Transgender DQ'd at LL Qualifier

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6/23/2014 8:04pm
Suns_PSD wrote:
I feel sorry for those people in the situation where they are confused about their sexuality. It would really suck to feel exactly like I do...
I feel sorry for those people in the situation where they are confused about their sexuality. It would really suck to feel exactly like I do right now (like I want to bone every monster girl) but to peer in the mirror and see a woman staring back at me. I can not imagine the hurt and confusion.

That said, if someone born as a man has their penis removed, well then they are pretty much just a chick with an adam's apple at that point and imo should be allowed to race w/ the girls. If they don't lop it off, I have to assume that there is a part of them that has doubts and so will we. And I think the same basic standard should be used to determine if they can use the male or female restroom.

If a women wants to race with the men, I see no issue w/ that given the significant physical disadvantage they will be at so we don't need a standard for that situation.

Hopefully we won't get to a point where local Intermediate MXers get a boob job and start competing for female factory contracts in the Pro ranks.

I wish Danielle the best, but you know, life isn't fair. That's just life. I too wasn't born born w/ the the physical or mental attributes that would allow me to become a top dog MXer, but that that's just life.
moto38 wrote:
seriously dude... seriously? He still has all the physical traits as a dude. More muscle mass, endurance, coordination. But yet because he has his wang sliced...
seriously dude... seriously? He still has all the physical traits as a dude. More muscle mass, endurance, coordination. But yet because he has his wang sliced off somehow he is now a woman? Please. There are more differences between men and women than genitals and you would have to be an idiot or a retarded liberal not to know that.

Maybe Ill just say Im a chick on the inside and go clean up at the local womens 14+ races. A trophy is a trophy, right?
If you are willing to chop off your weenie and stretch your balls around your ears, I'm okay with allowing you to go grab a few $2 plastic trophies for your mom's mantle. Seriously where is the harm? It's all just for fun anyways. We aren't talking million $ contracts here.
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6/23/2014 8:06pm
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Are the mods going to remove this thread? I hope the person being discussed hasn´t read this medieval redneck filth Sick
You do understand that you are calling MX Sports a "medieval redneck filth" organization ... MX Sports disqualified the guy, not anyone on this board. Nice. LOL.
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6/23/2014 8:15pm Edited Date/Time 6/23/2014 8:20pm
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Thanks for schooling me Ace. And all these years I would of sworn that Indiana was the redneck vortex of the world. I learn something new...
Thanks for schooling me Ace.

And all these years I would of sworn that Indiana was the redneck vortex of the world. I learn something new every day.

Glad to see your fighting the good fight down in the holler!

And I am so sorry your daddy made you play dress up when you were a young man. It looks as if it truly did scar you for life. You can't fake hate like yours. But's it's OK, we all know you are a real man.
I dont even know what the hell youre talking about, but I bet you felt like a hero typing it out. Congratulations. Im happy if you...
I dont even know what the hell youre talking about, but I bet you felt like a hero typing it out. Congratulations. Im happy if you guys want to pretend that a born man is a woman. Doesnt bother me down here in "the holler". Maybe u should ask yourself what kind of emotional trauma u endured to take such offense to my words? Where have I "hated" anybody? Until the american psychiatric council was invaded by liberals, transgendring was treated as a psychological issue. I feel it still is. You are happy to cheerlead while those people face huge issues that sometimes involve butchering themselves surgically. You are a fucking monster, and your smart aleck tolerance doesnt help those people.
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
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6/23/2014 8:17pm
I wish the guy well, but the fact that he races women is the issue- and he/she is cherry picking. All the other stuff is secondary...
I wish the guy well, but the fact that he races women is the issue- and he/she is cherry picking. All the other stuff is secondary to the facts of a man racing women.
Cherry picking you say? Now how many times have we seen a B rider win at Loretta's, and then the next weekend run top 5 at an AMA National? Everyone rides the wrong class a t Loretta's.

