Stroupe? Don't know if its true

JerseyFresh
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3/14/2016 5:35pm
MXMattii wrote:
Tea, a crippled friend of mine got medical marijuana and it is used as tea. So you drink your medical marijuana. An other friend I know...
Tea, a crippled friend of mine got medical marijuana and it is used as tea. So you drink your medical marijuana. An other friend I know (all people I met in clinic) has terrible headaches and he eats paddo's/special mushrooms once about three/four months and that keeps those headaches away. But he hates the trips he have, so they lock him in his room till the next day and then he can live normal for the next months.
I work in the mmj industry and while I don't dispute your claim, I have never in my life heard of psylocybin mushrooms treating migraines. But hey, whatever works. Having said that I totally agree with the MMJ over pills. A 300mg edible will make you forget all about that pain in your knee. And you won't get physically addicted.
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3/14/2016 5:36pm
Man, I was so stoked to see Austin back racing and looking good. Hopefully he gets some serious help and can kick that heroin before it kills him.

Everyone is different and addiction effects everyone differently. For example, my brother has a very addictive personality and can't just take something without becoming 100% into it and it leads to bad shit. I tend to be the opposite. The big difference might be that he spent several years on pain meds due to several knee surgeries, hand surgeries, wrist surgeries etc.....
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3/14/2016 5:45pm
That's odd, I thought the bikes broke - Money
or
That the team was in financial difficulties - MXMatti

looks like it was neither.
3/14/2016 5:47pm
I work in the mmj industry and while I don't dispute your claim, I have never in my life heard of psylocybin mushrooms treating migraines. But...
I work in the mmj industry and while I don't dispute your claim, I have never in my life heard of psylocybin mushrooms treating migraines. But hey, whatever works. Having said that I totally agree with the MMJ over pills. A 300mg edible will make you forget all about that pain in your knee. And you won't get physically addicted.
Uh, a 300mg edible? 300mg can send a guy send a guy to the moon.

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3/14/2016 5:55pm
Damn, shitty news. Was really rooting for him and I think he still had it in him.

Addiction is tough, hope he gets the help he needs.
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3/14/2016 5:58pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 6:03pm
Jaybird67k wrote:
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro...
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro rider. How do you know Austin is having a hard time? That's pure speculation. You have to prove guilt. Was it his?
It is public information after all and the OP has freedom of speech. America !!!

Jason
How do I know he's having a hard time?!

Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything on every rider, duh. So should we? Obviously you mind is too caught up in the yummy morsel of gossip rather than using a little discretion and common sense. You're right this is the new America, where we can do whatever we want, no one will tell us anything!

Yes, its news, duh. But if someone is genuinely concerned enough to search out gossip like this and go to the trouble to post it, why not dig a little deeper and find out how to send him some letters of encouragement, support, or general concern. Which would benefit him more?

Sounds hokey, right? Because that's clearly not what the OP had in mind.

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3/14/2016 6:08pm
Sam stone's welcome home didn't last to long,he went to work we he spent his last dime

But sammy took to stealin' when he got that empty feelin' for a hundred dollar habit without overtime,

And the gold rolled thru his veins like a thousand railroad trains and eased his mind in the hours that he chose

While the kids ran around wearin' other people's clothes.

There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes,and Jesus Christ died for nothin' I suppose,,,,,
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3/14/2016 6:10pm
All of these big long opinions. Some are completely off the rails stupid and some are OK. Here's mine.... what a total fucking loser!!! Unreal. You can hand somebody the world at times but they just can't reach and take it!
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3/14/2016 6:11pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I don't know about some of you; but, this is sad news to me. The lack of tolerance and the inability toe "think" reasonably by some...
I don't know about some of you; but, this is sad news to me.

The lack of tolerance and the inability toe "think" reasonably by some of you...BEFORE YOU POST, also, is jus' sad.

I've seen addiction take down some amazing people; and, that's what's happening here.
Straight up. We should wish the guy the best. I get tired of reading posts about others misfortunes... we all have them on different levels.
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3/14/2016 6:17pm
It's true. Unfortunately.
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3/14/2016 6:17pm
I've lost some good friends to H , i have a feeling i know how this story will eventually end and i hope i'm wrong.
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3/14/2016 6:25pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 6:26pm
Jaybird67k wrote:
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro...
Maybe they think it can help someone or maybe they are just letting people know on a MX forum board about the happenings of a Pro rider. How do you know Austin is having a hard time? That's pure speculation. You have to prove guilt. Was it his?
It is public information after all and the OP has freedom of speech. America !!!

Jason
burn1986 wrote:
How do I know he's having a hard time?! Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything...
How do I know he's having a hard time?!

Yeah, we have freedom of speech and can search out and start digging up anything and everything on every rider, duh. So should we? Obviously you mind is too caught up in the yummy morsel of gossip rather than using a little discretion and common sense. You're right this is the new America, where we can do whatever we want, no one will tell us anything!

