Adam Cianciarulo shoulder...

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3/23/2014 7:34am
As he rode off into the pits he sunk his head into his bars. He was so devastated.
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3/23/2014 7:37am
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He's gotta be out for a least 3 rounds with that or i want what they give him.
+1000!!!

Gutted for the kid, he was killing it. I hope he decides to get the surgery now, in my experience that is the only way to make it right again. Actually i'm hoping this 3rd surgery of mine is a charm.
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3/23/2014 7:41am
Jarid332 wrote:
As he rode off into the pits he sunk his head into his bars. He was so devastated.
Kids who win titles their first time out, typically don't have a hard time keeping rides for many years to come. Look at Canard. You don't get a second chance to win in your first attempt (clearly). Although, some of the greats like RC and Stewart also had seasons similar to this, fastest on the track and lost due to crashes.

He is likely going to lose this title due to this injury. This is a game changing moment for him, and I am sure he will use it as motivation in the future. But its obviously understandable how devastating it is. He had it in his grasp. I just hope that this shoulder doesn't become a long term chronic injury. People I know who have shoulder injuries (myself included), know that shoulders can sometimes never heal correctly. I am sure he will get the surgeries to be sure he has the best shot, but man, that kind of dislocation doesn't look good... Hoping for a clean recovery and a successful return. I hope he doesn't shred himself further trying to eek out this title.
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3/23/2014 8:08am
I've had that happen to my shoulder several times. When it did, I cannot think how far from my thoughts it was to jump on a dirt bike and go FAST. I cannot even believe I saw him trying to do so. It made me realize, again, that a PRO athletic level was never within my reach.

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If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the...
If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the same. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and they were out for ten years, then AC will be out for 10 years. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and just kept racing that same day, then AC will be fine. STAMP IT.
^spot on.
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3/23/2014 8:15am
Heartbreaking, absolutely heartbreaking. Kid was so good.
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3/23/2014 8:19am
bullpen658 wrote:
If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the...
If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the same. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and they were out for ten years, then AC will be out for 10 years. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and just kept racing that same day, then AC will be fine. STAMP IT.
Regis wrote:
^spot on.
I agree with but I don't personally know anyone who's shoulder started popping out and then was OK the next week. I guess we will all see by next weekend. I wish him the best, the kid seems to be the real deal.
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3/23/2014 8:24am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 8:26am
bullpen658 wrote:
If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the...
If there is one thing I've learned in all my years of breaking bones, tearing cartilage, and ripping tendons, it's that EVERY injury is exactly the same. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and they were out for ten years, then AC will be out for 10 years. If one of the interweb commandos on here ever popped their shoulder out of socket and just kept racing that same day, then AC will be fine. STAMP IT.
Regis wrote:
^spot on.
BAMX wrote:
I agree with but I don't personally know anyone who's shoulder started popping out and then was OK the next week. I guess we will all...
I agree with but I don't personally know anyone who's shoulder started popping out and then was OK the next week. I guess we will all see by next weekend. I wish him the best, the kid seems to be the real deal.
And I agree with you. That was the emotion we saw last night. Not because his shoulder popped out and he couldn't finish that race.

That was emotion from realizing he has a real problem. 4 points down is a bummer but not a need to be consoled like that. That was a realization that it came out multiple times and won't be something he can just ride through. He tried like a champ.

I am gutted for him. Obviously he is so young and has so many people surrounding him that I am sure whatever needs to be done will be done. He'll get through it.
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3/23/2014 8:30am
That scene of him with his parents in the pits was one of the most touching things Ive ever seen on TV. I honestly felt like I was intruding on a very personal moment where a son just realized one of his life long dreams was shattered and his parents were there to do what parents need to do in that situation...just love him and comfort him and support him.