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6/23/2014 8:36pm
Hurray for you, buddy. Just ignore genetics and chromosomes and cheer loudly! Im happy for you, mr. Open mindedness!im calling a man a man and youre...
Hurray for you, buddy. Just ignore genetics and chromosomes and cheer loudly! Im happy for you, mr. Open mindedness!im calling a man a man and youre on here distancing yourself from my radical, close-minded views lol. Are you hearing yourself as you think? Wow.
Oh. You study genetics? Help us with this:

"A lot of unintended harm happens when people assume a Y chromosome makes a person a boy or a man and the lack of a Y chromosome makes a person a girl or a woman. For example, one physician educator on our Medical Advisory Board had the challenging experience of trying to calm a 23-year-old patient who had just been told by a resident that she was “really a man” because the resident had diagnosed the patient as having a Y chromosome and complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS).

It is true that in typical male development, the SRY gene on the tip of the Y chromosome helps to send the embryo down the masculine pathway. But more than the SRY is needed for sex determination and differentiation; for example, women with CAIS have the SRY gene but lack androgen receptors. In terms of hormone effects on their bodies (including their brains), women with CAIS have had much less “masculinization” than the average 46,XX woman because their cells do not respond to androgens.

Moreover, the SRY gene can be translocated onto an X chromosome (so that a 46,XX person may develop along a typical masculine pathway), and there are dozens of genes on chromosomes other than the X and the Y that contribute to sexual differentiation. And beyond the genes, a person’s sex development can be significantly influenced by environmental factors (including the maternal uterine environment in which the fetus developed).

So it is simply incorrect to think that you can tell a person’s sex just looking at whether he or she has a Y chromosome."
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6/23/2014 8:41pm
bigborefan wrote:
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the...
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
Guessing you are 12, maybe 13.
6/23/2014 9:03pm
bigborefan wrote:
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the...
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
You seriously have something wrong with you. Your hatred of me for questioning the mechanics of the transgendered mind says more about you than does my supposed bigotry against the trans folk. What dark secret eats away at the corners of your mind that make you act out like youre doing here? Do you think youre heroically defending the downtrodden? What makes a mind like yours tick? I had a guy on a politics facebook page that acted just as you are, then he messaged me saying that he hopes my wife and kids are raped, tortured and murdered. You guys on the left sure love your perverted sex fantasies.
6/23/2014 9:07pm Edited Date/Time 6/23/2014 9:08pm
bigborefan wrote:
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the...
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
mx836 wrote:
Guessing you are 12, maybe 13.
Lets keep in mind that this same guy called me a hateful bigot;Then he used gay slurs against me .Self-awareness isnt his strongest attribute lol


6/23/2014 9:14pm
toroP wrote:
Oh. You study genetics? Help us with this: "A lot of unintended harm happens when people assume a Y chromosome makes a person a boy or...
Oh. You study genetics? Help us with this:

"A lot of unintended harm happens when people assume a Y chromosome makes a person a boy or a man and the lack of a Y chromosome makes a person a girl or a woman. For example, one physician educator on our Medical Advisory Board had the challenging experience of trying to calm a 23-year-old patient who had just been told by a resident that she was “really a man” because the resident had diagnosed the patient as having a Y chromosome and complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS).

It is true that in typical male development, the SRY gene on the tip of the Y chromosome helps to send the embryo down the masculine pathway. But more than the SRY is needed for sex determination and differentiation; for example, women with CAIS have the SRY gene but lack androgen receptors. In terms of hormone effects on their bodies (including their brains), women with CAIS have had much less “masculinization” than the average 46,XX woman because their cells do not respond to androgens.

Moreover, the SRY gene can be translocated onto an X chromosome (so that a 46,XX person may develop along a typical masculine pathway), and there are dozens of genes on chromosomes other than the X and the Y that contribute to sexual differentiation. And beyond the genes, a person’s sex development can be significantly influenced by environmental factors (including the maternal uterine environment in which the fetus developed).

