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Go down in your bunker then..

The sports aren't pure now and haven't been in decades, if ever. In fact, they're aren't many things in life that are
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Phillip_Lamb wrote:
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that...
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that it is a problem with our society. And now in sport, where it is based on true competition to see who the best is, the rules have been changed to, Not to give everyone an equal start, but to give everyone an equal ending. Our society has shifted the idea of what FAIR is. fair used to be eveyone line up on the same line and go as fast as you can, now fair is line up wherever you want and finish at the same time.

Sports, which are supposed to be idealistic, honor bound, a pinnacle of human nature, have lost its integrity. Baseball, football, nascar and now motocross, have all lost the integrity of the sport, all that matters is the dollar, and when morals are based on getting another dollar, real integrity is gone, doing the RIGHT thing is NOT OK.

imagine in the coming Olympics, Hussein Bolt running fast and winning, only for them to go "no that run doesnt count you were too good, it didnt make for a good ending...." HOW INSANE.


I DONT WANT "EXCITEMENT" i want INTEGRITY. I WANT HONESTY, I WANT PURITY back in sports. all these "rules" to "level" the playing field. to hell with them.

If chase comes to SX, i will not attend another event, and if ( heaven forbid) it comes to the MX series, I will no longer support those events which i have attended for the last 25 years


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Some of you guys just need to face it. Motocross will never bring in more money or more people. It will continue to decline in popularity until the only money coming in comes from the participants themselves.

It has nothing to do with how exciting the professional racing is. It has to do with the general interest in dirtbikes themselves.

in 1980, Yamaha sold more YZ80's than they sell motocross bikes altogether in a year now. Thats with almost 90 million more people living here then in 1980. Almost a 40% increase in population and a 80% decrease in sales.

If those numbers dont scream at you, then you will continue to be confused as to the decline in the popularity of this sport. It has nothing to do with how many people watch or attend Supercross races.
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Phillip_Lamb wrote:
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that...
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that it is a problem with our society. And now in sport, where it is based on true competition to see who the best is, the rules have been changed to, Not to give everyone an equal start, but to give everyone an equal ending. Our society has shifted the idea of what FAIR is. fair used to be eveyone line up on the same line and go as fast as you can, now fair is line up wherever you want and finish at the same time.

Sports, which are supposed to be idealistic, honor bound, a pinnacle of human nature, have lost its integrity. Baseball, football, nascar and now motocross, have all lost the integrity of the sport, all that matters is the dollar, and when morals are based on getting another dollar, real integrity is gone, doing the RIGHT thing is NOT OK.

imagine in the coming Olympics, Hussein Bolt running fast and winning, only for them to go "no that run doesnt count you were too good, it didnt make for a good ending...." HOW INSANE.


I DONT WANT "EXCITEMENT" i want INTEGRITY. I WANT HONESTY, I WANT PURITY back in sports. all these "rules" to "level" the playing field. to hell with them.

If chase comes to SX, i will not attend another event, and if ( heaven forbid) it comes to the MX series, I will no longer support those events which i have attended for the last 25 years
The point of the Olympics or tournaments or playoffs in any sport is to elevate the importance of those events to celebrate the athletes that can elevate themselves under those circumstances. There have been lots of athletes that have won world championships but fallen short of gold in the Olympics.

I just hope that if there is a regular season and a chase it keeps more guys healthy and allows for better development of the bikes. Seems like for most guys test track and real race settings dont always work 100%.

Yeah it does suck that earlier races wouldnt count towards the championship. However I do believe it would make for better actual racing all the way down the schedule.

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Phillip_Lamb wrote:
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that...
The point of the article is that its not just about a game, or a race in the case of motocross. It goes beyond, in that it is a problem with our society. And now in sport, where it is based on true competition to see who the best is, the rules have been changed to, Not to give everyone an equal start, but to give everyone an equal ending. Our society has shifted the idea of what FAIR is. fair used to be eveyone line up on the same line and go as fast as you can, now fair is line up wherever you want and finish at the same time.

Sports, which are supposed to be idealistic, honor bound, a pinnacle of human nature, have lost its integrity. Baseball, football, nascar and now motocross, have all lost the integrity of the sport, all that matters is the dollar, and when morals are based on getting another dollar, real integrity is gone, doing the RIGHT thing is NOT OK.

imagine in the coming Olympics, Hussein Bolt running fast and winning, only for them to go "no that run doesnt count you were too good, it didnt make for a good ending...." HOW INSANE.


I DONT WANT "EXCITEMENT" i want INTEGRITY. I WANT HONESTY, I WANT PURITY back in sports. all these "rules" to "level" the playing field. to hell with them.

