What will Forkner be?

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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
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Speaking in generalities, very few can live up to the hype. It's nice to see kids dominate at LL, but that just doesn't seem to consistently carry over to the pro ranks.

I also haven't watched much of Forkner riding, and I hope he can add to the class depth. But at this point it's all just slightly educated guesswork.
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IWreckALot wrote:
Speaking in generalities, very few can live up to the hype. It's nice to see kids dominate at LL, but that just doesn't seem to consistently...
Speaking in generalities, very few can live up to the hype. It's nice to see kids dominate at LL, but that just doesn't seem to consistently carry over to the pro ranks.

I also haven't watched much of Forkner riding, and I hope he can add to the class depth. But at this point it's all just slightly educated guesswork.
Yeah I agree. Not many live up to the hype. Just seems to be a pattern of hyped riders coming in and not doing great. Not with all riders though
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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a...
Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
Crazy how fast everyone wants to pull the plug on AC. To me, if those are the two riders he is being compared to, that's pretty damn awesome. So, if the options are to win the first few supercross races he enters or end up with a #1 plate? I'd say that's a win-win situation.
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IWreckALot wrote:
Speaking in generalities, very few can live up to the hype. It's nice to see kids dominate at LL, but that just doesn't seem to consistently...
Speaking in generalities, very few can live up to the hype. It's nice to see kids dominate at LL, but that just doesn't seem to consistently carry over to the pro ranks.

I also haven't watched much of Forkner riding, and I hope he can add to the class depth. But at this point it's all just slightly educated guesswork.
Yeah I agree. Not many live up to the hype. Just seems to be a pattern of hyped riders coming in and not doing great. Not...
Yeah I agree. Not many live up to the hype. Just seems to be a pattern of hyped riders coming in and not doing great. Not with all riders though
I don't think you're paying attention.

Different riders have different hype.


Let's go over the most dominant amateur riders the last 5 years or so.

bogle (sx title)
Bell (fastest dude ever for 8 minutes just like he always was)
Webb/Ac no explanation needed
Bisecglia/mcelrath (Both are about where id predict after coming out of a weak class)

So besides AC staying hurt I think they've all done about how I woulda predicted a few years ago.

Forkner and sexton truly remind me of Ac vs Webb. Will be interesting to see if forkner avoids set backs and wins titles like he has the ability to, or if sexton has the better pro career by virtue of being a little bit out of the spotlight nearly his whole am career

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11/24/2015 7:47am
What's the source of the hype? You guys? Or the riders themselves?
11/24/2015 7:49am
GuyB wrote:
What's the source of the hype? You guys? Or the riders themselves?
Was wondering the same thing. What exactly is the hype or arbitrary bar that has been set? Who set it?

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11/24/2015 8:24am
Fast.....that's the answer folks.
Austin will be very fast.
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Well we did have a pretty revolution/evolutionary period in moto there for a while. MC came in and changed supercross and dominated, RC came in and changed the game as far as training and dominated, Stewart came in and changed the way the motorcycle is ridden in a big way and dominated......I think now people just EXPECT kids to come in and change the game every couple years when that just isn't reality.
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11/24/2015 9:03am
Forkner will be the first and only Austin Forkner, He won't be an Adam, a Ryan, or a Cooper....
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Im going to say similar to the Ryans
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Real Deal. Going to easily surpass AC on the durability scale.

I like how @Hudd_421 put it as well.

I like the cooper webb career path analogy.
11/24/2015 11:04am Edited Date/Time 11/24/2015 11:08am
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place.

Hype has a way of not working out for the majority of hyped riders. I remeber the first ever really hyped rider to come along, the guy that would be king, Erik Kehoe. Erik was the fastest rider to ever ride an 80 and was so extremely hyped in 1980 you'd of thought he was Christ, he didn't live up to it one bit. Sure he had a good solid career, but a far cry from wheat Yamaha had expected of him. Then it was Troy Blake (RIP), he never broke the top 10 as a pro.

The list continues with riders like Paul Denis, Eddie Warren. Eddie Hicks, Ron Tichner, Surrat, Mike Healey, Jimmy Button, Denny Stephonson, and on and on. Pretty much the only two hyped riders that have lived up to the hype in the last 25 yrears is Stewy and Ricky.

