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This way of doing for the circuit races has already demonstrate that is a shallow artifice. The outcome will be less real passing.
Supercross isn't a circus (and joker lane will shorten still the normal lap times...).
Unfortunately, Monster decides.
Personaly, I dream of : 12 best lap times to the main (2 sessions of qualif, little more longer) - LCQ race for first 20 riders who aren't qualified (maybe little more if they can start from a second line behind), in 10 laps, first 8 go to the main (only 20 riders at the starting gate for narrow the lappers (maybe even less than 20?)) - 2 mains races of 19min+2laps (points like mx). Something like that.
And above all, track with good dirt (coarse silt and maybe very fine sand) and even more : the elaboration of the track, his maintenance and his improvement, "does with method the more brainy". (very often I see a little thing to do for create a line of passing) (with a motocross track, this year Milville show a beginning way...)
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Motor sports globally has struggled over recent years. If SX has financial viability concerns, more radical changes may be required. Two strokes and longer mains will have almost no impact in securing new fans. What's required is more of an image makeover, something that changes SX from being the half-brother of monster trucks into a more (dare I say) sophisticated product.
2 heats + LCQ for the 250 and 450's
2 12 lap motos for the mains for 250's
2 15 lap motos for the mains for 450's
Maybe reset points for the last 6-7 rounds. Maybe award top gate picks at the remainder of the rounds for how you finish
the first 10 or so. But for sure a two moto format would be awesome!
Let's keep it that way.
Joker Lanes are for 1 Off Events, PERIOD.
Joker Lanes aren't for a Series.
Joker Lanes are like having a Heavyweight Fighter jumping Rope in a Prize Fight.
Again, SX is serious business.
Like the Outdoors, there's a tough Championship Title on the line.
17 races is incredibly tough especially given the schedule at hand.
No room for error let alone catching a cold!!
Making it any easier takes away from that.
As in other sports, the cream rises to the top.
It always does.
Guys that don't have it always push for change.
I've said it for yrs, work with the top 5 from either division.
Feld, AMA and FIM needs to get back to working and listening to those top 5 riders on track design, etc.
Who else knows better on track design then Top guys who constantly build their own tracks.
Things such as layouts and obstacles that have worked well in the past need to be on a short list.
When those things are clear, use them, reincorporate them as part of the formula.
#Bring On 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqp4W6v-kdI
You give points for the heat race, so riders can sandbag but they will give up the points they get in the heat race. You have to balance how many you give for a heat win (or podium, etc.) versus how much it will hurt their start.
Counter Argument for Multiple Shorter Races
For those who want to two or three motos with shorter laps, you eliminate any future amazing rides like Stew's 2014 Toronto, RJ's 1987 LA SX, Reed's 2014 pass on Stew for win. Those are just a few examples.
You start to limit the athlete is Supercross. One of the biggest reasons this is the toughest sport in the world, is that you need the strength quickness of a sprinter and the endurance of a cyclist. Baseball, American Football, basketball and not in the same league as moto. Football and MMA rival it.
Joker Lane
A gimmick that's great for MEC.
Points
Not in favor. Who won the most heat race wins in 2014? Villopoto The points at the end of the season would be greater
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Mitch Payton spoke of slowing the tracks down with more challenging obstacles.
Berlutti was dead set against anything less than 20 laps..
Pit Row
1. Every SX main event will be 20min plus 2 laps. (easy for TV to schedule for with it being timed)
2. Points for holeshots (and a bonus point system for series holeshot leader given at end of series)
3. Points for most laps lead during a main (bonus at end of year for most laps lead)
4. Fastest qualifier points
5. Bonus at end of year for most main event wins
The joker lane - Feld isn't going to bring in extra dirt in each city just to be used for one lap. And then there is the floor space. I don't think some of the venues have the room for it.
The format - I don't see them changing the format to make the races longer for fear of losing the TV coverage.
Just my two cents.
2 classes: Open Pro and Limited Kids
Open Bikes: I don't care what you ride, 4St , diesel, electric, 2St, hybrid, propane. No production rules. This is the premier class in the world and it shouldn't be handicapped. If you don't have enough $ stay home. 16yrs. old min. No cherry picking career 250 riders and denying spectators the matchup of the best lap time riders. If you aren't ready to ride with the big boys then you will get beat.
Limited bikes: They should be obviously smaller than the big boys so anyone can tell they are a feeder class. Smaller wheels and max 15 yrs. old. Any engine type max horsepower with a dyno in the pre race inspection and sealed tagged components.
Track: Add obstacles that will cause harmless spills. Like Endurocross maybe 2 obstacles per track.Too predictable now. Makes me sleepy. Less ruts, smooth after races. Less separation between lap times. Less hurt riders. Fill in more jumps.
Format: Pros- tournament style with 8 elimination motos, Top guys go to 4 quarterfinals (no direct advancing to main) Then 2 Semi's and the Main Event. Pay the riders in the main real $. I don't care about rest in between motos. That's a lot of motos, so make them shorter with less crap in between and stupid announcers. If you fall and don't qualify you go home. Gate picks by lottery.
Kids - These are not touring pros, the track needs to not kill them. 3 rounds to the main, short motos.
a system that could theoretically let this happen..
Guy A: 14 wins + a 5th (fell with lead) + mechanical DNS + an 8th (taken out on start) = 379pts.
Guy B: 15 2nds + 2 wins = 380pts. & trophy
..can be improved upon.
By doing it this way you don’t have to mess with qualifying points or inverted starts. It’s fair, it’s not a gimmick, and it will probably make the starts more exciting. I don't know, just a thought...
I don't like lappers interfering with the race results any more than anyone else but I just don't agree with flagging them out before the end of the race. The only time I'm in favor of this is if they're rolling the track and clearly not trying. But I don't think that happens very often.
As for making the main events longer/more laps, I like the idea. But the 8,000 lb gorilla in the room is how much dirt they seemingly don't want to bring in. The tracks deteriorate BAD and by the end of the 450 moto, there are some serious kickers and a lot of times plywood is showing. Imagine that with more laps and the same amount of dirt. I wouldn't be in favor of extending the races unless they're willing to bring in more dirt. And it seems like they're just reluctant to do that. And if they do bring in more dirt, I imagine the ticket prices will only go up to pay for it. All of that to say, I just don't think longer races will ever happen.
The TV time is a bit of a cop out excuse. They have time to show JS7 getting cinna-twists from Taco Bell but not enough time to lengthen the race a couple of laps? That irks me a bit but I'm not making the decisions.
And please, no Joker lanes!
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