If chase comes to SX, i will not attend another event, and if ( heaven forbid) it comes to the MX series, I will no longer support those events which i have attended for the last 25 years
You post seems kind of silly to me.
Baseball has the world series, Football and Basketball have playoffs. They all involve point re-sets in a fashion.
The chase format is just playoffs for Supercross.
What's wrong with a system that allows racers to build points to get to "the playoffs"?

Having a series "finale" where the champion is already decided is stupid, and a marketing disaster. It couldn't be more of a bore. What if the Superbowl was meaningless in terms of the championship?
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The old trickle down theory that never works in corporate America. You realize the only sports where the players/teams receive additional income based off of lucrative...
The old trickle down theory that never works in corporate America. You realize the only sports where the players/teams receive additional income based off of lucrative TV deals are the ones with a player's association/union. That doesn't exist in SX/MX. The rider's would not receive a dime of that money, the purse increase would be minimal to non-existent. This is all for the big wigs up top.
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See above, while the "lucrative TV deals" might end up having little impact on their per race earnings ([i]they could negotiate for more if they would...
See above, while the "lucrative TV deals" might end up having little impact on their per race earnings (they could negotiate for more if they would unify) it will have a dramatic effect on their real source of income: sponsorship.
I see where you're coming from. I just don't see a correlation between a change in format and attendance/ tv ratings that would be enough to bring in new outside sponsors to the sport. Riding the coat tails of energy drink companies and cameras keeps the sport small. Will more discount tires, blue buffalo's, etc enter the circus with a chase? I guess we shall see but it would surprise me honestly. I don't personally mind the sport staying small though. I remember the late 90's/early 2000's and big companies like chevy trucks aren't coming back unless the economy has an upswing. If you really want big company dollars flowing into the sport again allow budlight and marlboro ads to be plastered everywhere.
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Doesn't everyone here always complain about riders not getting enough money?
Well... Bigger TV packages mean more money and bigger sponsorships for the riders.
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... you'd think more people would realize that.
Will they, the riders, get more money?

Is Feld paying the riders? It is Feld that is working this hoping for more money. Will they offer a larger purse?

In most businesses, you find a way to make more money with out putting more out. Generally that comes with cutting costs and utilizing lean manufacturing to make a product for less and sell for the same.

If the chase brings them more money, that is more profit, paying out more, if they pay anymore, takes away from the extra profit...
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KennyT wrote:
Another Chase post. So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you...
Another Chase post.

So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you would like to think our opinions matter it will not sway Feld one way or the other. It is all about putting asses in the seats and eyes on the TV.

Heading into Vegas there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues. Everyone is waiting for the Nationals to start.
"there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues" This is where all of the pro chase people have it wrong. I don't see that there is zero interest in this weekends race. I am just as stoked on it as I am on any race. You aren't going to create long term fans with gimmicks but you will chase long term fans away with gimmicks.
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mxenthusiast 5/6/2016 10:55am
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Honest question, how would the chase format stop a one or two rider domination of the sport?

Lets say you have 16 races across the season. 11 races in the first section then 5 that actually decides the championship. How would this help stop a Mcgrath, Carmichael, Dungey etc? They will still win the majority of the races, just as they always have. The only issue is, they could have 1 bad race in the second half and lose the entire championship, which is stupid.

The chase could actually make the racing more boring. Take the RC vs Reed years. RC dominated the first half of the seasons, built a points gap, then ran a little conservative, so Reed would then pick up and win some at the end. If RC was in the chase format, he would not have been able to hang back a bit, and would have won even more.

Same with Dungey this year. He pretty much dominated this year until he had a points gap at the end and played it a bit safe. That gave us a little excitement to see Roczen win. If Dungey was in the chase, he would have had to run it hard to the end and probably would have won the remaining few rounds.

In those scenarios, the racing would be even more boring.

Also, the powers that be, seem to not understand that the people who actually keep track of the SX series and know the points from race to race, are the people who will not skip the races anyway. Most likely, a majority of the fans at any given sx race has no clue there is even a points system in place.
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akillerwombat 5/6/2016 11:01am
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I posted this on the previous page but since it's at the bottom (and everyones tendency to just go to the last page) here it is again...

For everyone that is so ANTI-CHASE I highly suggest you look into Street League (Skateboardings Chase style season long tournament) as many in the skate world regard it as the best thing that's happened to skating since the X-Games (but better) which I would argue was one of the best things for our sport as well because it showed the world Travis Pastrana; arguably the best thing to happen to dirt bike related sports since pretty much ever.