Hype IMO is an evil thing, give me a kid flying in under the raider who has had to work his ass off to achieve, like RV, Dungey and Jeremy Martin any day over a pampered kid who's been told he great all his life.
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11/24/2015 11:08am
UpTiTe wrote:
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place. Hype has a way of not working out for the majority...
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place.

Hype has a way of not working out for the majority of hyped riders. I remeber the first ever really hyped rider to come along, the guy that would be king, Erik Kehoe. Erik was the fastest rider to ever ride an 80 and was so extremely hyped in 1980 you'd of thought he was Christ, he didn't live up to it one bit. Sure he had a good solid career, but a far cry from wheat Yamaha had expected of him. Then it was Troy Blake (RIP), he never broke the top 10 as a pro.

The list continues with riders like Paul Denis, Eddie Warren. Eddie Hicks, Ron Tichner, Surrat, Mike Healey, Jimmy Button, Denny Stephonson, and on and on. Pretty much the only two hyped riders that have lived up to the hype in the last 25 yrears is Stewy and Ricky.

Hype IMO is an evil thing, give me a kid flying in under the raider who has had to work his ass off to achieve, like RV, Dungey and Jeremy Martin any day over a pampered kid who's been told he great all his life.
I heard Stewy was an under preforming letdown.
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11/24/2015 11:20am
GuyB wrote:
What's the source of the hype? You guys? Or the riders themselves?
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11/24/2015 11:21am
GuyB wrote:
What's the source of the hype? You guys? Or the riders themselves?
Hype is created by the media....

My Instagram is loaded with Austin Forkner this. Austin Forkner that. Austin Forkner interviews. Austin Forkner going to other continents with Ricky Carmichael, ect.

I'm not saying its a bad thing as I think the kids a total stud on a dirtbike but the hype is 100% driven by the media. People wouldn't be talking about amateurs like they do today if it wasn't for the media.

Its a double edge sward because everyone wants more amateur support and without putting these kids in the spot light early on and creating this hype most people don't care enough to follow. Which translates to less media coverage which translates to less support from company's.
11/24/2015 11:24am
UpTiTe wrote:
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place. Hype has a way of not working out for the majority...
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place.

Hype has a way of not working out for the majority of hyped riders. I remeber the first ever really hyped rider to come along, the guy that would be king, Erik Kehoe. Erik was the fastest rider to ever ride an 80 and was so extremely hyped in 1980 you'd of thought he was Christ, he didn't live up to it one bit. Sure he had a good solid career, but a far cry from wheat Yamaha had expected of him. Then it was Troy Blake (RIP), he never broke the top 10 as a pro.

The list continues with riders like Paul Denis, Eddie Warren. Eddie Hicks, Ron Tichner, Surrat, Mike Healey, Jimmy Button, Denny Stephonson, and on and on. Pretty much the only two hyped riders that have lived up to the hype in the last 25 yrears is Stewy and Ricky.

Hype IMO is an evil thing, give me a kid flying in under the raider who has had to work his ass off to achieve, like RV, Dungey and Jeremy Martin any day over a pampered kid who's been told he great all his life.
slipdog wrote:
I heard Stewy was an under preforming letdown.
I wish I would've been that bad of a let down then.
11/24/2015 11:29am
GuyB wrote:
What's the source of the hype? You guys? Or the riders themselves?
tprice07 wrote:
[img]https://rx.iscdn.net/2011/08/13978_alessi-nat09-04-058.jpg[/img]
Fun Fact: The Alessis didn't even start the "Believe the Hype" thing. It was someone in their circle.
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Fun Fact: The Alessis didn't even start the "Believe the Hype" thing. It was someone in their circle.
Well, they sure as hell took it and ran with it regardless
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11/24/2015 11:47am
Forkner has impressed me. Won the MEC and backed it up, TWICE. He's at least got something good going on....
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Forkner... believe the hype. Whether he lives up to it, not many do. He's got a chance of holding #1 plates if he can stay healthy.
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Fun Fact: The Alessis didn't even start the "Believe the Hype" thing. It was someone in their circle.
zehn wrote:
Well, they sure as hell took it and ran with it regardless
Fun fact it was a joke that started on DMXS.....
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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a...
Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
Webb is dominating . thats news to me .j mart kicked his ass the last 2 years outdoors . i think he is riding great , but he is far from dominate . in SX and deff not outdoors
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11/24/2015 2:39pm Edited Date/Time 11/24/2015 2:39pm
IMO, Forkner will do in supercross his first year what AC did minus the injury
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A super Star !!
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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a...
Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
Didn't AC win the first SX he raced? I'm actually not sure of that.....and didn't Webb sit out the 1st series he was planning on debuting in, due to an injury?....not sure of that either...but if any of that is true, so much for the wording of your question.
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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a...
Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
brimx153 wrote:
Webb is dominating . thats news to me .j mart kicked his ass the last 2 years outdoors . i think he is riding great...
Webb is dominating . thats news to me .j mart kicked his ass the last 2 years outdoors . i think he is riding great , but he is far from dominate . in SX and deff not outdoors
Did you watch west coast sx this year? 100% I would call him dominate

