Another rider lost, and decision to hang it up

elementmx
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Edited Date/Time 6/6/2015 7:37am
We all know of tragedies at the track but usually only receive word of them from our computer screen hundreds of miles away. About an hour after I left a local practice day yesterday I got a phone call from a good friend who was still at the track describing a horrific scene. A rider apparently endo'd over a medium-large size tabletop with an extension and succumbed to his injuries right at the track. Really, really sad and scary. I don't think its my place to share name or track details. May he rest in peace.


I'm also posting because this literally hit very close to home for me and I'm immediately struggling (again) with the decision to hang up my boots. I raced locally in the A class up until a few years ago, when a crash I consider myself lucky to have gotten out of with only a broken femur scared me away for about a year. I came back and rode last year, just got a new bike, and was ready to get after it and have some fun riding and racing again this year too. I truly love this sport and wouldn't trade the riding/racing memories I have for anything. And I'm a pretty good rider when I'm feelin it! Lol

At the same time, I'm 26, have a great family, amazing fiance, I'm back in school for engineering, and feel like I have bright future ahead of me. My circumstances combined with what happened yesterday really have me leaning towards walking away from moto while I still can.

A lot of dummies post here but I know there are some intelligent folks with a lot of life experience as well. I'd appreciate any advice you have to offer.

Thanks.




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6/5/2015 8:53am
it's a personal choice, the only advice I would give is do not ride or race if you have any doubt, that is where the real danger is.

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6/5/2015 8:53am
if you have those thoughts it's probably time to quit MX..................but maybe not riding all together Unsure


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6/5/2015 8:53am
prayers to the family.

buy a TTR guy and look into "Mad Dog" flat track racing. Its a blast and way safer!
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6/5/2015 9:03am
I know in this sport, anything can happen. With that said, I believe you can minimize the risk by how and what you ride and still enjoy the sport.

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6/5/2015 9:07am
If you're having "second thoughts" while your pulling on to or while you're on the track. Stop riding for a while and "take stock" of your situation and see if there's a true desire...indeed passion...to keep riding.

Don't sweat the fact that you're thinking about it...

When things like this happen...it's an intelligent person that stops and takes an honest look at his own situation.

I send my condolences to the rider's family & your local moto-community.

Manny
6/5/2015 9:08am
True bummer. Like others said only you can decide to race and you have to be all in or don't do it. However there's many other outlets to moto other then mx.
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6/5/2015 9:22am
EEE299 wrote:
I know in this sport, anything can happen. With that said, I believe you can minimize the risk by how and what you ride and still...
I know in this sport, anything can happen. With that said, I believe you can minimize the risk by how and what you ride and still enjoy the sport.
This is certainly true. I've always been a fairly smooth rider and now I try even more to take as few risks out there as possible and ride in control. This definitely lessens the risk but never eliminates. Also easier said than done when you're trying to ride to your full capabilities.
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6/5/2015 9:24am
I strongly believe in going with the your gut feeling no matter what any of us say. I gave it up around your age for a number of reasons, but came back 22 years later as a heavy-weight (overweight) vintage guy and its all about the fun factor now. The sport never leaves your blood, it just lays dormant. Good luck on whatever you do and may the fella that lost his life RIP.
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6/5/2015 9:26am
I wish our sport could go more towards rougher tracks and away from smooth tracks with big jumps.

I kind of got burnt out on going to my local track to ride in the fall and feeling like a pussy because I didnt want to do( what I thought) were the big jumps.

So, I switched to going out in the desert, carving out my own track amidst the sagebrush and pounding out laps...day dreaming I was fast again.Sideways
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6/5/2015 9:29am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2015 9:30am
Nothing wrong with just taking a long break either. It can do the mind good. Come back into when you have your mind strait , and without any distractions. Hanging up the boots forever , is well , forever. Don't rob yourself of that in one hastily decision. If you're healthy and you want to ride , there is no reason you shouldn't unless your mind isn't into it. Like I said , get your mind strait , make a informative decision and go from there. Good luck and whoever the rider was that passed away , RIP moto brother.
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6/5/2015 9:33am
Sandberm wrote:
I wish our sport could go more towards rougher tracks and away from smooth tracks with big jumps. I kind of got burnt out on going...
I wish our sport could go more towards rougher tracks and away from smooth tracks with big jumps.

I kind of got burnt out on going to my local track to ride in the fall and feeling like a pussy because I didnt want to do( what I thought) were the big jumps.

