JT$ is right, Denver SX

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2/4/2015 2:23pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2015 2:26pm
GuyB wrote:
I guess you guys don't remember how it worked at the original Superbowl of Motocross events. (Perimeter, no dirt on the field.)
lostboy819 wrote:
Sure we do but the LA Coliseum is way bigger than old mile high and 1996 is along way from the 1970s and early 80s. Denver...
Sure we do but the LA Coliseum is way bigger than old mile high and 1996 is along way from the 1970s and early 80s. Denver was a last minute substitute for what would have been the first Salt lake SX and it was the last SX of the year and McGrath had his win streak broken but the title tied up so most people didnt even know about it. Turn out was so low that the AMA was going through the pits trying to get anyone they could so they could have qualifiers for the 125 class and then a freak wind storm blew through and took down the finish line banners.....................but the after race BBQ was great.
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[b]lostboy819 wrote: Sure we do but the LA Coliseum is way bigger than old mile high and 1996 is along way from the 1970s and early...
lostboy819 wrote: Sure we do but the LA Coliseum is way bigger than old mile high and 1996 is along way from the 1970s and early 80s.

Slight correction(unless I misunderstood you): I attended LA in 1997 when Tortelli passed Henry on lap 19 for the win.
I was just stating that the old Mile high stadium is no match in size with the LA coliseum in any way shape or form. The Denver SX was more like a arena cross race that also ran one around the outside of the football field. When they built the track they made the doubles and triples closer together because they thought the elevation would make it hard to clear normal ones but they had a long run at them that everyone was over jumping them.Just a real bad SX.

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peelout wrote:
i'm still bummed the SLC Supercross is no longer
I really liked all the SLC SXs , short trip form Denver so we would drive to that one.
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Still have a couple of these, I had about ten and will put one on ebay every now and then as they are few and far between.Wink


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2/4/2015 2:34pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2015 2:35pm
I could only see a supercross in Chicago or Milwaukee if they dropped Indy and Minnesota off the schedule (assuming they'll be back in Minneapolis). Indy is a nice facility. Lambeau just doesn't make sense, between the weather and the lack of population in the UP. People from Chicago aren't going to drive to Green Bay for a supercross when Indy is on the schedule and the weather will be better.

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I knew I liked this JT$ character.
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2/4/2015 3:30pm
Yeah it's a cute idea but with no covered stadium and the possibility of snow the all the way through the season, I don't think it's plausible. Maybe one of the last rounds before Vegas, but it's still a potentially very costly gamble.
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it needs to come back to the nw in seattle
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2/4/2015 4:16pm
I say Pittsburgh. Like JT said it's a an off-road hotbed. They would easily sell out the baseball field.
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2/4/2015 5:56pm
mx836 wrote:
I say Lambeau field for convenience purposes.
This would be awesome! However, it would be a cold day in hell before there is a Supercross at Lambeau Field.
2/4/2015 6:05pm
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those stadium's regular fans have seen anything resembling a competitive event. The only downside with Boulder would be the inevitable dreadlock being caught in the spokes.
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lostboy819 wrote:
??? What the heck have you been smoking ? Motocross numbers are WAY down from 1996 and have been declining for years. Have you see the...
??? What the heck have you been smoking ? Motocross numbers are WAY down from 1996 and have been declining for years. Have you see the low turnout at most all SRAC and RMXA races ? The only races that draw big numbers are the LL qualifers and a very select few other state races.
You can't be serious, you're comparing local races to people who would attend a supercross at mile high or coors field? Besides, I thought four strokes killed the local racing scene....
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Dirt bikes are more popular now than in '96?
I would argue day & night dirt bikes are much more main stream to the general public then in 96.
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lostboy819 wrote:
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of...
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of the new mile hi stadium.
Cygnus wrote:
Worst SX track in history. Ran around the apron of the stadium and over where the old sliding stands moved back for base ball. God forbid...
Worst SX track in history. Ran around the apron of the stadium and over where the old sliding stands moved back for base ball. God forbid they covered the grass.
GuyB wrote:
I guess you guys don't remember how it worked at the original Superbowl of Motocross events. (Perimeter, no dirt on the field.)
that was epic!!!!
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2/4/2015 9:06pm
I have a solution that also serves the low lap time issue. Kansas City! Arrowhead and Kauffman are right next to each other. We link them together and fill both stadiums with fans it would be phenomenal. It'll never happen but how com would it be?
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2/4/2015 9:07pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2015 9:08pm
lostboy819 wrote:
??? What the heck have you been smoking ? Motocross numbers are WAY down from 1996 and have been declining for years. Have you see the...
??? What the heck have you been smoking ? Motocross numbers are WAY down from 1996 and have been declining for years. Have you see the low turnout at most all SRAC and RMXA races ? The only races that draw big numbers are the LL qualifers and a very select few other state races.
Xracerdone wrote:
You can't be serious, you're comparing local races to people who would attend a supercross at mile high or coors field? Besides, I thought four strokes...
You can't be serious, you're comparing local races to people who would attend a supercross at mile high or coors field? Besides, I thought four strokes killed the local racing scene....
You claim that dirt bikes are more popular now than in 1996 . Local races and local bike sales are how you would gauge popularity of dirt bikes, always has been always will be. How did you come up with your opinion that dirt bikes are more popular now than 10 or 20 years ago because sales numbers do not lie.
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2/4/2015 9:11pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2015 9:14pm
hvaughn88 wrote:
Dirt bikes are more popular now than in '96?
Xracerdone wrote:
I would argue day & night dirt bikes are much more main stream to the general public then in 96.
LOL, then you must have something to back up your argument, lets hear your theory.Smile I can guarantee off road bike sales in the 70s puts them all to shame.
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2/4/2015 9:42pm
TripleFive wrote:
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those...
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those stadium's regular fans have seen anything resembling a competitive event. The only downside with Boulder would be the inevitable dreadlock being caught in the spokes.
All the granolas in Boulder would never let an event like SX take place in town.

