2015.5 KTM Factory Edition Feedback

Bry145 wrote:

I'm sure the bike is great, but is it worth double the cost of a different brand 450? I have seen 13, 14, and 15 450s...

I'm sure the bike is great, but is it worth double the cost of a different brand 450? I have seen 13, 14, and 15 450s in the 7K range.

KTMShane699 wrote:

Older bikes that are leftover are discounted. That's simply how it works. It's a good deal for bikes with little changes. The FE is an entirely...

Older bikes that are leftover are discounted. That's simply how it works. It's a good deal for bikes with little changes. The FE is an entirely new bike though.

And how do you come up with "double the cost" and then mention the "7K range?" By my math, the FE would have to go for $14,000 to be double. And it isn't close to that. You'd save about 32% if you found a bike for $7,000 over the cost of an FE and that assumes you paid full price for the FE. There's taxes and such, but you'll be paying that either way.

If you're going to make generalizations, at least try to make them close to accurate.

Shane

SXDoc wrote:

I have been pacing back and forth all month.......I can't wait until mine hits the west coast!

Moto3731 wrote:

Right the hate that people have for and towards the people buying the bike is unreal. Bikes are expensive as is is what 2 grand more...

Right the hate that people have for and towards the people buying the bike is unreal. Bikes are expensive as is is what 2 grand more for the one you really want. I understand the people that are trying to get the cheapest deal... More power to them. But if I personally couldn't afford one I sure the hell would be pumped for the people who can rather that bashing them for spending the money. I guess haters are just gonna hate right?

mx317 wrote:

As I have gotten older and have a little more disposable income, I buy things I want but don't really have to have when it comes...

As I have gotten older and have a little more disposable income, I buy things I want but don't really have to have when it comes to my moto habit. It's no ones business but mine.

Bry145 wrote:

I'm sure the bike is great, but is it worth double the cost of a different brand 450? I have seen 13, 14, and 15 450s...

I'm sure the bike is great, but is it worth double the cost of a different brand 450? I have seen 13, 14, and 15 450s in the 7K range.

KTMShane699 wrote:

Older bikes that are leftover are discounted. That's simply how it works. It's a good deal for bikes with little changes. The FE is an entirely...

Older bikes that are leftover are discounted. That's simply how it works. It's a good deal for bikes with little changes. The FE is an entirely new bike though.

And how do you come up with "double the cost" and then mention the "7K range?" By my math, the FE would have to go for $14,000 to be double. And it isn't close to that. You'd save about 32% if you found a bike for $7,000 over the cost of an FE and that assumes you paid full price for the FE. There's taxes and such, but you'll be paying that either way.

If you're going to make generalizations, at least try to make them close to accurate.

Shane

Bry145 wrote:

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice...

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice as much as a 7K leftover 450.

I'd take the leftover and use the remaining $$$ to go racing for a year.

Bry145 wrote:

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice...

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice as much as a 7K leftover 450.

I'd take the leftover and use the remaining $$$ to go racing for a year.

Motoman79 wrote:

I am going to feel horrible when my new pos KTM arrives I love to punish myself like when I had to wait for my 600hp...

I am going to feel horrible when my new pos KTM arrives I love to punish myself like when I had to wait for my 600hp Roush Raptor

Bry145 wrote:

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice...

I heard Carter in Vegas sold one for 15K. I imagine the deals struck at other dealers were in the 13-14K range. This is roughly twice as much as a 7K leftover 450.

I'd take the leftover and use the remaining $$$ to go racing for a year.

KTMShane699 wrote:

You're using an inflated value to make your point. Which simply nullifies the whole argument. Just because someone was willing to pay $15,000 for a bike...

You're using an inflated value to make your point. Which simply nullifies the whole argument. Just because someone was willing to pay $15,000 for a bike valued at $10,200 by the manufacturer doesn't make it a fair comparison.

I also have a Ford Raptor. Every dealer that told me there was a "market adjustment" and wanted more than MSRP I simply walked out of. I finally found one and bought my truck between invoice and MSRP. Those who paid more for their trucks are simply not good negotiators.

So yes, $14,000-15,000 is double (or more) than a $7,000 leftover. But a left over has already depreciated and you have a savings for that since it is a leftover. If the difference is "worth it" or not? That's something only the buyer can decide. Obviously someone felt it was worth paying more than MSRP for and got what he wanted.

The way this place concerns itself with the way others spend their money is simply astounding. Who cares? Most of us here don't know the financial situation of those who are posting. I'm sure we have people with little to no net worth, and people in excess of seven figures. Your own situation will shape how you value things. I prefer to think of it as I've worked my ass off since I've been able to get a job as a teenager to be able to have the security I currently enjoy. What good is working my ass off if I can't enjoy some of the fruits of my labor on things that make me happy? I'm not the only one with that viewpoint.

