BMX for Moto

BobPA
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2/5/2015 10:10am
MiSledder wrote:
Racing is dead because kids are pussies these days and doing a trick here and there while BSing is easier
Actually, racing is a pain in the ass. For someone like me you have to travel over an hour, pay to race, pay to be a member, sit and wait for 30 second heats, then sit some more. I refuse to pay to ride my BMX bike, anywhere. It's a little kids bike for crying out loud. As mentioned before if I want to compete I'll race my KTM. Pedal bikes are for relaxing/fun.
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2/5/2015 10:11am
Speaking of BMX, this is a link to my backyard project I am hoping to finish this spring... although I don't think it will ever stop...
Speaking of BMX, this is a link to my backyard project I am hoping to finish this spring... although I don't think it will ever stop snowing!

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=623588
hvaughn88 wrote:
OK, you're my new hero!!
Thanks, but I still have to finish it......... Having to work for a living is a real pain in the ass when you are trying to have fun!
JeepnMike
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2/5/2015 10:44am
500guy wrote:
I'm not hating on Freestyle

I'm just saying it's not Motocross and I don't know why it got labeled the same.
JeepnMike wrote:
I guarantee you GuyB would have understood your point, and I got it too. Anybody who raced BMX in the '70s or '80s would get it...
I guarantee you GuyB would have understood your point, and I got it too. Anybody who raced BMX in the '70s or '80s would get it.

No need to sugar coat it for some of the younger people here. As a BMX RACER, freestyle was considered really freaking lame at that time. I know things are different now, but I think you were speaking of how it used to be and you were absolutely right. Nothing was more annoying than having freestyle bundled with actual racing when freestyle was in it's infancy. One is very different than the other.



brocster wrote:
funny that I used my "race" bike for both and the race scene was so small that "racing" was actually lame compared to freestyle. We had...
funny that I used my "race" bike for both and the race scene was so small that "racing" was actually lame compared to freestyle. We had a dirt quarter pipe cut in the side of the start hill and rode that more than we actually rode the track...

and I actually raced BMX before there were start hills for us that live in the flats

I still love BMX in every regard and wish I had some hills to ride on as I would love to try out one of those 26" dirt jumpers.
I am sure the trends differed a bit by region.

I am with you though, BMX is still the most wholesome family sport on the planet. I went back to the tracks last year and I swear time has stood still for 30 years. Crazy that a lot of the same people that were at the tracks in the '70s are still there. Still the same respectful crowd, the same kids in great shape making good decisions, all good stuff.

Now if only my kids were interested Sad
jeffro503
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2/5/2015 10:54am
This is exactly what I rode in 1980. I rode the piss out of this bike back when it was safe to bike 20 miles, after...
This is exactly what I rode in 1980. I rode the piss out of this bike back when it was safe to bike 20 miles, after dark, and not get kidnapped.



Oh man!!....I had that exact frame back in like 82-86....Mongoose supergoose! Mine was built a lot like that too except I was using the yellow Tuff's. Gawd I miss those days!

The Shop

dl117
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2/5/2015 11:03am
Speaking of BMX, this is a link to my backyard project I am hoping to finish this spring... although I don't think it will ever stop...
Speaking of BMX, this is a link to my backyard project I am hoping to finish this spring... although I don't think it will ever stop snowing!

http://bmxmuseum.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=623588
I read through that whole thing on bmxmuseum a while ago....very cool
MiSledder
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2/5/2015 11:49am
Got a bud who collect vintage bmx bikes, heres a few frames I refinished for him, Ive done quite a few frames but can only find 3 pics