Coors Field just wouldn't be doable since no MLB groundskeeper would let an event happen any later than mid February. Mid February would be sketchy with weather.
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2/4/2015 9:46pm
Wasn't there a round in Joliet, IL quite a few years ago? If hell freezes over there would be a late-season round at Wrigley! Soldier Field would be an epic supercross venue as well. We can only dream...
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TripleFive wrote:
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those...
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those stadium's regular fans have seen anything resembling a competitive event. The only downside with Boulder would be the inevitable dreadlock being caught in the spokes.
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All the granolas in Boulder would never let an event like SX take place in town. Coors Field just wouldn't be doable since no MLB groundskeeper...
All the granolas in Boulder would never let an event like SX take place in town.

Coors Field just wouldn't be doable since no MLB groundskeeper would let an event happen any later than mid February. Mid February would be sketchy with weather.

They even publicly said when they build Coors field that there would be no motorsports in the stadium ever the new mile high stadium said pretty much the same thing. I agree that Boulder is was too green to let it happen there.
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crusher773 wrote:
I have a solution that also serves the low lap time issue. Kansas City! Arrowhead and Kauffman are right next to each other. We link them...
I have a solution that also serves the low lap time issue. Kansas City! Arrowhead and Kauffman are right next to each other. We link them together and fill both stadiums with fans it would be phenomenal. It'll never happen but how com would it be?
They had one in arrow head stadium back in the late 70s or early 80s , dont remember if they ran there more than a year or two but it was a good event
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ChrisB10 wrote:
I say Pittsburgh. Like JT said it's a an off-road hotbed. They would easily sell out the baseball field.
i agree with pittsburgh. PNC park is a beautiful stadium and by the time later east rounds come around snow isnt a problem. Heinz field isnt as nice but it could also work. Any sort of motor sports are very popular here, and the entire surrounding areas. They would for sure get a large crowd. I never understood the logic of multiple rounds in the same place other than it being easy for them to do, but with the anaheim turn outs this year i dont think its really feasible anymore.
2/4/2015 10:28pm
TripleFive wrote:
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those...
A SX at Folsom Field in Boulder, or Coors Field where the Rockies play sounds intriguing. It has been a long time since any of those stadium's regular fans have seen anything resembling a competitive event. The only downside with Boulder would be the inevitable dreadlock being caught in the spokes.
2thefront wrote:
All the granolas in Boulder would never let an event like SX take place in town. Coors Field just wouldn't be doable since no MLB groundskeeper...
All the granolas in Boulder would never let an event like SX take place in town.

