Sean Collier getting blacklisted?

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Desperate to squash it? Oh brother. You know what I've noticed about most "rebels" that I've run across in the past? They spend just about zero...
Desperate to squash it? Oh brother.

You know what I've noticed about most "rebels" that I've run across in the past? They spend just about zero time touting their rebel status, and pointing out how "rebel" they are. People will figure it out on their own.
You mean true rebels, right?
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All I know is that when I saw the preview a couple weeks ago, I thought "huh, that looks kinda interesting, maybe I'll buy that when it comes out"... Now I'm not so sure
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Buying both the video AND a Fasthouse shirt. Call me Switzerland..I only want peace.
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Buying both the video AND a Fasthouse shirt. Call me Switzerland..I only want peace.
Buying both the video AND a Fasthouse shirt. Call me Switzerland..I only want peace.
AAAAH, MADNESS!! Grinning

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jstein639 wrote:
The deleted comment on instagram was by Debbie Gasper. If she actually posted that on IG, (the comment has since been deleted) I think it would...
The deleted comment on instagram was by Debbie Gasper. If she actually posted that on IG, (the comment has since been deleted) I think it would be pretty easy to deduce what happened to SC207's sponsors.
I'm not the only person to see it. She responded to me when i called her out sbout deleting it. I didn't screen cap it. I didn't think they would lie about him getting fired. Why take it off? She stated cleary why he got fired.

According to Collier they sat him down at coffee and told him that Fasthouse doesn't want to represent what he said in the video and he shoulf have told them he was going to say those things.
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I'm not the only person to see it. She responded to me when i called her out sbout deleting it. I didn't screen cap it. I didn't think they would lie about him getting fired. Why take it off? She stated cleary why he got fired.

According to Collier they sat him down at coffee and told him that Fasthouse doesn't want to represent what he said in the video and he should have told them he was going to say those things.

Sean isn't the type of guy that would argue or get upset. He made some phone calls to prior sponsors and posted on IG that he got some heat. Then moved on.
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Before this Collier vid i actually had never heard of proride. Funny going back and forth between vital and proride and reading the responces. The proride guys obviously arent fans of vital.
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seth505 9/23/2015 8:01am
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TailSoHard wrote:
All I know is that when I saw the preview a couple weeks ago, I thought "huh, that looks kinda interesting, maybe I'll buy that when...
All I know is that when I saw the preview a couple weeks ago, I thought "huh, that looks kinda interesting, maybe I'll buy that when it comes out"... Now I'm not so sure
Don't let people/responses sway your opinion. If you want to watch it, great, if not then that is fine as well. I feel like if Kyle really wanted to bait or trick people, then he would have posted one of those very fast 5-10 second clips of the Collier interview trying to drum it up. He posted his normal "preview" so I don't see a problem with the videographers tactics.
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TailSoHard wrote:
All I know is that when I saw the preview a couple weeks ago, I thought "huh, that looks kinda interesting, maybe I'll buy that when...
All I know is that when I saw the preview a couple weeks ago, I thought "huh, that looks kinda interesting, maybe I'll buy that when it comes out"... Now I'm not so sure
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Don't let people/responses sway your opinion. If you want to watch it, great, if not then that is fine as well. I feel like if Kyle...
Don't let people/responses sway your opinion. If you want to watch it, great, if not then that is fine as well. I feel like if Kyle really wanted to bait or trick people, then he would have posted one of those very fast 5-10 second clips of the Collier interview trying to drum it up. He posted his normal "preview" so I don't see a problem with the videographers tactics.
How in the shit is someones opinion swaying you from purchasing a video that costs $2.50?


Who gives a shit what all these people are say.

I will say I watched the video and truly enjoyed it, hopefully your opinion has just swayed the other way.
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tcook303 9/23/2015 9:03am
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This will be my last post on this, so pay attention.

As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the decision to leave a few sponsors all on his own. His reason for leaving those sponsors is his business and nobody else's. So please, stop speculating on what happened, because this is the TRUTH. The truth isn't coming from a troll that has been following this story for a week.
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This will be my last post on this, so pay attention. As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the...
This will be my last post on this, so pay attention.

As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the decision to leave a few sponsors all on his own. His reason for leaving those sponsors is his business and nobody else's. So please, stop speculating on what happened, because this is the TRUTH. The truth isn't coming from a troll that has been following this story for a week.
At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any factory teams.

10 people might care , for everyone else time marches on.
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tcook303 wrote:
This will be my last post on this, so pay attention. As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the...
This will be my last post on this, so pay attention.

As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the decision to leave a few sponsors all on his own. His reason for leaving those sponsors is his business and nobody else's. So please, stop speculating on what happened, because this is the TRUTH. The truth isn't coming from a troll that has been following this story for a week.
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At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any...
At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any factory teams.