So, I switched to going out in the desert, carving out my own track amidst the sagebrush and pounding out laps...day dreaming I was fast again.Sideways
I have been on a hiatus from my local track for the same reason,, Then discovered that folks have been building a shit tonne of cool trails in the woods behind my house, and now I have been riding them every other day.. one day i ride my mt bike then the next i'm on one of my 125's on the trails.. Having a blast and riding with a smile..
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6/5/2015 9:34am
Thoughts with the riders family and friends.... Very sad to hear.
As for hanging up your boots, don't. Just look for another outlet, as mentioned above, dual sport, vintage bike etc, just getting an old girl fired up after 12 months sweat and tears and then finishing a moto can feel every bit as good as sending a big jump.
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6/5/2015 9:35am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2015 9:36am
elementmx wrote:
We all know of tragedies at the track but usually only receive word of them from our computer screen hundreds of miles away. About an hour...
We all know of tragedies at the track but usually only receive word of them from our computer screen hundreds of miles away. About an hour after I left a local practice day yesterday I got a phone call from a good friend who was still at the track describing a horrific scene. A rider apparently endo'd over a medium-large size tabletop with an extension and succumbed to his injuries right at the track. Really, really sad and scary. I don't think its my place to share name or track details. May he rest in peace.


I'm also posting because this literally hit very close to home for me and I'm immediately struggling (again) with the decision to hang up my boots. I raced locally in the A class up until a few years ago, when a crash I consider myself lucky to have gotten out of with only a broken femur scared me away for about a year. I came back and rode last year, just got a new bike, and was ready to get after it and have some fun riding and racing again this year too. I truly love this sport and wouldn't trade the riding/racing memories I have for anything. And I'm a pretty good rider when I'm feelin it! Lol

At the same time, I'm 26, have a great family, amazing fiance, I'm back in school for engineering, and feel like I have bright future ahead of me. My circumstances combined with what happened yesterday really have me leaning towards walking away from moto while I still can.

A lot of dummies post here but I know there are some intelligent folks with a lot of life experience as well. I'd appreciate any advice you have to offer.

Thanks.




nothing wrong with deciding that enough is enough. it was a hard decision for me, about 18 years of dedication and i had to make the same decision. i only ride trail and offroad now and i enjoy it more than anything in life. the racing scene is over for me for good, and i'm ok with that.

sorry to hear about the loss of a fellow moto-brother. best of luck with your decisions, wear them proud.
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6/5/2015 9:35am
My situation is a little different than yours, but i have the same concerns. I was never a really fast guy and never went beyond just racing at the local level. I quit racing and riding altogether for about 10 years during my teen years to focus on other sports. I bought a bike a couple years ago after my son started riding a PW50 with the thoughts that it would be something we could do together. But i'll be honest, the sport doesn't even seem recognizable to me in comparison to when I was a kid. The consequences just seem so much steeper now for some reason. When I was racing, broken bones were common and all you really heard about. Now, broken bones seem like you're getting off easy. I'm self-employed and will be taking over my family business very soon. I'm also married with two kids that depend on me. With that being said, I don't even ride my motocross bike anymore and have thought about selling it just to avoid the temptation. I may very well get back into when my kids are older, but for now, the cons outweigh the pros.
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6/5/2015 9:37am
TeamGreen wrote:
If you're having "second thoughts" while your pulling on to or while you're on the track. Stop riding for a while and "take stock" of your...
If you're having "second thoughts" while your pulling on to or while you're on the track. Stop riding for a while and "take stock" of your situation and see if there's a true desire...indeed passion...to keep riding.

Don't sweat the fact that you're thinking about it...

When things like this happen...it's an intelligent person that stops and takes an honest look at his own situation.

I send my condolences to the rider's family & your local moto-community.

Manny
I agree here too and thanks for the input.

I know very well what its like to have passion for riding and everything about it. I have to say though the few times I've gone riding so far this year my primary objective has just been to stay safe because I have to much other life stuff going on. Its almost like I've been running on 'forced' passion, or memories of passion I once had. The fear of getting seriously hurt and throwing away everything i have outside of moto just won't leave my mind.

So Im pretty sure I know the right decision for me at this point. I think the advice taken here, and writing this all out is something I needed therapeutically. As silly as it sounds, participating in this sport has been such a huge part of my life and as many of you know its so damn hard to quit!
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6/5/2015 9:41am
Sandberm wrote:
I wish our sport could go more towards rougher tracks and away from smooth tracks with big jumps. I kind of got burnt out on going...
I wish our sport could go more towards rougher tracks and away from smooth tracks with big jumps.

I kind of got burnt out on going to my local track to ride in the fall and feeling like a pussy because I didnt want to do( what I thought) were the big jumps.

