Alessi in Great Britain.

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5/21/2015 8:07am
Guess he's back to wearing JT. I think he'll be 9th-13th OA.
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5/21/2015 8:13am
71Fish wrote:
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the...
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the season. Which is why it was mentioned on another thread, that is the reason you don't see a bunch of locals on the starting line up. So my question, how is he allowed to race?

Since everyone else is prediction; I hope he does well, but I don't see a top 10.
You can enter as wildcard for any GP as long as you've got the money. Quite a few have already this season. Don't need to be on an official GP team
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5/21/2015 8:27am
I could see good starts and then fading to about 8th through 10th in both motos. Regardless of how he does, it's pretty cool that he's taking on this challenge. Hopefully they sell some hot tub covers to cover the expenses of shipping his bike over.
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5/21/2015 8:43am
71Fish wrote:
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the...
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the season. Which is why it was mentioned on another thread, that is the reason you don't see a bunch of locals on the starting line up. So my question, how is he allowed to race?

Since everyone else is prediction; I hope he does well, but I don't see a top 10.
RY4N37 wrote:
You can enter as wildcard for any GP as long as you've got the money. Quite a few have already this season. Don't need to be...
You can enter as wildcard for any GP as long as you've got the money. Quite a few have already this season. Don't need to be on an official GP team
Thanks for the info. I do remember now the announcers talking about Argentinos racing, so there must be some way to get in.

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5/21/2015 9:32am
71Fish wrote:
Thanks for the info. I do remember now the announcers talking about Argentinos racing, so there must be some way to get in.
No problem. I believe you do get some benefits from being a registered team and signing up for the year, but I'm not sure what they are.
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its a shame that RV is missing this round through injury, I think of all the gp tracks matterly is probably the most yank friendly one...
its a shame that RV is missing this round through injury, I think of all the gp tracks matterly is probably the most yank friendly one of them all. Had RV been racing, I would have expected him to win the matterly gp- who knows how alessi will do?! he has been a podium contender/ race winner in the states before.

I think back end of the top 10 for alessi this weekend. I cant see him beating nagl, desalle, cairoli, paulin, febvre, van hoerbeek, bobbryshev etc

there are a few riders out with injury so that will put him a couple of spots higher up. I think he will be in the same sort of area as butron. Hard to predict with alessi not racing gps/ama last year!!! hopefully he will do well, and consider a move to gps full time for 2016. Be another good addition to the series
Riders out for this weekend : Villopoto, Strijbos, Searle, Nicholls, Bengtsson.
Back in action : Van Horebeek, Guarneri, N. Watson.
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5/21/2015 10:36am
its a shame that RV is missing this round through injury, I think of all the gp tracks matterly is probably the most yank friendly one...
its a shame that RV is missing this round through injury, I think of all the gp tracks matterly is probably the most yank friendly one of them all. Had RV been racing, I would have expected him to win the matterly gp- who knows how alessi will do?! he has been a podium contender/ race winner in the states before.

I think back end of the top 10 for alessi this weekend. I cant see him beating nagl, desalle, cairoli, paulin, febvre, van hoerbeek, bobbryshev etc

there are a few riders out with injury so that will put him a couple of spots higher up. I think he will be in the same sort of area as butron. Hard to predict with alessi not racing gps/ama last year!!! hopefully he will do well, and consider a move to gps full time for 2016. Be another good addition to the series
Rudicross wrote:
Riders out for this weekend : Villopoto, Strijbos, Searle, Nicholls, Bengtsson.
Back in action : Van Horebeek, Guarneri, N. Watson.
Does anyone know when Strijbos is supposed to be coming back? Always dug that guys style and speed.
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Rudicross wrote:
Riders out for this weekend : Villopoto, Strijbos, Searle, Nicholls, Bengtsson.
Back in action : Van Horebeek, Guarneri, N. Watson.
99% sure Nathan Watson won't be riding this weekend
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5/21/2015 10:44am Edited Date/Time 5/21/2015 10:53am
jeffro503 wrote:
Does anyone know when Strijbos is supposed to be coming back? Always dug that guys style and speed.
He came back for the last GP in Spain and had two good rides. Unfortunately the tendinitis in his wrist has flared up again since then, so it's anyone's guess how long he will be out for this time. Wish him a speedy recovery