So it is simply incorrect to think that you can tell a person’s sex just looking at whether he or she has a Y chromosome."
All valid points. I wont disagree, but in this case its been established he is male but chooses to be a female. Fine with me but it is a stretch to let him run roughshod over real women when the guy has competitively raced men. The defenders of this nonsense are running on pure make-believe chivalry and not on reality. White knights of the transgendered oppressed.
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6/23/2014 9:30pm
I wish the guy well, but the fact that he races women is the issue- and he/she is cherry picking. All the other stuff is secondary...
I wish the guy well, but the fact that he races women is the issue- and he/she is cherry picking. All the other stuff is secondary to the facts of a man racing women.
bigborefan wrote:
Cherry picking you say? Now how many times have we seen a B rider win at Loretta's, and then the next weekend run top 5 at...
Cherry picking you say? Now how many times have we seen a B rider win at Loretta's, and then the next weekend run top 5 at an AMA National? Everyone rides the wrong class a t Loretta's.
Zero times. I have seen that 0 times. Show me one.
6/23/2014 9:33pm
Grizz wrote:
Zero times. I have seen that 0 times. Show me one.
He cant show you. Hes worked himself into a transgendered-fueled frenzy and hes firing his cannons wildly.
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6/23/2014 9:34pm
bigborefan wrote:
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the...
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
mx836 wrote:
Guessing you are 12, maybe 13.
Lets keep in mind that this same guy called me a hateful bigot;Then he used gay slurs against me .Self-awareness isnt his strongest attribute lol


Now Ace, ease up little buddy. I never called you any names. And why do you assume I am some kind of leftist?
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6/23/2014 9:38pm
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Wow, what a friendly bunch. I have young sons and I have noticed there's a lot more tolerance in these young folks than guys my age...
Wow, what a friendly bunch.

I have young sons and I have noticed there's a lot more tolerance in these young folks than guys my age. Not a lot of racism and homophobia in my boys and their friends.

How wonderful for you. We intolerant cretins want a male to not race in the female class because its cheating at its very core, yet we...
How wonderful for you. We intolerant cretins want a male to not race in the female class because its cheating at its very core, yet we are ruthless bigots and crazed homophobes for pointing out what should be obvious. The fact that you and your kids are oblivious to the advantages of male genetics in sports requiring strength and endurance doesnt make you a noble progressive sage. Views like yours are muddling up society with bullshit lawsuits and whole chunks of society are crying victimhood because the rest of us arent facilitating their childish nonsense.
This is your original response to my original post. I never even mentioned your name in my post.

And you just went bat shit crazy on me.

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6/23/2014 9:40pm
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know he's a very tolerant fellow.
6/23/2014 9:52pm
slipdog wrote:
I'll cast no judgment because transgenders have it tougher in life than most, but a female born in a mans body is still a man physically.
This is the only post that matters. Its spot on.

Things get difficult in this topic. So many variables. For started, LL is a huge sandbag fest, so this latest incident is pretty par for the course.

So many other dynamics to ponder as well. Women compete with men all the time, this taking away from a mans spot in qualifying. Yet even a transgender can't return the favor. The double standard makes this just a difficult topic IMO.
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6/23/2014 9:57pm
Pretty simple if you ask me. He's a fucking man, or was. However you pussies want to say it, he shouldn't be allowed to race with women. How can you even question it? End of story.
6/23/2014 10:16pm
bigborefan wrote:
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know...
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know he's a very tolerant fellow.
I hope you know what youre talking about cause no one else does.
6/23/2014 10:20pm
bigborefan wrote:
Wow, what a friendly bunch. I have young sons and I have noticed there's a lot more tolerance in these young folks than guys my age...
Wow, what a friendly bunch.

I have young sons and I have noticed there's a lot more tolerance in these young folks than guys my age. Not a lot of racism and homophobia in my boys and their friends.