So, I switched to going out in the desert, carving out my own track amidst the sagebrush and pounding out laps...day dreaming I was fast again.Sideways
rosebud441 wrote:
I have been on a hiatus from my local track for the same reason,, Then discovered that folks have been building a shit tonne of cool...
I have been on a hiatus from my local track for the same reason,, Then discovered that folks have been building a shit tonne of cool trails in the woods behind my house, and now I have been riding them every other day.. one day i ride my mt bike then the next i'm on one of my 125's on the trails.. Having a blast and riding with a smile..
I used to have my own little private riding spot(about 60 acres)with a natural terrain mx track i carved out . It was a sweet track and made me fast .But the area in the middle of the property had a forest of russian olive trees and cottonwoods etc, so I got my pruning sheers out and cut down enough branches in the bramble to make a real tight twisty harescrambles track amidst the trees and brush. FUN!!! I never got out of third gear and would have a complete blast weaving my way through the brush.

Trail ridng is fun for sure and a great break from mx.Smile
6/5/2015 9:59am
like somebody said before, you can have fun on a dirtbike without competing in races. After quitting I enjoy working on my riding technique calmly and undriven more than I did before with all the self imposed pressure.

condolences to the riders family, always unbearable to hear such bad news
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6/5/2015 10:06am
Just shared the news story on my fb before reading this as it is in my area. Rip rider
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6/5/2015 10:13am Edited Date/Time 6/5/2015 10:16am
My story is similar to yours all the way down to the local A level and broken femur. Sounds like the wreck did something similar to you where you focused more on the rest of your life and began getting that in order, which is a wise move. I stopped racing after my accident, started other sports, graduated college and got a good job all while riding off and on for fun during the past 8 years. I’ve always known the risk I take whenever I ride, but I never quite had the thought of stopping entirely. I just stay in decent shape and ride within my limits by recognizing what’s not worth the risk and putting my ego or pride aside at times.

Luckily once you’ve gotten to a fairly high skill level, riding within your limits is still a pretty quick and fun pace. Yea I might get hurt riding, but it’s a major part of my identity and what I love. There’s risk in everything, just be smart.
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6/5/2015 10:18am
Whenever I think about quitting motocross because it is too dangerous I remind myself I am more likely to be killed in a car accident on my way home from work..if I had quit motocross and died in a car crash I would be pissed Blink
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6/5/2015 10:20am
Sorry to hear about that brother. Only you can answer whether or not the passion for moto is something you can live without, or replace. Bear in mind accidents happen every day in all aspects of life. I read the other day about a dude that died on his mtb, a couple of guys skydiving, 250 some odd on a ferry boat. It's a part of the circle of life and for me the scarier scenario is ending up in a chair. But I live to ride moto, mtb, ski, etc and life just isn't very interesting without those things.

Somebody mentioned that we are seeing this more often, but I am not convinced of that. Without a doubt there is more information being shared and thus we hear about these stories more often.

It has also been a common theme recently about tracking injuries/deaths and the surrounding circumstances. I think this is definitely data that needs to be shared when the time is appropriate.
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6/5/2015 10:45am
I don't have the desire to do jumps any more...I haven't for years. And lost the desire to ride for a while. Then I found off road...and I've never had more fun on a motorcycle.

Mountain Single track...desert single track.

Fire roads and fast double track.

Going out to the desert and carving out a turn track and riding it for hours.

There are ENDLESS possibilities for riding a dirt bike outside of a motocross track.

I'm trying to figure out a way to get into trials (well, to get a trials bike), and start working on that kind of riding...if you watch any Johnny Walker, or Graham Jarvis vids they post on facebook/instagram...its unbelievable what they can do on a bike, and though I have no thought of EVER being able to do what they do....it just goes to show that the possibilities are absolutely endless for what can be done on a dirt bike.

And whether someone is a die hard moto guy, or die hard off road guy...progression (getting better each time you're on the bike is what makes riding fun).

Kurt Caselli said in Moto 4 (I think) that the better you get, the more possibilities there...so true.

Anyway, I hate to see people give up riding just because they don't want to moto any more.
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6/5/2015 10:51am
you don't have to rush a decision is all I would say. Take some time and listen to your gut instinct on what is best for you.
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6/5/2015 10:53am
mxpro252 wrote:
My story is similar to yours all the way down to the local A level and broken femur. Sounds like the wreck did something similar to...
My story is similar to yours all the way down to the local A level and broken femur. Sounds like the wreck did something similar to you where you focused more on the rest of your life and began getting that in order, which is a wise move. I stopped racing after my accident, started other sports, graduated college and got a good job all while riding off and on for fun during the past 8 years. I’ve always known the risk I take whenever I ride, but I never quite had the thought of stopping entirely. I just stay in decent shape and ride within my limits by recognizing what’s not worth the risk and putting my ego or pride aside at times.