Anyhow – back to Street League. Not only is it exciting to see a season evolve and rivalries build throughout the year but skateboarding is bigger than ever (who would have guessed drama was good for sports?), the riders are getting paid WAY MORE than they ever did, and no one bitches when someone like Nyjah Houston, Chaz Ortiz, or Chris Cole walks away with a title (despite having to reset points going into the later stages of the tournament) because unlike everyone here who somehow thinks people will be able to undeservingly "steal the championship" they understand that you don't make it to the end without working your ass off all year long.
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One Last Comeback wrote:
You post seems kind of silly to me. Baseball has the world series, Football and Basketball have playoffs. They all involve point re-sets in a fashion...
You post seems kind of silly to me.
Baseball has the world series, Football and Basketball have playoffs. They all involve point re-sets in a fashion.
The chase format is just playoffs for Supercross.
What's wrong with a system that allows racers to build points to get to "the playoffs"?

Having a series "finale" where the champion is already decided is stupid, and a marketing disaster. It couldn't be more of a bore. What if the Superbowl was meaningless in terms of the championship?
How many times does this dead horse have to be beaten? The comparison to "the playoffs" is just simply inaccurate.

I'm not really for or against "the chase" at this point but the parallels trying to be drawn to playoffs in team sports are irrelevant. Motocross is an individual sport with every person competing against each other every race.
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akillerwombat wrote:
I posted this on the previous page but since it's at the bottom ([i]and everyones tendency to just go to the last page[/i]) here it is...
I posted this on the previous page but since it's at the bottom (and everyones tendency to just go to the last page) here it is again...

For everyone that is so ANTI-CHASE I highly suggest you look into Street League (Skateboardings Chase style season long tournament) as many in the skate world regard it as the best thing that's happened to skating since the X-Games (but better) which I would argue was one of the best things for our sport as well because it showed the world Travis Pastrana; arguably the best thing to happen to dirt bike related sports since pretty much ever.

Anyhow – back to Street League. Not only is it exciting to see a season evolve and rivalries build throughout the year but skateboarding is bigger than ever (who would have guessed drama was good for sports?), the riders are getting paid WAY MORE than they ever did, and no one bitches when someone like Nyjah Houston, Chaz Ortiz, or Chris Cole walks away with a title (despite having to reset points going into the later stages of the tournament) because unlike everyone here who somehow thinks people will be able to undeservingly "steal the championship" they understand that you don't make it to the end without working your ass off all year long.
So now we are comparing judged sports to racing ....WTF?
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KennyT wrote:
Another Chase post. So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you...
Another Chase post.

So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you would like to think our opinions matter it will not sway Feld one way or the other. It is all about putting asses in the seats and eyes on the TV.

Heading into Vegas there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues. Everyone is waiting for the Nationals to start.
BAMX wrote:
"there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues" This is where all of the pro chase people have it wrong...
"there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues" This is where all of the pro chase people have it wrong. I don't see that there is zero interest in this weekends race. I am just as stoked on it as I am on any race. You aren't going to create long term fans with gimmicks but you will chase long term fans away with gimmicks.
BAMX - Agree completely. Does the pro-chase crowd realize that there are 16 races before the final? It makes no sense to attempt generate excitement for 1/3 of the series at the expense of 2/3 of the series.
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I can't help but think of the season where RV just destroyed the field, DESTROYED everyone else racing. He was on a different level, helped by a few top riders not able to race the series....

He locked up the title 4 races early.

Then injures he knee, he cannot race the rest of the season. He worked hard enough early on to have the points lead to earn the title though.

Had the chase been in previously, all that hard work and all those points, gone. A champion would have been crowned that was not even in the same league as RV that year.
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Geeezzusss... Not this sh!t again...
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You really think the riders would get proportionally more money with a bigger TV package? I mean, yeah, [i]maybe[/i] the purse might increase 10% if they're...
You really think the riders would get proportionally more money with a bigger TV package? I mean, yeah, maybe the purse might increase 10% if they're lucky.
It's not about the purse. More exposure equals more sponsorship dollars.
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RangerLee wrote:
Will they, the riders, get more money? Is Feld paying the riders? It is Feld that is working this hoping for more money. Will they offer...
Will they, the riders, get more money?

Is Feld paying the riders? It is Feld that is working this hoping for more money. Will they offer a larger purse?

In most businesses, you find a way to make more money with out putting more out. Generally that comes with cutting costs and utilizing lean manufacturing to make a product for less and sell for the same.

If the chase brings them more money, that is more profit, paying out more, if they pay anymore, takes away from the extra profit...
Not enough to share...