Shane

Lawrence929 wrote:

My dad just ordered WP Cone Forks Refurbished and [u]sent the shock to WP for a revalve[/u] and it was only $2,300 for both. SCORE. Yeah...

My dad just ordered WP Cone Forks Refurbished and sent the shock to WP for a revalve and it was only $2,300 for both. SCORE.

Yeah I watched him box it up lol.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I saw a really clean Raptor at a used car lot around here. Stopped to see what they wanted for it and he was asking over...

I saw a really clean Raptor at a used car lot around here. Stopped to see what they wanted for it and he was asking over MSRP for it. I had to ask him twice because I was sure I heard him wrong. The funny part is this the used car lot adjacent to their Ford Dealership and I had been quoted less than that for a new one at the dealership. Needless to say, I walked away.

hvaughn88 wrote:

I saw a really clean Raptor at a used car lot around here. Stopped to see what they wanted for it and he was asking over...

I saw a really clean Raptor at a used car lot around here. Stopped to see what they wanted for it and he was asking over MSRP for it. I had to ask him twice because I was sure I heard him wrong. The funny part is this the used car lot adjacent to their Ford Dealership and I had been quoted less than that for a new one at the dealership. Needless to say, I walked away.

KTMShane699 wrote:

It's funny how they hold their value and sell. When I decided to look for one, I looked used. I found a 2012 with 42,000 miles...

It's funny how they hold their value and sell. When I decided to look for one, I looked used. I found a 2012 with 42,000 miles for it. They wanted $48,000. I ended up ordering my 2014 the way I wanted it for $6,000 more. I don't get it. I do love my truck though. It's been great to me.

Shane

Motoman79 wrote:

I am going to feel horrible when my new pos KTM arrives I love to punish myself like when I had to wait for my 600hp...

I am going to feel horrible when my new pos KTM arrives I love to punish myself like when I had to wait for my 600hp Roush Raptor

KTMShane699 wrote:

Nice truck motoman! Mine isn't a Roush Raptor, but I love it just the same. I spent the day detailing it in the garage, so forgive...

Nice truck motoman! Mine isn't a Roush Raptor, but I love it just the same. I spent the day detailing it in the garage, so forgive the messy garage pic but it's raining and I didn't want to take it out after cleaning it!

Shane

Dirtysmile56 wrote:

$2,300 to make a $9,000 motorcycle work properly? $11,300? Man that sounds like a lot of money. Especially since you can buy a Japanese bike and...

$2,300 to make a $9,000 motorcycle work properly? $11,300? Man that sounds like a lot of money. Especially since you can buy a Japanese bike and ride it out of the box . Power motor sports in Oregon is letting KX450's fly for mid $6,000's OTD I bought my KX250f for $5,700 otd Yamaha's $mid sevens . There is no way that thing is $4,000 better than the other 450's. I'm a big KTM fan and absolutely love what they are producing and have the money to do it but I just don't see any value whatsoever in that scenario, especially given the alternative.....I could possibly be swayed if they would put a freaking fork that just worked out of the box. How can they not figure this out?

Motoman79 wrote:

awesome looking truck! Do you have a tuner and cold air intake on it? I put a 5 Star kit on my stock Raptors and it...

awesome looking truck! Do you have a tuner and cold air intake on it? I put a 5 Star kit on my stock Raptors and it really woke them up! Like the rims what are they? This is my 3rd Raptor and for everyone who likes sticker shock 75K for fully loaded Roush I am doing my part to stimulate the economy!

KTMShane699 wrote:

Thanks! The wheels are BMF SOTA wheels. They're 20's with 35" Nitto Mud Grapplers. I also did the mid perch mod to level the truck. And...

Thanks! The wheels are BMF SOTA wheels. They're 20's with 35" Nitto Mud Grapplers. I also did the mid perch mod to level the truck.

And as for selling a "gently used vet bike," you can find a buyer when they know what they're getting. You'll lose money, but that's true of any purchase of a vehicle. It's a cost of doing business.

Shane

philG wrote:

i have a trader who i sell to when i want to move stuff, i ring , he brings money, i dont have tyre kickers and...

i have a trader who i sell to when i want to move stuff, i ring , he brings money, i dont have tyre kickers and scumbags round at my place , i know i wont ever show a profit, but like you say , thats the cost of doing business.

What i will say , is that back in the day , when we had a new bike every year without fail, i pretty much had the bike sold before i bought it , guys who wanted a good used bike knew mine were always spot on, and at the end of the season i would move it on for a good price because the guy knew what he was getting.