Coors Field just wouldn't be doable since no MLB groundskeeper would let an event happen any later than mid February. Mid February would be sketchy with weather.
Yeah, I agree - I don't see it happening. I just can't miss an opportunity to take a shot at CU though. Also, I can't stand the Rockies's owner so I had to throw in a dig on them too.
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lostboy819 wrote:
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of...
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of the new mile hi stadium.
Wasn't wind a factor?
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hvaughn88 wrote:
Dirt bikes are more popular now than in '96?
Xracerdone wrote:
I would argue day & night dirt bikes are much more main stream to the general public then in 96.
lostboy819 wrote:
LOL, then you must have something to back up your argument, lets hear your theory.:) I can guarantee off road bike sales in the 70s puts...
LOL, then you must have something to back up your argument, lets hear your theory.Smile I can guarantee off road bike sales in the 70s puts them all to shame.
He didn't say bike sales were higher.

Xracerdone-I agree with you and we owe a lot to FMX Jeremy McGrath, RC and Travis Pastrana for the sport becoming more mainstream.
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2/4/2015 11:43pm Edited Date/Time 2/4/2015 11:44pm
lostboy819 wrote:
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of...
We had one in Denver in 1996 and it was a disaster. There is no way they will ever let motocross bikes on the floor of the new mile hi stadium.
The Rock wrote:
Wasn't wind a factor?
Wind storm blew through and tore down all the banners and made it a big dusty mess,bad dirt,bad track,low turnout with both riders and fans, last minute substitute for the cancelled Salt lake city race so most people didn't even know about it, just a bad race from the get go.
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jmx411 wrote:
I know if they started moving some of the California races around people will complain about all the travel for volunteers, but Denver, Milwaukee, Nashville, Charlotte...
I know if they started moving some of the California races around people will complain about all the travel for volunteers, but Denver, Milwaukee, Nashville, Charlotte, Pittsburgh would all work. I do like that Feld is having a California round late in the year. That is another reason attendance is struggling in Cali is because they are all on back to back weekends.


Charlotte want happen even though it has awesome facilities with ATL 4 hours away but what about Redbull 4wide straight rythm!
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2/5/2015 4:56am Edited Date/Time 2/5/2015 4:57am
The Rock wrote:
He didn't say bike sales were higher. Xracerdone-I agree with you and we owe a lot to FMX Jeremy McGrath, RC and Travis Pastrana for the...
He didn't say bike sales were higher.

Xracerdone-I agree with you and we owe a lot to FMX Jeremy McGrath, RC and Travis Pastrana for the sport becoming more mainstream.
Yeah I just don't get half the people on this site, they all twist what is said & think so highly of the smell of their own farts. Supercross is more popular then ever & bike sales & local races don't have shit to do with it. Ticket sales do. 2012 saw record ticket sales. Because local racing scene is down somehow Supercross tickets wouldn't sell in a city this large with 2 other large & growing cities right next to it? People owning dirt bikes, buying dirt bikes, racing locally have shit to do with how mainstream it has gotten or how household the word "motocross" has become.
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ChrisB10 wrote:
I say Pittsburgh. Like JT said it's a an off-road hotbed. They would easily sell out the baseball field.
i agree with pittsburgh. PNC park is a beautiful stadium and by the time later east rounds come around snow isnt a problem. Heinz field isnt...
i agree with pittsburgh. PNC park is a beautiful stadium and by the time later east rounds come around snow isnt a problem. Heinz field isnt as nice but it could also work. Any sort of motor sports are very popular here, and the entire surrounding areas. They would for sure get a large crowd. I never understood the logic of multiple rounds in the same place other than it being easy for them to do, but with the anaheim turn outs this year i dont think its really feasible anymore.
I have been to PNC Park a couple times and love the city of Pittsburgh. I think PNC is one of the nicest stadiums in America, the problem is that Supercross will never work at PNC. Once baseball starts in April they are not going to cover the field up for a week and then have to redo the entire field, not to mention the Pirates would have to work their schedule around that. It would have to be at Heinz field
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2/5/2015 5:29am
Anyone remember the Joliet IL. SX ? Kinda like a county fair race.
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I thought the Denver track and the announcing was awesome, I hate todays cookie cutter tracks.

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