Edit: Strijbos actually has a thumb injury. It isn't a reoccurrence of his tendinitis, which I guess is positive
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5/21/2015 10:50am Edited Date/Time 5/21/2015 10:52am
71Fish wrote:
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the...
What are the rules that allows MA800 to race the GPs? I thought (though never researched) it had to be a GP team racing for the season. Which is why it was mentioned on another thread, that is the reason you don't see a bunch of locals on the starting line up. So my question, how is he allowed to race?

Since everyone else is prediction; I hope he does well, but I don't see a top 10.
Mike's a name; what promoter isn't going to slot him in? It's not like the have to worry about him not being fast enough like locals unaffiliated with a team. I don't think the current rules bar it, and YS wouldn't let them get in the way if they did.

Mike's also a good dude in spite of all the other family hijinks. I do think his dad has damaged his career, but he wouldn't have had a career without him and I suppose what we see is the best it could possibly be for Mike. His situation is unique enough that I don't think any given race is a barometer of anything, least of all how US racing stacks up against GP racing. I'd be pleasantly surprised if he made into the top ten, shocked if he made top five in any moto.
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5/21/2015 3:48pm
I predict, he gets the holeshot, then finishes around 9-12.
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5/21/2015 4:59pm
ChrisB10 wrote:
Lol no way
I guess a more realistic prediction is top 5 in at least one moto and 50/50 chance of some kind of crazy drama at some point.. Woohoo
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5/21/2015 6:55pm
croom mx wrote:
I predict, he gets the holeshot, then finishes around 9-12.
Holeshot and leads for about 6 laps then takes 4th.

Stamp it.
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Anybody know what's up with the shoulder?
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5/21/2015 8:47pm
good for him

i'll be cheering for any american that goes to run that circuit. Mike seems like a good kid with a nutter for a father that hamstringed his potential while trying to do what he thought was best the entire time.
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5/24/2015 7:34am Edited Date/Time 5/24/2015 7:38am
Hut wrote:
I won't be surprised if he is top 5
KennyT wrote:
I'm right there with you

I'm going with 2 top 3 starts and a 5-6 finish
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races.

Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower laptimes.
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Hut wrote:
I won't be surprised if he is top 5
KennyT wrote:
I'm right there with you

I'm going with 2 top 3 starts and a 5-6 finish
Sideways wrote:
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races. Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower...
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races.

Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower laptimes.
That`s bullshit you come here and lecture people after the race. Keep gloating but don`t lecture people on their predictions.
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5/24/2015 9:47am
KennyT wrote:
I'm right there with you

I'm going with 2 top 3 starts and a 5-6 finish
Sideways wrote:
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races. Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower...
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races.

Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower laptimes.
kongols wrote:
That`s bullshit you come here and lecture people after the race. Keep gloating but don`t lecture people on their predictions.
Not exactly a lecture. He looked embarrassingly slow. He struggled with Lewis Gregory on a 250 2 stroke. He must be injured
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5/24/2015 10:27am
Alessi did get lapped in the first race, but not the second. Just face it, he didn't do very well. Racing the GP's is tough. For those of you who thought he would finish in the top 5 in his first race out, you were out of your mind. Silly
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Alessi was running a few seconds slower than Covington on a 250. He typically is faster than Rattray so something was up.
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Sideways wrote:
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races. Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower...
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races.

Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower laptimes.
I meant what I said, if he'd have gone top 5 I wouldn't have been surprised. I am surprised to read that he struggled today though.
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5/24/2015 10:55am
Called it...I saidhe would be lucky to be top 20.
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Hut wrote:
I won't be surprised if he is top 5
KennyT wrote:
I'm right there with you

I'm going with 2 top 3 starts and a 5-6 finish
Sideways wrote:
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races. Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower...
Did you guys really think he would finish 5-6? That is just behind RV was most races.