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I personally want an entire revamp from the series championship to the night program, but until then bring on the chase! The gate still drops, and 20 laps later the checkers will wave for the fastest rider that night.

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RangerLee wrote:
I can't help but think of the season where RV just destroyed the field, DESTROYED everyone else racing. He was on a different level, helped by...
I can't help but think of the season where RV just destroyed the field, DESTROYED everyone else racing. He was on a different level, helped by a few top riders not able to race the series....

He locked up the title 4 races early.

Then injures he knee, he cannot race the rest of the season. He worked hard enough early on to have the points lead to earn the title though.

Had the chase been in previously, all that hard work and all those points, gone. A champion would have been crowned that was not even in the same league as RV that year.
Exactly.
This is going to take more away from the sport than grow it. I for one don't really care if it grows monetarily or viewer wise because as I have said before, no matter what, men and women will still line up together and race dirtbikes with no TV whatsoever.
The chase is just political correctness and trying to make YOU feel like people are more equal than they are. There will always be domination in this sport but SX racers will lay back now and conserve. That's not racing. What Dungey did was racing to reach a well earned goal.

I will have my dirtbikes and I will continue to ride and race even if there is no SX or MX on TV.

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All who say they will quit watching or attending are full of shit...
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Up until a few years ago, I went to pretty much every supercross in So Cal (starting in the '70s).

I'll still watch, but I have pretty much stopped going to see them live. Mainly due to ever increasing cost, drunks, fireworks, Lurch yelling, etc. [I'm old now, get off my lawn!]. I like racing,

A "chase" championship will always have a big asterisk in my opinion, when compared to the real champions of past and present.



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Hmmmm...so it was ok for Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha and Suzuki to have riders dominate at one time or another but when KTM starts doing it we need to change the rules. Its been pretty much the same since the 70's but now, something has to change.
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TankSlapper wrote:
Up until a few years ago, I went to pretty much every supercross in So Cal (starting in the '70s). I'll still watch, but I have...
Up until a few years ago, I went to pretty much every supercross in So Cal (starting in the '70s).

I'll still watch, but I have pretty much stopped going to see them live. Mainly due to ever increasing cost, drunks, fireworks, Lurch yelling, etc. [I'm old now, get off my lawn!]. I like racing,

A "chase" championship will always have a big asterisk in my opinion, when compared to the real champions of past and present.



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I know I'm gettin slammed for this.The true sport is motocross. Supercross was started as an entertainment entity for the winter, much as monster trucks and free style. Families that may go to see it are having a night out, probably cause their kids want to go. It's exciting, and they don't know anything or care.They just saw a show, like a circus. You take the kids out, they have a good time, go to sleep when you get home, and you bang the old lady, cause you were a nice dad and husband. If you want to fill even 20,000 seats anywhere, you're not doing it with guys that ride and race. There aren't that many anywhere. I don't think any change will do anything to help fill the seats. So why do it?
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mx5471 wrote:
I know I'm gettin slammed for this.The true sport is motocross. Supercross was started as an entertainment entity for the winter, much as monster trucks and...
I know I'm gettin slammed for this.The true sport is motocross. Supercross was started as an entertainment entity for the winter, much as monster trucks and free style. Families that may go to see it are having a night out, probably cause their kids want to go. It's exciting, and they don't know anything or care.They just saw a show, like a circus. You take the kids out, they have a good time, go to sleep when you get home, and you bang the old lady, cause you were a nice dad and husband. If you want to fill even 20,000 seats anywhere, you're not doing it with guys that ride and race. There aren't that many anywhere. I don't think any change will do anything to help fill the seats. So why do it?
Because this forum is the biggest collection of rando's that want to talk moto in the US and there is not 1 thread on the front page on the subject of the racing in the last round of the series tomorrow.
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RangerLee wrote:
I can't help but think of the season where RV just destroyed the field, DESTROYED everyone else racing. He was on a different level, helped by...
I can't help but think of the season where RV just destroyed the field, DESTROYED everyone else racing. He was on a different level, helped by a few top riders not able to race the series....

He locked up the title 4 races early.

Then injures he knee, he cannot race the rest of the season. He worked hard enough early on to have the points lead to earn the title though.

Had the chase been in previously, all that hard work and all those points, gone. A champion would have been crowned that was not even in the same league as RV that year.
Kind of like 259 in 03.
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KennyT wrote:
Another Chase post. So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you...
Another Chase post.

So 30-40 people on a message board are against it and 30-40 are for it . Sorry folks but as much as you would like to think our opinions matter it will not sway Feld one way or the other. It is all about putting asses in the seats and eyes on the TV.