Yes, its news, duh. But if someone is genuinely concerned enough to search out gossip like this and go to the trouble to post it, why not dig a little deeper and find out how to send him some letters of encouragement, support, or general concern. Which would benefit him more?

Sounds hokey, right? Because that's clearly not what the OP had in mind.

So now you can read the mind of the OP and you have called Austin guilty before trial ......hmmmmm
That's a nice talent to have.
Tell me how YOU KNOW he is having a hard time?

Lot's of pure speculation on your part Sir.
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3/14/2016 6:26pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 6:28pm
I can't believe some of what I am reading here. It's the doctors fault, it's the governments fault, it's the prisons fault because they are trying to make money for the government, it's the people around him's fault. Why can't this be the fault of Austin Stroupe?? A guy maybe that just loves to party and act like a jerk off? A guy that doesn't listen to his parents or anybody that tries to tell him he is wasting his life. Following his Instagram, he acts and talks like a wannabe rapper, comes off like a 17-year-old . Where's the fucking accountability? What's with all the bleeding hearts around here? All these excuses are fucking ridiculous !!
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3/14/2016 6:27pm
Saw this on my Facebook news feed. Tragic situation. Regardless if he ever races a dirt bike again, I hope he can beat his demons and live a productive life.
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3/14/2016 6:31pm
hammertime wrote:
I can't believe some of what I am reading here. It's the doctors fault, it's the governments fault, it's the prisons fault because they are trying...
I can't believe some of what I am reading here. It's the doctors fault, it's the governments fault, it's the prisons fault because they are trying to make money for the government, it's the people around him's fault. Why can't this be the fault of Austin Stroupe?? A guy maybe that just loves to party and act like a jerk off? A guy that doesn't listen to his parents or anybody that tries to tell him he is wasting his life. Following his Instagram, he acts and talks like a wannabe rapper, comes off like a 17-year-old . Where's the fucking accountability? What's with all the bleeding hearts around here? All these excuses are fucking ridiculous !!
I would really hate to have some here defending me in court........lol.
Does he even get the "presumption of innocence"

I like my Lawyer.....most of the time.

Jason
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3/14/2016 6:32pm
By no means am I an authority on addiction, but I have spent a fair amount of clinical time on units with a high percentage of drug users and alcoholics, both in medical surgical and psychiatry settings. My $.02...

Yes, providers are too quick to hand out opiods for pain. There are a variety of NSAID analgesics that can offer pain relief when combined with therapy and physical rehabilitation. Sometimes opiods are necessary. A lot of the time they aren't. There needs to be more oversight on the prescription and renewal of these drugs and much better follow up with patients.

That being said, there is a major component of personal responsibility here. Yes, some people have addictive personalities, clinical depression, anxiety, etc. Some people had a less than ideal upbringing. But at the end of the day, It is up to you to use your resources to manage your medical problems in a way that does not lead to your own destruction/addiction. It can be done. Unfortunately it's easier to take a pill or stab a vein than to pursue more proactive solutions to medical issues, pain, mental illness, etc.

One final point. Not sure if this is the case with Stroupe, not saying it's the case with all addicts in general. From my experience, a significant number of these people simply do not want to get sober. They'll go through the motions for the benefit of family and friends, or to get the courts and social workers off their back. As soon as that pressure lifts, they go right back to what got them in trouble.
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3/14/2016 6:43pm
I disagree that opioids are a necessary prescription. I don't want to make this sound like I'm Mr. gone through everything guy but here's a quick little rundown. I have broken 20 bones, finally did a c-6 c-7 burst fracture in my neck 18 years ago. I was hospitalized for seven months and paralyzed from the tits down for a period of that time until I "loosened up" my right side ended up getting better, pretty much full mobility and strength. My left side limps badly and my left hand is pretty much paralyzed. Throughout all of that, and with the limp I have severe pain and inflammation through my right side and I never took the opioids that have been prescribed to me.... I've got perks in my house, I literally might take one three times a year for what I would call a pain vacation.... But nobody needs them. That's bullshit. If you got intolerable pain go for a nerve pain blocker such as Lyrica. All these guys that are on the shit, these opioids.... It's nothing that Tylenol and advil won't really do.... I think a lot of dudes just like to be fucked up on the shit. It feels great let's call a spade a spade here. Anyhow that's my ramble. I think people are weak, sometimes you just have to tough it out like I do every day !
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3/14/2016 6:59pm
Guys,
Steer clear of Tramadol. They give it to you when the Vicodin becomes too much. It is a non-narcotic but read about it and search the Internet before taking it. It's a long term pain management pill and a major bitch to stop taking. Doctors don't know because they generally don't fuck themselves up.