Auburn, This is 2nd Auburn frame



Sting



Elf



My 1979/80 PK Ripper frame Im restoring




My retro 2015 PK Ripper

Old Mate
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2/5/2015 12:35pm
I had four kids in 2 and a bit years, I have never bought my kids a new mx bike and they have 20 aussie titles and AMA podiums. BMX was a huge part of there development. From wheel standing, balance, angle changes,mauling, pumping and hours and hours of them shovelling jumps. I think we don't have real good training facilities or tracks in Aus, so doing sx in AMA would be near impossible without BMX or a lot of money.
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2/5/2015 12:57pm
Sully wrote:
You guys really have me thinking about getting a bike now. Besides the obvious 2", what is the biggest difference between a 24" & 26"?
It's like the difference between a skateboard wheel and a monster truck wheel. The larger wheel can ride over bumps and obstacles better, the smaller wheel turns quicker and is a tad lighter. That being said, the larger wheels require less effort to keep your momentum (further distance travelled with one full pedal revolution when compared to 24"). On the other hand, a 24" wheel has shorter spokes and is quite a bit tougher than a comparable 26" wheel. You can get super beefy 26" wheels, so I wouldn't take that point into too much consideration. Keep in mind your options for tires on a 24" wheel are more limited than they are on a 26". I would recommend a 26" just for fitment issues (longer top tubes make it easier to spread out and make your self comfortable), but a 24" wheel would be a bit more fun in the skateparks. If you already have a 29er, you'll think the 26" wheels feel like a big BMX bike, which is why a lot of guys will have a 29er trail bike and a 26er play-bike. It's a lot of fun either way, pick a bike and ride it.
hvaughn88
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2/5/2015 2:35pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2015 2:35pm
need some road fools clips put up on here. I could watch van homan, chase hawk and aaron ross ride all day.
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2/5/2015 6:14pm
So someone kinda fill me in here. Ive been thinking about a bigger bike for dirt jumping. I cant decide on a 24 or a 26 im actually leaning more towards the 26 and building something almost identical to this bike its a Deity Streetsweeper


If im more used to a 20 inch (although as i get older im feeling more cramped) Is the 26 going to feel way too much like a mt bike and the 24 feel more BMX or is it one of those things where once you get on that 26 and have the room you basically just fall in love.
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2/5/2015 8:14pm


- I picked up this redline MX 24 on CL for $125
Added the laid back seat post and taller RL bars off amazon for like $25
Made it fit a lot better

Works for now hitting the trails or BMX track w/ my daughter

Local track (7 mi away) has more vets then kids there and races on most Sundays


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2/5/2015 8:45pm
This thread is bad news. I've been looking at 26" DJs for the last two days. Don't know if I'll be able to fight the urge much longer. Everything in my area on pinkbike is way overpriced or clapped out to the max. Whoever said they found a Specialized p series for $250, please help me. Laughing
edub
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2/5/2015 11:26pm
This is my Intense 24" Cruiser

Using it as my "everyday bike" in the city. Sometimes I go to a pumptrack and skatepark with my kids
Really love that bike. It is like a fixie pure and simple



dl117
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2/6/2015 5:57am
That vid is so sick
forensic
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2/6/2015 6:11am
jmb227 wrote:
So someone kinda fill me in here. Ive been thinking about a bigger bike for dirt jumping. I cant decide on a 24 or a 26...
So someone kinda fill me in here. Ive been thinking about a bigger bike for dirt jumping. I cant decide on a 24 or a 26 im actually leaning more towards the 26 and building something almost identical to this bike its a Deity Streetsweeper


If im more used to a 20 inch (although as i get older im feeling more cramped) Is the 26 going to feel way too much like a mt bike and the 24 feel more BMX or is it one of those things where once you get on that 26 and have the room you basically just fall in love.
thats a cool bike. Diety makes two 26" frames, the streetsweeper and the cryptkeeper. the streetsweeper is more dialed for park riding (quarter pipes, bowls, tricks, etc) like shown in that pic, its got a really short rear end and steep head tube angle so its got a short wheelbase. so its closer to bmx bike geometry on big wheels. The cryptkeeper is a little longer in the rear, more raked out up front, and has a lower bottom bracket so it will be more stable and easier to ride over higher speed hits. you will notice that with a lot of companies, they will offer two options for their DJs. Transition Bikes for example, they have the BLT and the PBJ i think. I also think the Morpheus Vimanas are tight.
dl117
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2/6/2015 7:02am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2015 7:03am
here is a redo on a frame i jsut did before we went to the national in Tulsa,
was this
now a few angles of the chamelion paint