How wonderful for you. We intolerant cretins want a male to not race in the female class because its cheating at its very core, yet we...
How wonderful for you. We intolerant cretins want a male to not race in the female class because its cheating at its very core, yet we are ruthless bigots and crazed homophobes for pointing out what should be obvious. The fact that you and your kids are oblivious to the advantages of male genetics in sports requiring strength and endurance doesnt make you a noble progressive sage. Views like yours are muddling up society with bullshit lawsuits and whole chunks of society are crying victimhood because the rest of us arent facilitating their childish nonsense.
bigborefan wrote:
This is your original response to my original post. I never even mentioned your name in my post. And you just went bat shit crazy on...
This is your original response to my original post. I never even mentioned your name in my post.

And you just went bat shit crazy on me.

I was replying both to you and an earlier poster who was insinuating we were bigots for questioning a man racing as a woman. I took it as an insinuation by you that you agreed, by the wording of your post. Still doesnt explain your fantasies of me guzzling tranny semen.
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6/24/2014 12:18am
This sick fuck, cut off his dick, got a boob job, takes female hormones, and now thinks it's a woman?
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6/24/2014 12:28am
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This sick fuck, cut off his dick, got a boob job, takes female hormones, and now thinks it's a woman?
Read up on gender dysphoria, it'll help explain the situation. It coulda been you, no need to hate. I understand that people generally don't like what they don't understand, do be that guy bro Smile
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6/24/2014 12:33am
bigborefan wrote:
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the...
You sure get spun up easily Ace. Did you pick up a tranny at the bar by mistake sometime, and you liked it? Happens all the time here in SoCal. Is that what this is all about? Self hatred for liking a little tranny c*@k? It's OK, we won't tell anyone.

Did you swallow Ace?
You seriously have something wrong with you. Your hatred of me for questioning the mechanics of the transgendered mind says more about you than does my...
You seriously have something wrong with you. Your hatred of me for questioning the mechanics of the transgendered mind says more about you than does my supposed bigotry against the trans folk. What dark secret eats away at the corners of your mind that make you act out like youre doing here? Do you think youre heroically defending the downtrodden? What makes a mind like yours tick? I had a guy on a politics facebook page that acted just as you are, then he messaged me saying that he hopes my wife and kids are raped, tortured and murdered. You guys on the left sure love your perverted sex fantasies.
Bringing a simplistic polarization of left/right politics into this issue of gender dysphoria is absurd. Mr G does this all the time in the off topic section... the world doesn't fit neatly into your two boxes dude. Read up on gender dysphoria and imagine your offspring in a similar situation... you'll find yourself less frustrated with the 1st world problems and you'll have a higher chance of not dying aloneSmile
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6/24/2014 12:35am
Sunhouse wrote:
Are the mods going to remove this thread? I hope the person being discussed hasn´t read this medieval redneck filth Sick
RbR wrote:
You do understand that you are calling MX Sports a "medieval redneck filth" organization ... MX Sports disqualified the guy, not anyone on this board. Nice...
You do understand that you are calling MX Sports a "medieval redneck filth" organization ... MX Sports disqualified the guy, not anyone on this board. Nice. LOL.
I´m calling the perverted comments filth.

I would also like to add that two years ago a certain rider was jokingly said to have sand in his vagina - which obviously was a metaphor, and the thread and OP was clicked. But in this case all the redneck know-hows are allowed to discuss the sexual features and body of someone they don´t know, and judge her life changing choices.

Kongols was clicked for reporting a harmless rumor. But it is apparently OK to rip on someone for gender issues, the "chopping off of ball sacks" etc.

If they only had a day in that persons shoes, how different their attitude would be.
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6/24/2014 1:55am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2014 2:31am
bigborefan wrote:
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know...
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know he's a very tolerant fellow.
I hope you know what youre talking about cause no one else does.
Actually I know what he is talking about......he is making reference to Lemmy from Motorhead since "Ace of Spades" is a well known Motorhead song.

I also happen to know Lemmy since I spent about 15 years in Metal bands and I doubt he would be kicking anyone's ass since he is about 5' 2" and roundabout 68 years old now.