In regards to Stroupe.....hopefully this will be his rock bottom and he will recover (if he even needs to recover.....how the hell would I know). These things happen to people so try not to be too harsh. He just a kid with an awesome talent. Great rider.
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3/14/2016 6:59pm
Don't discount the power of addiction. I see many of you on vital everyday, multiple times per day. I hope ya'll can someday get your lives together. (I'm not addicted to vital like you guys tho, I just look in every day to stare at the addicts)
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3/14/2016 7:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 7:42pm
I'm actually surprised we don't see more of this in this sport,with all the injuries that happen.
Guy's get hurt then they get hooked on pain pills like oxy's etc...
Then they move onto the evil H and other things...
It's actually quite common in general society - I've seen it often with people.
That's pretty much what happened to Healey also.
It took him some time to get back to normal,but he did it.
Best of luck to Austin.
Hopefully he gets through this and gets his life back to normal.
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3/14/2016 7:19pm
gnarwhip wrote:
For any kids reading this: Rule #1 of life: don't do H. That's pretty much it. Oh and rule #2: don't do meth.
You've failed to mention 3) avoid doctors who over prescribe pain meds. Physical therapy is superior to meds IMO
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3/14/2016 7:19pm
harrowguy wrote:
Ruining people lives for half an ounce of weed.
No wonder why the US has 43 million inmates.

Good job Nixon
Don't forget the heroin
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3/14/2016 7:24pm
Race against this man a many times in the Carolinas in the early 2000s. Always knew this guy would be a champion one day. Sad to see what has happened to him.
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3/14/2016 7:25pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 7:26pm
mx617 wrote:
From merriam Webster: addiction broadly :  persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful How many of us have hurt our...
From merriam Webster:
addiction broadly :  persistent compulsive use of a substance known by the user to be harmful

How many of us have hurt our health, family/relationship, missed work etc due to moto? Fits the definition of addiction for most of us.

To say addiction is a choice and they should just man up is a completely false statement. The science has already been posted, won't repeat it but here's the statement put another way to show how ridiculous that thought process is: you should just stop being gay. It's a lifestyle choice, just man up and choose to like women.

Doesn't work there either, the brain is incredibly complex and works differently f everyone. The fact of the matter is "choice" and "willpower" only go so far when you're talking about overcoming chemical reactions.
.How many of us have hurt our health, family/relationship, missed work etc due to moto? Fits the definition of addiction for most of us.

To say addiction is a choice and they should just man up is a completely false statement.

The fact of the matter is "choice" and "willpower" only go so far when you're talking about overcoming chemical reactions.


Very sensible points. Couldn't agree more.
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3/14/2016 7:25pm
I should of ate a few pills before reading this thread

Hope the kid can get a handle on his life and get healthy.
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3/14/2016 7:26pm
My prayers for Austin to change.
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3/14/2016 7:28pm
It's obviously all on Stroupe, but once these people get addicted to this shit it is game over. Pain management clinics write prescriptions hand over fist for hundreds and hundreds of pills. Here in Southeast Texas about ten years ago people were dropping like flies with Xanax, soma, oxy and vicodin cocktails. All prescribed. What started out as fun turns into a fuck all else lifestyle that ends up killing people. If the local college kids brought another new patient with them to their next office visit, the office visit and prescriptions would be comp'd. There would be carloads of 20 year olds driving from one clinic to the next loading up. Stroupe has a good chance of ending up dead pretty soon so hopefully he doesn't take any innocent victims with him. I wish him the best because I have seen the pain and financial hardships of what this does to good families and good people in general. Sucks all around.

Oh, and going to rehab? That's just networking for addicts.
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3/14/2016 7:36pm
Rehab here is suboxen strips, methadone clinics cant get permits anymore. Both are just replacement opiates and big bucks for the doctors.

What I've seen of guys at his place in life is he has about 5 to 7 more years to go before quitting, the challenge being living till then.
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3/14/2016 7:41pm Edited Date/Time 3/14/2016 7:41pm
This thread really makes my feel like shit. I hate hearing about it , as I've lost three friends to this heroin shit! FUCK!

About 5yrs ago I posted this thread. I lost one before it and one after. Makes me sick to my stomach.

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Non-Moto,21/Losing-a-friend-to-drugs,1213…
3/14/2016 7:47pm
hammertime wrote:
I disagree that opioids are a necessary prescription. I don't want to make this sound like I'm Mr. gone through everything guy but here's a quick...
I disagree that opioids are a necessary prescription. I don't want to make this sound like I'm Mr. gone through everything guy but here's a quick little rundown. I have broken 20 bones, finally did a c-6 c-7 burst fracture in my neck 18 years ago. I was hospitalized for seven months and paralyzed from the tits down for a period of that time until I "loosened up" my right side ended up getting better, pretty much full mobility and strength. My left side limps badly and my left hand is pretty much paralyzed. Throughout all of that, and with the limp I have severe pain and inflammation through my right side and I never took the opioids that have been prescribed to me.... I've got perks in my house, I literally might take one three times a year for what I would call a pain vacation.... But nobody needs them. That's bullshit. If you got intolerable pain go for a nerve pain blocker such as Lyrica. All these guys that are on the shit, these opioids.... It's nothing that Tylenol and advil won't really do.... I think a lot of dudes just like to be fucked up on the shit. It feels great let's call a spade a spade here. Anyhow that's my ramble. I think people are weak, sometimes you just have to tough it out like I do every day !
Fuckin BOOM! Thats the god honest truth right there people.

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