without flash

with flash


also did the hoops, hubs, stem, and chainring....turned out good, now on to the daughters new frame and custom paint, my kids dont like stock

lappedrider
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2/6/2015 8:23am
^^ Nice work!
dl117
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^^ Nice work!
thanks, we paint a couple a month for people.....just have fun doingit, and changing shit up alitle.
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2/6/2015 9:18am Edited Date/Time 2/6/2015 9:26am
I have a Haro SR 24 race cruiser, I love the bike and its so fun to blast around the hood on. My son and I are going to race local bmx stuff this summer as well as DH mtn biking.

My 4 year olds Micro mini

My 26' free ride bike

I'm building ths 16' spawn Banshee for Mason right now, I just mounted the Spinner air forks, red line micro mini bars, odi lock on grips and bike man v brake mounts on the forks. I'm waiting for a few more parts to finish it.
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2/6/2015 12:18pm
Super Grover 2.0!
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2/6/2015 12:42pm
three9zero wrote:
I have a Haro SR 24 race cruiser, I love the bike and its so fun to blast around the hood on. My son and I...
I have a Haro SR 24 race cruiser, I love the bike and its so fun to blast around the hood on. My son and I are going to race local bmx stuff this summer as well as DH mtn biking.

My 4 year olds Micro mini

My 26' free ride bike

I'm building ths 16' spawn Banshee for Mason right now, I just mounted the Spinner air forks, red line micro mini bars, odi lock on grips and bike man v brake mounts on the forks. I'm waiting for a few more parts to finish it.
Here's my 4 year olds Specialized. I need to find some suspension forks. Are those 20"?


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2/6/2015 12:47pm
Randy I see that bike with those forks and I envision the kid from Mad Max riding it , ha ha those are some serious looking forks.
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2/6/2015 12:57pm
500guy wrote:
Randy I see that bike with those forks and I envision the kid from Mad Max riding it , ha ha those are some serious looking...
Randy I see that bike with those forks and I envision the kid from Mad Max riding it , ha ha those are some serious looking forks.
It was the only 20" forks I had that look like suspension. The first ones I had on it were 26" Marzocchis with the internals removed but they were too long.
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2/6/2015 2:55pm
Transition Bikes is making a 24" full-suspension AM kids bike this year lol hopefully they still make it when I've had enough time to find a wife and have a kid haha

http://transitionbikes.com/2015/Bikes_Ripcord.cfm?Token={ts_2015-02-06_16:53:31}-aaba0bcfaf3fdc91-C115C16F-CE24-9109-C4871D6A29FA7B88
2/7/2015 7:14am
I've also been inspired to join due to this thread because it's been bumped to the second page and the topic has gone away from the original headline - and people are talking about 26s and 29s

If you ride an 80cc or a 150f or smaller ? train on 20inch BMX
If you ride a 125/250f or bigger? train on 24inch bmx

26s / 29s or any mtb/dirt jumper / or anything with suspension ? is pretty much useless


If those BMX bikes are too small for you? and you feel uncomfortable on them? and you start to wonder about getting suspension on 24 ? or anything like that ?


you're too old for motocross


as MC proved


True BMX (bicycle motocross) skills translate to motocross skills - always standing - always in attack mode


When you train enough BMX you never want to sit down


Ever


Later the skill will translate into you not wanting to sit down! but you are forced to sit down once you hit the corner! but because of your dislike for sitting down you're going to be looking for any excuse to stand up as soon as you exit the corner! and this lazy ass riding while sitting down? is not possible anymore due to comfort




2/7/2015 8:38am
I tjink some of you need to learn bmx ergos. If you like a 20 but feel to cramped, get a longer frame, stem or taller bars. Same goes with a 24. For a 20, they make uo to a triple xl, guys over 6 feet ride them. Anything above a 24 IMO is worthless for learning mx form.

I don't care how old you are, once you figure out a 20, you'll sell everything else.

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