Heading into Vegas there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues. Everyone is waiting for the Nationals to start.
BAMX wrote:
"there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues" This is where all of the pro chase people have it wrong...
"there is zero interest in the final round unless you are playing fantasy leagues" This is where all of the pro chase people have it wrong. I don't see that there is zero interest in this weekends race. I am just as stoked on it as I am on any race. You aren't going to create long term fans with gimmicks but you will chase long term fans away with gimmicks.
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BAMX - Agree completely. Does the pro-chase crowd realize that there are 16 races before the final? It makes no sense to attempt generate excitement for...
BAMX - Agree completely. Does the pro-chase crowd realize that there are 16 races before the final? It makes no sense to attempt generate excitement for 1/3 of the series at the expense of 2/3 of the series.
Just curious about your ages? Maybe I'm getting too old to be excited about races that have no meaning towards Championships. I have been going to these things since the 1st one in LA 44 years ago so maybe it's just burnout. But to me when the series hits Vegas and if there is no title implications I just see it as a race where nobody wants to take any chances for fear of getting injured before Hangtown in a couple of weeks.

I mean it is still a SX and I will tune in on Sat nite but there is no way I would make the 4 hr drive to see it in person once the title is wrapped up. If there was a title on the line it would be a different story
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One Last Comeback wrote:
You post seems kind of silly to me. Baseball has the world series, Football and Basketball have playoffs. They all involve point re-sets in a fashion...
You post seems kind of silly to me.
Baseball has the world series, Football and Basketball have playoffs. They all involve point re-sets in a fashion.
The chase format is just playoffs for Supercross.
What's wrong with a system that allows racers to build points to get to "the playoffs"?

Having a series "finale" where the champion is already decided is stupid, and a marketing disaster. It couldn't be more of a bore. What if the Superbowl was meaningless in terms of the championship?
How many play off games have been boring? Plenty have.

How many Superbowls have been boring? Plenty have.

How many World Series have been boring? Plenty have.

How many NBA finals have been boring? Plenty have.

The false assumption made by the pro-chase crowd is that the chase style format will make things exciting, and that's not necessarily the case. It would not have been more exciting when McGrath was racing because he would have still been so far out front in each race, it would have been boring. Same with RV; put a chase style format and he still ends up winning the remaining races and it is still just as boring.

Look for better ways to fix the racing because the chase format won't fix things, and it cheapens the title.
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5/6/2016 6:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/6/2016 7:07pm
Jimmy_Sloan wrote:
How many play off games have been boring? Plenty have. How many Superbowls have been boring? Plenty have. How many World Series have been boring? Plenty...
How many play off games have been boring? Plenty have.

How many Superbowls have been boring? Plenty have.

How many World Series have been boring? Plenty have.

How many NBA finals have been boring? Plenty have.

The false assumption made by the pro-chase crowd is that the chase style format will make things exciting, and that's not necessarily the case. It would not have been more exciting when McGrath was racing because he would have still been so far out front in each race, it would have been boring. Same with RV; put a chase style format and he still ends up winning the remaining races and it is still just as boring.

Look for better ways to fix the racing because the chase format won't fix things, and it cheapens the title.
IN NASCAR THE CHASE IS ALSO KNOW AS "The Matt Kenseth rule"
Matt won the 2003 Championship with ONLY ONE WIN... Then 25 TOP TEN FINISHES...
THAT IS BORING except for Matt, his team & fans... Yes, Matt is punished for his consistency, so will
Dungey be...


We'll never know this year how much Kenny and the Suzuki improved and how/if much Dungey backed it down...
I'm sure he likes the 85k per win...

No one belongs in a chase that didn't win a race... that's rewarding consistency which is the exact opposite of what
a chase is about...

This has faults too... but it would be interesting and no race would be meaningless... 14 races & count the
number of winners...
Dungey
Roczen
Anderson
Tomac
in the chase...

Last 3 races, just like motocross, lowest score wins... Throw out the worse finish of the last 3...

Best 2 out 3 wins in the end, ties go to the guy with the most regular season wins... I guess a rider could win...

You can NOT let Chad Reed, Bagget, Moose, Seely in a chase because they didn't win...
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early wrote:
Because this forum is the biggest collection of rando's that want to talk moto in the US and there is not 1 thread on the front...
Because this forum is the biggest collection of rando's that want to talk moto in the US and there is not 1 thread on the front page on the subject of the racing in the last round of the series tomorrow.
Right, so we should upend the entire tradition of the sport because there are no threads on VitalMX about the racing at this specific point in time....

Gotcha

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