Yeah I know it's half the guys but still. He pretty much made everyone his bitch a lot of weekends.

Watch him in sx this coming year and you will be reminded quickly why he's going to get payed a shit ton next year when he moves to 450.

For the record I don't like sx, but the money does obviously
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Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a...
Assuming he stays healthy through The rest of amateurs what will he do when he turns pro? Pull an AC and get hurt or pull a Webb and dominate? Haven't watched this kid much but know he's fast as hell (using Webb and AC as examples because there supposed to be the superstars)
Motoxdoc wrote:
Didn't AC win the first SX he raced? I'm actually not sure of that.....and didn't Webb sit out the 1st series he was planning on debuting...
Didn't AC win the first SX he raced? I'm actually not sure of that.....and didn't Webb sit out the 1st series he was planning on debuting in, due to an injury?....not sure of that either...but if any of that is true, so much for the wording of your question.
Cooper didnt miss the sx series that year like you are thinking, he went pro outdoors like he planned. Hasnt missed any races since he turned pro, until this year at Vegas sx and a couple outdoors If I'm not mistaking, could be wrong.

Adam won his very first sx and won 3 of the first 5 (and his only 5 sx) and finished second when he didn't win. He is definitely a stud in sx especially there's no question there.

It's just most fans forget quickly when a rider is gone a lot like Adam has been, they will be reminded soon this coming year if he keeps it off the ground. I hope him and cooper end up on the same coast.. HOPEFULLY it's only a matter of time till we get to see a race ready Adam slugging it out with cooper.
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UpTiTe wrote:
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place. Hype has a way of not working out for the majority...
I can honestly say that I haven't heard him very hyped outside of this place.

Hype has a way of not working out for the majority of hyped riders. I remeber the first ever really hyped rider to come along, the guy that would be king, Erik Kehoe. Erik was the fastest rider to ever ride an 80 and was so extremely hyped in 1980 you'd of thought he was Christ, he didn't live up to it one bit. Sure he had a good solid career, but a far cry from wheat Yamaha had expected of him. Then it was Troy Blake (RIP), he never broke the top 10 as a pro.

The list continues with riders like Paul Denis, Eddie Warren. Eddie Hicks, Ron Tichner, Surrat, Mike Healey, Jimmy Button, Denny Stephonson, and on and on. Pretty much the only two hyped riders that have lived up to the hype in the last 25 yrears is Stewy and Ricky.

Hype IMO is an evil thing, give me a kid flying in under the raider who has had to work his ass off to achieve, like RV, Dungey and Jeremy Martin any day over a pampered kid who's been told he great all his life.
slipdog wrote:
I heard Stewy was an under preforming letdown.
UpTiTe wrote:
I wish I would've been that bad of a let down then.
Take it easy on yourself Uncle Rico. We all know you could've won state back in '79!!
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11/24/2015 5:51pm Edited Date/Time 11/24/2015 5:53pm
AC s only problem was he was physically to small and went straight from 85/supermini to pro. where the other riders took at least a year on the big bikes. the thing is I personally think forkner is going to add huge pressue to AC. I think that kid can deliver right away. crossing my fingers AC stays healthy hes a good kid
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11/24/2015 6:13pm
Hudd_421 wrote:
Im going to say similar to the Ryans
Yup, I agree. He's almost strangely unaware of how fast he is or much pressure he should be feeling. He races like he's out riding with some friends, and afterward, even if he wins, he never acts like he's a big deal. He's eerily humble. He's just happy to have ridden his dirt bike well, and that kind of calmness and lack of arrogance reminds me of the Ryans - big time.

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