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6/24/2014 2:05am
bigborefan wrote:
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know...
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know he's a very tolerant fellow.
I hope you know what youre talking about cause no one else does.
jndmx wrote:
Actually I know what he is talking about......he is making reference to Lemmy from Motorhead since "Ace of Spades" is a well known Motorhead song. I...
Actually I know what he is talking about......he is making reference to Lemmy from Motorhead since "Ace of Spades" is a well known Motorhead song.

I also happen to know Lemmy since I spent about 15 years in Metal bands and I doubt he would be kicking anyone's ass since he is about 5' 2" and roundabout 68 years old now.

Please do not try to muddy this discussion with facts. It's confusing enough.Woohoo Silly
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6/24/2014 4:22am
I miss the 70's...
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6/24/2014 4:38am Edited Date/Time 6/24/2014 4:50am
Damn,

First, I have no idea how the Guy feels about being a girl, my feeling are he got dealt a bad hand in life and
for that I wish HIM well. He did not make that choice anymore than a gay or lesbian female makes that choice.

The issue is, and should be, what parts and hormone levels does He / She have now. My Daughter races against
this person, She / He rides like a man...not a female, and I have seen the fastest of the fast females rides worldwide.

If you open the gate up on this one, where does it stop? We have seen this in society...

On the other hand, Davey let Kevin Cozzard ride C class after being a pro, lets check his shorts and see if can
ride with the ladies...JK


Hmmm... IIII don't want a pickle...I just wantaaa ride my motocicle?
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6/24/2014 5:16am
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Race in the right class. With guys! Equality and being fair is one thing.... this let's not say true things cause we might offend bs, it's...
Race in the right class. With guys!

Equality and being fair is one thing.... this let's not say true things cause we might offend bs, it's getting tired.
I was a great football player but a 6th man in high school basketball (didn't start). I have played ball with a couple of girls who play in the WNBA (women's pro ball) I more then held my own.
I'm glad women have separate classes they deserve to play sports to. Are there elite girls that can hang, sure but at an elite level.... not a chance. This transgender was taking advantage and got Dq'd.... The right call!
You must be one hell of a basketball player if you hung with a couple of WNBA player's. You play college ball? If not, you're full of shit
6/24/2014 6:07am
bigborefan wrote:
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know...
You know Ace, I bet Lemmy would kick the dog shit out of you. Why don't you fly out and I'll introduce you to him.You know he's a very tolerant fellow.
I hope you know what youre talking about cause no one else does.
jndmx wrote:
Actually I know what he is talking about......he is making reference to Lemmy from Motorhead since "Ace of Spades" is a well known Motorhead song. I...
Actually I know what he is talking about......he is making reference to Lemmy from Motorhead since "Ace of Spades" is a well known Motorhead song.

I also happen to know Lemmy since I spent about 15 years in Metal bands and I doubt he would be kicking anyone's ass since he is about 5' 2" and roundabout 68 years old now.

I cant believe I didnt catch that reference. Lol. I had the card in mind, not the band when I chose my nic. Was never much of a motorhead fan. Good band, I just never listened much.
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I met Danielle riding indoors @ RIMX in Racine WI and Cedar Lake Arena in WI, fixed Danielle's bike @ Arenacross over the past winter and rode with Danielle in the spring in Illinois. To Danielle's defense, I had no idea there was a gender issue for a few months untill it was pointed out by another racer that knew some background but I chose to not bring it up. As a father/mechanic/pastor I noticed Danielle was always alone and communicated that I would be available for help anytime. During this time I learned Danielle's Father was the moto influence and he died while Danielle was in High School, Danielle's mother past away a few years later tragically. Danielle communicated that life has been a incredible struggle since and just recently has a renewed passion for MX which has been the main ingredient to press on.

One old indian proverb that has helped me is to "Never judge a person untill we have walked a mile in thier moccasins! " It is my prayer that Danielle will continue to keep riding and racing as Danielle stomps that YZ 250 and had 70 hrs on a 14 YZF 450 by last winter!

There aren't enough kindred moto souls as the sport seems to still be shrinking and we sure don't need to kill our own wounded so If Danielle ever motos again lets give support and encourage Danielle to sign up for the right class!

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