Luckily once you’ve gotten to a fairly high skill level, riding within your limits is still a pretty quick and fun pace. Yea I might get hurt riding, but it’s a major part of my identity and what I love. There’s risk in everything, just be smart.
Very similar indeed. I was finishing college right when I had my scary femur crash. It completely made me step back and focus on other aspects of my life. I graduated college, got a good job, did new things just like you. Then moto came callling back and i got into it again for the past couple years. But aside from what happened yesterday, Im also sort of at another crossroads in life, settling down with a girl, going back to school, and I think that has a lot to do with it.

Lots of good points and feedback here, thank you everyone. If I continue on riding I think it will definitely be very mellow natural type tracks when i can find them, or some trails. Technical ruts and turns are my favorite thing to ride anyways.
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6/5/2015 11:00am
You can get seriously hurt working a normal 9-5 Job, and now days with jobs if or when you get hurt on the job, the job will fire you or "Lay you off".

I have more injuries from working my Job for the past 28 years then I ever got from riding and racing motorcycles, and as for Death, you do not want to die slowly in some hospital bed in pain and misery. We all are going to Die regardless.
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6/5/2015 11:01am
It's so sad to hear another rider has passed thoughts go out to the family... I would say that the only person that can make that call should be yourself with some family input and opinion. I lost my sister in 2011 and I took a year off and wanted nothing to do with racing or riding anymore, I've slowly gotten back into it and still love it. I don't ride as hard anymore, I just have fun. It wont ever be the same but its what I love and what she loved so I still ride because my best memories are at the track as a family. Crazy things happen for reasons we will never know, it hurts to know that anyone has to lose a loved one doing something he/she loves. the one thing that losing my sister taught me was that life is a day by day thing, there is nothing about the future we can control, do the things that make you happy and life will take you where it was meant to go.
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6/5/2015 11:04am
Motocross has gotten more dangerous, the combination of tracks, bikes, and bikes allowing others to ride above their ability makes racing or even practicing a bigger risk than it was 20 years ago. Going out and having fun on a motorcycle is only as dangerous as you make it, anyone who tells you that pounding out lap after lap on a motocross track is more fun than three or four hours riding in the woods is either lying or has never done it. Motocross is more challenging, possibly more thrilling, adrenalin inducing, etc. But doing lap after lap on a track you've ridden a hundred times before more fun than ripping around the wilderness at 10mph or 60mph with your buddies some of whom could even be on bikes worth less than you spent on tires last year, absolutely not.
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6/5/2015 11:22am
Its terrible to hear that we've lost another brother. Everyone has to decide what risk they're willing to take. I quit a long time ago after a very nasty crash but started riding again a couple years ago only to realize I could have continued to ride without risking everything. Now I wish I had never quit in the first place.

Good luck in your decision and sorry to hear about the lost rider.
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6/5/2015 11:35am
elementmx wrote:
We all know of tragedies at the track but usually only receive word of them from our computer screen hundreds of miles away. About an hour...
We all know of tragedies at the track but usually only receive word of them from our computer screen hundreds of miles away. About an hour after I left a local practice day yesterday I got a phone call from a good friend who was still at the track describing a horrific scene. A rider apparently endo'd over a medium-large size tabletop with an extension and succumbed to his injuries right at the track. Really, really sad and scary. I don't think its my place to share name or track details. May he rest in peace.


I'm also posting because this literally hit very close to home for me and I'm immediately struggling (again) with the decision to hang up my boots. I raced locally in the A class up until a few years ago, when a crash I consider myself lucky to have gotten out of with only a broken femur scared me away for about a year. I came back and rode last year, just got a new bike, and was ready to get after it and have some fun riding and racing again this year too. I truly love this sport and wouldn't trade the riding/racing memories I have for anything. And I'm a pretty good rider when I'm feelin it! Lol

At the same time, I'm 26, have a great family, amazing fiance, I'm back in school for engineering, and feel like I have bright future ahead of me. My circumstances combined with what happened yesterday really have me leaning towards walking away from moto while I still can.

A lot of dummies post here but I know there are some intelligent folks with a lot of life experience as well. I'd appreciate any advice you have to offer.

Thanks.




I'm still in shock after hearing the terrible news last night! I ride this particular track all the time, (although I wasn't there yesterday) and I consider it a "safe" track as far as moto tracks go.

Like others have said, definitely don't ride if your having any doubts if you should be throwing a leg over the bike. To be assessing the risks of riding, and considering whether to continue to ride or not shows a lot of maturity and common sense. Give yourself some time to deal with this tragic situation.

At 46, with a great job, awesome family and everything to live for, I have those moments when I'm asking myself "Why the hell am I putting myself at risk like this". But I just can't give it up.

Ride safe everyone!!

My thoughts and prayers to the family of our fallen Moto-Brother!



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6/5/2015 11:41am
This is what I did myself when I was in your shoes. At some point, the risk is no longer worth the reward. You still have a very full life ahead of you.

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