10 people might care , for everyone else time marches on.
speak for yourself.

i'm doing some serious soul searching after this, maybe i'll buy a boat.
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For me personally , I dig Sean and what he's all about. But in saying that , I really dig the fasthouse gear and plan on getting a few jersey's to match some TLD pants. The stuff just looks really good in my eyes. Bummer hearing about what's going on , but damn , it aint none of my business.
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500guy wrote:
At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any...
At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any factory teams.

10 people might care , for everyone else time marches on.
Apparently 5 pages of people care.
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500guy 9/23/2015 9:37am
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Apparently 5 pages of people care.
of those 5 how many actually spend money on Collier or any of his Sponsors ?

10 maybe?
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I'd like to just add that today is a rest day at the gym. That means we work the rest of the body parts other than Chest n Biceps Bro!
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tcook303 9/23/2015 9:40am
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I'm not sure why it didn't post my whole reply. Here is the rest of what I wrote:

And FYI, I had a long conversation with Sean this morning as he was sitting on a roof in Woodland Hills. He has approved this message and approved this post for the public to see. And he's not happy with certain people twisting this story and/or putting words in his mouth. Please stop.

Also, he plans to set the record straight soon on his own social media outlet. Stay tuned.
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tcook303 wrote:
This will be my last post on this, so pay attention. As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the...
This will be my last post on this, so pay attention.

As I said already, Fasthouse did NOT drop Sean Collier. Sean Collier has made the decision to leave a few sponsors all on his own. His reason for leaving those sponsors is his business and nobody else's. So please, stop speculating on what happened, because this is the TRUTH. The truth isn't coming from a troll that has been following this story for a week.
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At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any...
At the end of the day, who really cares ? no disrespect but Sean Collier isn't well known enough or going to be racing on any factory teams.

10 people might care , for everyone else time marches on.
Not sure I follow your logic, only posts about the 5 guys making millions in mx are valid? Or only topics about guys on factory teams?

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Spankey 9/23/2015 9:48am
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I saw that he had been dropped by FMF and Fasthouse, presumably as a reaction to his Spectrum series episode where he spoke candidly about how...
I saw that he had been dropped by FMF and Fasthouse, presumably as a reaction to his Spectrum series episode where he spoke candidly about how chasing the dream in motocross is a rough road for most and comes with a lot of sufferage..

It seems to be a not so well hidden secret that this controversial video series has ruffled some feathers and caused shit to roll down hill. If FMF and Fasthouse were pressured into doing this from above, that really sucks for Sean. Riders should be encouraged to speak the truth, good or bad, and rather than trying to cover up the problems in the sport maybe they could be addressed instead.

I feel bad for Sean, he did nothing wrong but it seems like everyone is expected to just shut up and tow the line?

I hope this thread doesn't get yarded, let's try to keep it clean and not leave a reason for it to be snuffed. It would only validate the consipracy theorists.
When I was growing up my dad HATED sports with a passion. I didn't ride or race much growing up and when I had kids of my own our thing was Wrestling. And I can tell you there are those stupid-ass living a deam through your kids parents in every sport. I would at some time get a little competive and then realize that it's ony a sport. I get what he's saying about spending all that time and money chasing something but, ya got to keep it real so go out and buy a Lottery ticket and see what the odds are of winning! LOL!
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If Hope Solo and Richard Simons had a baby it wouldnt be as bizzare and confusing as this whole clam bake of a thread.
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G Force 9/23/2015 10:21am
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So, in a nutshell, Sean has not been blacklisted as the thread title suggests. Correct?
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Sandberm wrote:
If Hope Solo and Richard Simons had a baby it wouldnt be as bizzare and confusing as this whole clam bake of a thread.
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Speaking of Hope Solo, many people say she has an angry butt hole based on her leaked pics. I couldn't disagree more.

Back on topic, I'll never understand why some people do the things they do or say. Apparently to sell videos or whatever, and it ends up backfiring.

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Before this Collier vid i actually had never heard of proride. Funny going back and forth between vital and proride and reading the responces. The proride...
Before this Collier vid i actually had never heard of proride. Funny going back and forth between vital and proride and reading the responces. The proride guys obviously arent fans of vital.
And that's fine. Different strokes for different folks.
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I know the Fasthouse guys. They BLEED moto, family and values. Great people. Don't jump on the whole "I liked Fasthouse but now I will never...
I know the Fasthouse guys. They BLEED moto, family and values. Great people.

Don't jump on the whole "I liked Fasthouse but now I will never buy" bandwagon unless you know the whole story and not because a couple posts on message board.

I know nothing about Sean Collier or this situation, but when you have Little D jump on here which he rarely does and paint a far different picture than what was painted, Along with DC who seems to be blindsided by these comments, I would tend to start looking the other way as far as anything goes. Two sides to every story.
Hmmmm, i remember you not getting both sides of the story before going to print a while back.
Water under the bridge, mate.
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It sounds like the film producer is using the 'shock and awe' method to promote the purchase of his movies. While it seems to have worked, I would not be the least surprised if some form of defamation lawsuit was filed by some of the names he has thrown under the bus.
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Do you remember playing the "Telephone" game? By the time the "he said" and "she said" gets back around, it's a completely different story than the...
Do you remember playing the "Telephone" game? By the time the "he said" and "she said" gets back around, it's a completely different story than the truth. The truth is, you've always been a stand-up guy and I'm sure you will continue to prove that.

