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I'm 36 and have been racing for almost 30 years. What's vintage to me isn't vintage to a lot of other guys. A Maico guy in his 60's told me at the Washougal VMX last year...if they don't start figuring out the classes and opening things up to more modern bikes Vintage MX will die. The 70s generation teenagers aren't going to keep going too many more years. So some of the vintage purists want to keep vintage pre 74 and no linkage or water-cooling and what not. I've done some events..and although they have classes for up to 90s era bikes these classes are usually combined and treated as more of "support classes."
Fact is the 80s/ Evo/Revolution or whatever you want to call it class is growing like crazy and has a ton of potential (easier to find parts, better bikes, more potentially available riders).
I think it's dumb to simply classify bikes by technology.
"This 83 has a front disc so it goes in a different class than this 83" Thats ridiculous.
The new technology wasn't always superior to the year old bike. My watercooled Cagiva 125 isn't any faster than an air cooled 125....yet because it's water cooled it gets put in an Unlimited Open class with 500s?? I want to race 125's with 125's.
So my question is...how do you split up the 80s/90s classes, keep them fair, not too complicated? Everyone seems to be doing it differently. I think the UK idea of just Pre 89 works well and is simple.
With regard to the tangent this discussion's taken, yes, all non-modern bikes need to be supported.
We're at the point now, where we should be looking as far along as creating a class for the early 00's thumpers / last of the 2T's.
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About the AHRMA guy comment. When the current group of late 40+ year olds are gone, so will vintage mx. Kind of like the WW2 vets quiety dropping out little by little.
I hope to see a revision to keep it going but what do i care? Ill be plsying golf somewhere
I build and ride/tinker. Although I'm not chasing anymore AHRMA championships (did that back in 2012 after a 6 year layoff, finished 2nd nationally and received a wooden plaque with a laminated decal that was starting peel off when I took the plaque out of the envelope). Not worth my effort to travel the country for...but I will ride/race here and there for sure.
I have mixed feelings on the repopped gear issue. I want that stuff, and have a couple of things, including one from MXM a few years ago. I doubt the marks on each were licensed so that the originator who created the value of the trademark was compensated for what he created, or at least given the opportunity to
I have a lot of respect for the folks who take the time to license trademarks and sell legit stuff. Whatever you feel about Kandel, when he started the Wonder Warthog thing he when to Gilbert Shelton, the surviving creator, and licensed the rights. I'm frustrated when mark holders won't play and give permission for something that clearly has no threat to their brand.
Anyway, everyone is expendable on a board like this. No one here is punished by another leaving. even when he thinks he's taking his ball home to spite people.
Im still kind of lost on what angered MXM. I had always taken him as a knowledgeable vmx guy he was treated like anyone else here.
I used to think all the time i spent on Motodrive was wasted in front of a monitor reading verbal assaults between members. But now i think the infighting had only toughened me to the Internet because I find this group of old men pretty docile
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