pressure that the rider only hits when he goes over a triple (like pulling a tear-off)? Where do you have to...
A manual switch/cable to release pressure that the rider only hits when he goes over a triple (like pulling a tear-off)? Where do you have to bleed the pressure from? If its the top of the fork, that would be possible. Bottom left would also be okay and you could follow the brake line. Bottom right would not be as great.
Sounds like this would be something like a $7 part...
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PTECH 7/9/2016 1:16pm
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Guess they must have put spring forks back on, moto 2 he looked pretty damn good.
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blackdiamond 7/9/2016 1:31pm
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ML512 wrote:
One other note: RCH had Showa spring forks on his bike during outdoors last year... Ken Roczen tested KYB's PSF1 forks during the off-season and asked...
One other note: RCH had Showa spring forks on his bike during outdoors last year... Ken Roczen tested KYB's PSF1 forks during the off-season and asked RCH to buy those for him...
Hey ML,

Kenny stated after the first moto that he "was one of few riders that wasn't running spring forks"

To my knowledge there are still more riders on air than springs but that is nothing more than a guess on my part. You typically know exactly what is going on with this type of stuff in the pro pits so I thought I would touch base.

What's the latest trend with the top guys?
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PJ205 7/9/2016 1:33pm
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These negative responses are classic.
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mw43 7/9/2016 1:35pm
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So many arm chair experts and trolls LMFAO. His comment was he started good and the shocks got bad over time - an observation for fading off the start. Funny thing is in most every podium interview for the big guns coming in 2nd and 3rd this year have been how their bike is not setup right to keep up with Kenny. Kenny and Tomac are way ahead of the rest of the field this year... To the OP and other people posting some of these comments - think about it, why you wrote what you wrote, why you feel that way, the trolls, etc. You feel good? Makes you strong? What is it? I think you are a tool...
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Radman66 7/9/2016 1:36pm
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Kroc is notoriously a sore loser in my opinion. After moto 1 I thought, uh oh.... He got beat, will his excuse be illness or bike set up? It's usually one or the other, and sure enough.
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bobby397 7/9/2016 1:38pm
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Radman66 wrote:
Kroc is notoriously a sore loser in my opinion. After moto 1 I thought, uh oh.... He got beat, will his excuse be illness or bike...
Kroc is notoriously a sore loser in my opinion. After moto 1 I thought, uh oh.... He got beat, will his excuse be illness or bike set up? It's usually one or the other, and sure enough.
that the difference in a champion and lets say a guy like weston. a true champion hates to lose and isn't content with anything less
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kongols 7/9/2016 1:39pm
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Radman66 wrote:
Kroc is notoriously a sore loser in my opinion. After moto 1 I thought, uh oh.... He got beat, will his excuse be illness or bike...
Kroc is notoriously a sore loser in my opinion. After moto 1 I thought, uh oh.... He got beat, will his excuse be illness or bike set up? It's usually one or the other, and sure enough.
Every winner is a sore loser. It would be unnatural if it was different.


edit. bobby just beat me, fucker. Fuck

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