#dontbanmebro
Yeah I remember that game, then I'd be like "Hey man, did you talk to Tone?" The dude on the other line would be like "Who?" then I'd be like "dialTone MutthaEffa!" and hang up.

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GuyB 9/23/2015 11:13am
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tcook303 wrote:
I'm not sure why it didn't post my whole reply. Here is the rest of what I wrote: And FYI, I had a long conversation with...
I'm not sure why it didn't post my whole reply. Here is the rest of what I wrote:

And FYI, I had a long conversation with Sean this morning as he was sitting on a roof in Woodland Hills. He has approved this message and approved this post for the public to see. And he's not happy with certain people twisting this story and/or putting words in his mouth. Please stop.

Also, he plans to set the record straight soon on his own social media outlet. Stay tuned.
Thanks, tcook.
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I have no idea what is really going on behind behind the scenes but just being in business for as long as I have, here is...
I have no idea what is really going on behind behind the scenes but just being in business for as long as I have, here is my prediction on how it will end. DC will walk away unscathed and unfazed, SC will lose a sponsor or 2 and a handful of fans but pick a couple of both up to replace them and Kyle will get the shit end of the stick. That is in no way representative of who I think is telling the whole truth, it's just how I know things like this to play out. Hierarchy is king and the hierarchy usually determines the winner regardless of the truth. Sad but true.

That is of course unless Kyle has all of the emails and text messages from DC and the other sponsors. Then the shit could potentially hit the fan.
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Very true perspective...As for the emails you may or not be refferencing, they were floating around amoungst inner circles of the offroad community. Didnt see with my own eyes but know they exist. As for ever expecting them to be posted, I doubt it. If the intention was to call out the industry as a whole, maybe it did just that but I really doubt any pissing contest will ever go that far on here. If it does, good chance it may disapear.
As for comments about proride being anti Vital, I can see why. I've never been on that site but there are some people starstruck that someone like DC or LiLE would respond to a thread that they are involved in, they will believe anything. While I believe those guys are good stewards of our sport for the mostpart (VS some of the other powers to be anyway) I still find it hard to believe that they would own up to such accusations put against them by a bunch of no face vital accounts.
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Regis 9/23/2015 11:21am
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Regis wrote:
I know the Fasthouse guys. They BLEED moto, family and values. Great people. Don't jump on the whole "I liked Fasthouse but now I will never...
I know the Fasthouse guys. They BLEED moto, family and values. Great people.

Don't jump on the whole "I liked Fasthouse but now I will never buy" bandwagon unless you know the whole story and not because a couple posts on message board.

I know nothing about Sean Collier or this situation, but when you have Little D jump on here which he rarely does and paint a far different picture than what was painted, Along with DC who seems to be blindsided by these comments, I would tend to start looking the other way as far as anything goes. Two sides to every story.
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Hmmmm, i remember you not getting both sides of the story before going to print a while back.
Water under the bridge, mate.
Really? Enlighten me. Seriously. If I was wrong to comment about anything I will own it. Set me straight.

I have no idea what you are talking about or who you are. It doesn't really matter who you are, but I'm curious as to what I may have not got both sides to the story on and "went to print", seeing how I haven't went to print in anything over 5 years or so.

Was it on here? Inquiring minds want to know! Seriously, it all a good. I'm just curious.

Edit- I think I know as I have looked at your profile. But it wasn't two sides of the story, it was a comment I made on here that was taken way out of context. The rider and I talked, and it took all but 15 seconds to shake hands and laugh it off. That's all I can think of.. If it's something else, I'm clueless.
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Very true perspective...As for the emails you may or not be refferencing, they were floating around amoungst inner circles of the offroad community. Didnt see with...
Very true perspective...As for the emails you may or not be refferencing, they were floating around amoungst inner circles of the offroad community. Didnt see with my own eyes but know they exist. As for ever expecting them to be posted, I doubt it. If the intention was to call out the industry as a whole, maybe it did just that but I really doubt any pissing contest will ever go that far on here. If it does, good chance it may disapear.
As for comments about proride being anti Vital, I can see why. I've never been on that site but there are some people starstruck that someone like DC or LiLE would respond to a thread that they are involved in, they will believe anything. While I believe those guys are good stewards of our sport for the mostpart (VS some of the other powers to be anyway) I still find it hard to believe that they would own up to such accusations put against them by a bunch of no face vital accounts.
Owning up to something is different than coming on here saying it never happened.

it seems like the biggest reaction is from Collier and the film maker.

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