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Fanboys, rock on though......
Do not worry I think he was I think just sarcastic and it was pretty funny.
Again the first post is sarcastic I think, everyone knows for instance how Nagl, on the same bike as Dungey, is just hauling. We can't predict an outcome, experience from transfers from both sides proved it. He could go 1-1 or 3-3 just depending on the starts.
Or maybe my sarcarm meter is not working properly
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Reed never wanted to do GP's. He had too to show results to get to America. GP's do not get to claim Reed, it was never his dream just a step he had to take to achieve his dreams.
Tortelli is a guy I wish never came to America, he was so so fast at outdoors. One of the only guys to ever straight up run RC down in good conditions on a 250/450(only KW,JS and himself did that) yet he get smoked all the time in SX a real shame. If he stayed in Europe Everts numbers would be way way down, hell his first race back in the GP's he gave Everts all he could handle after not racing MX for over a year and split motos with him.
Non the less only one GP champ has ever won MX and SX titles in the big boy class. JMB, I am a firm believer that Roczen will be next.
As far as Dungey Four years ago I remember him winning his class at the MxDN. As far as borrowed bike for Simpson, he loved that thing and loves the bike he is on now, the 2016 is better than the 15 he was riding in every single way. Like I said I am fanning the flames...... It is crazy though when you look at all the years I listed in my original post and all of those guys tried most with at least some success but only one took all the trophies home. Which is why the AMA IMO has more talent. We get the home grown talent and over half of the MX2 world champs.
(I preferred both Albertyn and Tortelli to Everts during the 90's)
2. He would win at Glen Helen. Don't kid yourself into thinking he wouldn't. AMA guys train there all the time, and Dungey is the top AMA guy right now.
3. Don't use Villopoto this year as a shell of his former self as a measuring stick. Everyone who has watched him throughout his career knows that wasn't 2013 Villopoto.
4. The GP tracks are different and they don't groom it as much, but that doesn't mean they suck. There are some great GP tracks that every rider enjoys.
5. Just because it's a different surface doesn't mean they aren't racing. There's far more track variety in the GPs.
Just read again what you have posted compared to how you THINK you come across , believe me you are not the neutral guy you think you are !!!
Also , if you just don't care about any AMA v GP type threads , which obviously ALWAYS turn into a dick measuring contest , why the fuck do you always feel the need to pipe up ?
Once again , you say one thing , but then post the opposite !
I think its very telling that you commented IF I said that , take it from me Jerkfro , you did say that , but the fact that you don't fucking know what you are posting , pretty much sums you up !
As far as Dungey, his comment about the tracks is his opinion. There are of course a bunch of tracks that he doesn't like and he think they are crap. But that the best riders in the world are racing the Nationals is a false statement and very surprising coming from a guy that has been beaten badly by GP riders on every possible occation these last years. Don't forget that he'd have a longer path to the championship if RV2, JS7, ET and TC41 had been there in shape and healthy from the beginning of this championship.
I am sure Reecky Kerrenikhahell, Gerhemmy Macgerafff and Setefann Haverts would agree with this ...
So Youthstream would also need to change their calendar to bring the MXdN forward, but I cant see that happening. Firstly Luongos ego won't like pandering to the needs of the US guys, and secondly we have to make the best of the weather in Europe and September tends to be one of the better months of the year for racing.
I can see the US pulling out of the MXdN in the not so distant future, especially now the energy drinks companies are putting so much emphasis on these circus events.
I hope all the top euro's decide to stay home when the Nations next goes to the US because they need a rest.. if the USGP is a bust , i can see Luongo telling them to poke it , and taking the Nations elsewhere citing lack of support from the US MX industry in general , and who would blame him.
2015 .. the year that promised so much and delivered nothing , RV against the World ended up being a total embarrassment , the USGP should have been the event to top the year off and its ended up like this, like i said before , in 10 years time , all the apologists will look back and realise just what a total missed opportunity this was , a home and away race , 2 weekends on the bounce, if only people had the stones to do it.
It's not about needing 4 months to prepare for SX either. How about some time to recover and heal from injuries?!?
In the US we run 2 different series to 1 of the GP's. What it takes you essentially a year to complete, it takes 4 months here.
Goddamn, some of you just need to enjoy the differences in the racing from the GP's and the Nationals and quit making everything a dick measuring contest.
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on a saturday you have the WMX EMX125 or EMX250 on a weekend they have their timed practice and one single moto on saturday, next to it the MX2 and MX1 both have a free practice, timed practice, and a qualifying race !
At the end of the day the track is rough as hell and they dont groom it down anymore beceause that is motocross !
on the sunday the track is just as it was on saturday
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So I really think they don't care if a bunch of people (mostly from Europe) think they don't have the stones.
He has lost my respect now.
So you are quite happy that there is a race on in your MX industries back yard , but most folk are crying off.
I want to see the best guys race the best guys, is that too much to ask?
That's a very impressive list you have quoted there old chap , but in the interest of fairness , could you please list the actual riders ,
You have quoted 18 different title winners there , so lets have them ,
Go on , I will start you off , 1989 MX1 ( 500CC ) world champion was Dave Thorpe , and as we all remember Dave spent many years racing the AMA nationals didn,t he ?
Also just to even it up a little ,
The 07 , 11 , 12 , 13 & 14 supercross champions and the 06 , 07 , 08 , 11 & 13 National champions have crossed the other way
Especially in Dungey's case. The guy can't catch a break. If he doesn't race the GP or the des Nations, he's ridiculed. If he does and wins he's ridiculed bc so and so wasn't there. If he races them and gets beat, he's ridiculed bc he sux blah, blah, blah.
The dude put off his honeymoon last year because he was essentially forced to ride the des nations. And what thanks did he get??? Everyone blasted him because had RV gone or had James gone USA wouldnt have gotten beat. Its complete bullshit. Anyone....and I mean anyone, can be beat on any given weekend. He has gone the last 6 yrs in a row. He's come off a career year in wins and 2 championships. Let the guy have some down time and catch his breath.
Also, remember your GP guys don't race for purse money. There's no real incentive for the US guys to race it unless they are being compensated from the factories, sponsors, etc.
I just thought of this as well. Do you think the GP guys going for a title really want a US guy coming in and affecting the championship??? How pissed whould you be if lets say Martin took out Anstie in the last moto because they were battling for the overall and it cost Max the championship?
I like the GP's as much as I like the Nationals. I just think they are different and respect each one of the series. I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of Loungo. I think he's a crook. I still think the Des Nations is an AWESOME event but just like LL's, you can be the fastest dude all year, BUT have an off week and you become dog shit. Hahahahaha
1988 JMB, 1992 Albertyn 96 Seb, 97,98,99 Chiodi 2000 Langston, 01 Dobb, 04 BT101, 06 CP377, 08 Tyla, 09,10 MM and Finally Roczen in 11. On the 250/450/MX1 1989, JMB 1993,94 Albee 1998 Seb
The guy that crossed the other way does hold a 25% MX1 win ratio in his first try across the pond in races completed, not great but certainly not bad.
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