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This new silencer is huge, but the materials used make it fairly light.
When you put one of these massive silencers on a two stroke, they get quiet. Moped like was mentioned. Its not cool, but in that "probably legal" riding spot, I'm wearing out sets of tires getting the police called.hats well worth 400.00. Actually, its closer to 200.00 if you dont need titanium.
2lbs heavier and on the track vs 2 lbs lighter and on the trailer? Tough choice.
Thank you Donny Jr. for the post, truly great first post ! Quality not quantity.
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And considering people are still buying four strokes (and all the marketing hype) I wouldn't try to make any sense of any of this. In 2015 the 250 four strokes have pretty much matched the performance of a 25 year old CR250R and we call this an Improvement to the sport
Edit - well, one of them isn't alive yet.
FMF silencers, just their basic two-stroke silencer, compared to the PC R304... the FMF is superior in every way. build quality is better, sound is better too. Plus, FMF makes their own stuff. PC hasn't made their stuff since 92/93 when they started sending everything to Mr. Matthews. but with that being said, the R304 is still a great silencer.
Now, FMF, if we could just get you folks to make 300cc specific pipes for all the 300s that are out there now (YZ/RM) that would be greeeaaaat. DEP is killing you in that area.
offset valve float with the heavier valves......but they run lighter springs
with Ti......hmmm maybe the valves are hollow? This engine stuff is
REALLY confusing, lets get back to exhaust stuff-especially concerning
two strokes!
I have their products on both my bikes (300xc and 350XC)
As others have said, if the market supports a product, and it sells, any company will continue to keep a product on the market. FMF is looking at new ways to make money, plan and simple.. If they cancel their less expensive silencers and only off the expensive big new smoker pipe, thats different.
I do think they need to fire their clothing manager.. I would love to wear their shit, but I will not walk around looking like a MM bro-tard and their stuff is tailored for those types.. Big, loud and cheap.. No thanks.. I get my tees from peeps like Troy Lee who make nice looking premium stuff.
On my 2013 450SX, I had a FMF silencer because I needed a spark arrestor. The FMF model eliminated the spring between the head pipe and the silencer. This spring acts like a vibration dampener and helps prevent fretting between the two pieces of the exhaust system. After about 100hrs of use, I developed an exhaust leak because of fretting. This meant both pieces needed to be replaced (header and silencer) I called to talk to customer service and some dumbs kid answered the phone within 30 seconds was nice enough to explain to me how FMF had "race teams" and they knew exactly what they were doing, and if that spring needed be there, FMF would have put one there. I knew then I was talking to an idiot and there was no point trying to explain my point any further.
In closing.. FMF is great.. Like any company they have issues. If you don't want the expansive new bling 2 smoke pipe, don't buy it.. Its that simple..
Oh yeah, install the fucking spring, or at least the taps, that connects between the header and the silencer.. Ill happily explain to people who don't understand why the idiots at KTM installed that spring in the first place.
I have their products on both my bikes (300xc and 350XC)
As others have said, if the market supports a product, and it sells, any company will continue to keep a product on the market. FMF is looking at new ways to make money, plan and simple.. If they cancel their less expensive silencers and only off the expensive big new smoker pipe, thats different.
I do think they need to fire their clothing manager.. I would love to wear their shit, but I will not walk around looking like a MM bro-tard and their stuff is tailored for those types.. Big, loud and cheap.. No thanks.. I get my tees from peeps like Troy Lee who make nice looking premium stuff.
On my 2013 450SX, I had a FMF silencer because I needed a spark arrestor. The FMF model eliminated the spring between the head pipe and the silencer. This spring acts like a vibration dampener and helps prevent fretting between the two pieces of the exhaust system. After about 100hrs of use, I developed an exhaust leak because of fretting. This meant both pieces needed to be replaced (header and silencer) I called to talk to customer service and some dumbs kid answered the phone within 30 seconds was nice enough to explain to me how FMF had "race teams" and they knew exactly what they were doing, and if that spring needed be there, FMF would have put one there. I knew then I was talking to an idiot and there was no point trying to explain my point any further.
In closing.. FMF is great.. Like any company they have issues. If you don't want the expansive new bling 2 smoke pipe, don't buy it.. Its that simple..
Oh yeah, install the spring, or at least the taps, that connects between the header and the silencer.. Ill happily explain to people who don't understand why the idiots at KTM installed that spring in the first place.
Don, thanks for posting.. At the end of the day, nothing but love here.. My criticism is constructive.. Clean premium tees, and a dampening spring on your 4 stroke exhaust systems, and I'll be a 100% happy camper.
Thats how nice the quiet is with this silencer. I'm willing to settle for D+ build quality just to have quiet.
FMF $400 Titanium boat anchor is a little over the top...
Hey, at least it's tax deductible though.
And as far as the "boat anchor" title...I'd want something with a bit more weight than a sweet titanium silencer anchoring my boat. But that's just me.
Shane
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I love it and want to give props to FMF for offering options.
Had the regular Ti for a while and wanted to support a company that still believes in 2 strokes.
I got one as soon as they hit Munn Racing in TX. Finish is top notch and install was a breeze.
Yes it's a a higher than usual price but not outrageous. Anyway a dirt bike is a silly expense for me. I'm a slow vet, don't race anymore but this is my passion.
FMF is giving us choice from entry level to high end so why the rant?
As pointed out by some here, if their only offering turns to be products in the high end price range, then I'll move away from it.
And to be fair it's a business and they have to make sure they cover the market as much as they can.
I have nothing against modern 4 strokes. Beautiful machines, packing some cool tech. I had a few but think they became more disposable toys than anything else.
I still see a fair number of smokers from the 90's on the tracks around here. People like me, just looking for some good time. Most of the first gen thumpers are just gone. Too complex and costly to fix for the average guy.
If Don Jr from FMF read this post, please contact me.
I burned most of my money on an unnecessary paper weight stamped FMF (and to make it worst got their pipe that rust so easily!!) but still have a little bit left and would like to make a modest donation to the KC66 foundation.
And good on you for being willing to make that donation to the KC Foundation. I believe you can do it direct through them and don't need Don to point you there.
Thanks for donating!!!
Shane
Fess up buddy and send in the grand. Two grand if it dynos out, right?
Shane
Thanks
Donny Emler Jr
Thanks
Donny Emler Jr
BTW did you see the movie Ted? There is a testicle reference.
You're mistaken about PC not building their own stuff. I am not sure however if PC builds everything at the their pipe manufacturing facility on Railroad St but it has been there for years.
This thread delivers.
Btw, it's nice to see a brand step-up and represent.
That's another Hundy to the KC66 Foundation just cause I'm lovin' it.
Feelings mutual on the apology but I'm not sure either one of us needs to. Still appreciate the nice gesture...a lot We are both just passionate and that's a beautiful thing.
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