Alessi finished 22nd. Almost got lapped and 6-8sec slower laptimes.
I was not fishing with my prediction. I honestly felt Mike would do as well as RV in the GP's. Mike is a excellent outdoor rider and it surprised me more that he finalized around 20th than it would have if he hit top 5.

I did get my prediction fairly close for the start of the season that RV would be 3-5 and not be a title threat so I am not one of those nuts that do not give GP riders credit for being fast
5/24/2015 12:30pm
A waste of a plane ticket.
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Mikes program and team makes me think he has given up. It seems now it is maybe just a matter of making a little money before he retires.

His team runs uniforms rather than gear lines and their sponsors do not benefit from the exposure. The bikes are not up to par and they do not show any will to try to win. Something is going on but the answers are few. Mike was at one point the top motocross rider in the world. I think back in 2008,2009, and 2010 he was the favorite each year until he was injured. I am sure the crashes have taken their toll on him. If he can't run the pace now it might be a good time to retire.
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5/24/2015 1:08pm
I don't know who was riding the 800 bike today but it did not look like the real Mike Alessi.
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5/24/2015 1:11pm
Moto810 wrote:
Mikes program and team makes me think he has given up. It seems now it is maybe just a matter of making a little money before...
Mikes program and team makes me think he has given up. It seems now it is maybe just a matter of making a little money before he retires.

His team runs uniforms rather than gear lines and their sponsors do not benefit from the exposure. The bikes are not up to par and they do not show any will to try to win. Something is going on but the answers are few. Mike was at one point the top motocross rider in the world. I think back in 2008,2009, and 2010 he was the favorite each year until he was injured. I am sure the crashes have taken their toll on him. If he can't run the pace now it might be a good time to retire.
He was never the top motocross rider in the world but you bring up some good points.
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Moto810 wrote:
Mikes program and team makes me think he has given up. It seems now it is maybe just a matter of making a little money before...
Mikes program and team makes me think he has given up. It seems now it is maybe just a matter of making a little money before he retires.

His team runs uniforms rather than gear lines and their sponsors do not benefit from the exposure. The bikes are not up to par and they do not show any will to try to win. Something is going on but the answers are few. Mike was at one point the top motocross rider in the world. I think back in 2008,2009, and 2010 he was the favorite each year until he was injured. I am sure the crashes have taken their toll on him. If he can't run the pace now it might be a good time to retire.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
He was never the top motocross rider in the world but you bring up some good points.
Maybe you do not remember the 2008 and 2009 seasons? I think he won the first 4 motos? Something like that. Then he crashed and was out. He was said to be the favorite in each of those seasons. Now he did not become a champ no. But if your winning the first 4 motos of a season and your the favorite to win I think you must be one of the best if not the best at that point and time.

Now we can all say JS7 is or was the best of the time. But he was not racing so we can't give him credit since he was not there. My point really is not the say Mike is great. He was very good of course. Never lived up to his ability for one reason or another.
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5/24/2015 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 5/24/2015 1:29pm
Moto810 wrote:
Maybe you do not remember the 2008 and 2009 seasons? I think he won the first 4 motos? Something like that. Then he crashed and was...
Maybe you do not remember the 2008 and 2009 seasons? I think he won the first 4 motos? Something like that. Then he crashed and was out. He was said to be the favorite in each of those seasons. Now he did not become a champ no. But if your winning the first 4 motos of a season and your the favorite to win I think you must be one of the best if not the best at that point and time.

Now we can all say JS7 is or was the best of the time. But he was not racing so we can't give him credit since he was not there. My point really is not the say Mike is great. He was very good of course. Never lived up to his ability for one reason or another.
Alessi never won the first 4 motos. In 2009 RV destroyed everyone badly at Glen Helen and then wrecked his knee during the week before Hangtown and left the series. Alessi then won the next 4 motos before he crashed an broke his kneecap. It was really 3 moto wins, Josh Grant won a moto at Hangtown but was docked a position giving MIke the 4th moto win.

2008 he had several 2nd place finishes during Stewarts perfect 24-0 season before he wrecked at Red Bud where he was run over and finished for the year.

He was always good but IMO was never the favorite.

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