Truly a touching moment...
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3/23/2014 8:37am
Regis wrote:
^spot on.
BAMX wrote:
I agree with but I don't personally know anyone who's shoulder started popping out and then was OK the next week. I guess we will all...
I agree with but I don't personally know anyone who's shoulder started popping out and then was OK the next week. I guess we will all see by next weekend. I wish him the best, the kid seems to be the real deal.
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And I agree with you. That was the emotion we saw last night. Not because his shoulder popped out and he couldn't finish that race. That...
And I agree with you. That was the emotion we saw last night. Not because his shoulder popped out and he couldn't finish that race.

That was emotion from realizing he has a real problem. 4 points down is a bummer but not a need to be consoled like that. That was a realization that it came out multiple times and won't be something he can just ride through. He tried like a champ.

I am gutted for him. Obviously he is so young and has so many people surrounding him that I am sure whatever needs to be done will be done. He'll get through it.
That's a pretty solid observation. I hope your wrong but like I said, I haven't seen a shoulder that pops out get better in a week. At least not good enough to hold on through a set of SX whoops.
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3/23/2014 8:39am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 8:40am
I hope he can be back next week. But as it popped out in the whoops I wouldn't be surprised to see he needs surgery. It's only two months to the outdoors too. Tough way to lose a title.

The outdoors was where we were really going to see if how he matched up against the top contenders and his old rival Webb. I'm still hoping it isn't as bad as it looked. Get well soon AC - he definitely adds excitement to the sport.
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3/23/2014 9:33am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 9:35am
yzjs7 wrote:
If he's out Davalos just got an early xmas present.
Davalos still has Bogle to worry about. He is only up 5 pts and Bogle has gained a ton of confidence in the past two races.
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Did he have 2 shoulders pop out last night or just the left side at different times? The replay from practice looked like the other side took the hit, although I don't know if that popped it out or not???
The kid seems destined to moto-greatness, I just hope this isn't going to haunt him.
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Hut wrote:
Did he have 2 shoulders pop out last night or just the left side at different times? The replay from practice looked like the other side...
Did he have 2 shoulders pop out last night or just the left side at different times? The replay from practice looked like the other side took the hit, although I don't know if that popped it out or not???
The kid seems destined to moto-greatness, I just hope this isn't going to haunt him.
He had a crash soon after the one that was shown on TV and that`s where he popped out the shoulder.
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3/23/2014 10:36am
Hut wrote:
Did he have 2 shoulders pop out last night or just the left side at different times? The replay from practice looked like the other side...
Did he have 2 shoulders pop out last night or just the left side at different times? The replay from practice looked like the other side took the hit, although I don't know if that popped it out or not???
The kid seems destined to moto-greatness, I just hope this isn't going to haunt him.
Just the left side.

During the telecast why said that the crash didn't injure his shoulder. The first should pop out happened later.
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3/23/2014 10:40am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 10:41am
I had the same dislocation in 1993. It can go 1 of 2 ways: If it come out again after the initial dislocation, it means there is a tear in the capsule surrounding the ball of the shoulder and surgery IS required. It appears Adam's shoulder falls into that category.

That being said, technology and procedures have improved significantly since 1994. I would have no trouble believing that if he underwent a surgical procedure immediately, and then underwent an intensive physical rehabilitation program starting also almost immediately, he could make the nationals AND be pretty close to where he was before the injury (maybe even 100%.)

I am not a doctor, but I know A LOT of them and I also know that the options for a top level athlete like Adam are pretty impressive. If it IS possible, it would involve making the difficult decision to remove him from the supercross season now, with the bet that he could still kill it in the outdoors.

I would guess that those are the options currently being weighed by AC, his family, his team, and his doctors.
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Bankart... Bank it!
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"He had a crash soon after the one that was shown on TV and that`s where he popped out the shoulder."
Just the left side.

"During the telecast why said that the crash didn't injure his shoulder. The first should pop out happened later."

Thanks for the clarification, I wasn't sure.
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Bankart... Bank it!
I hope they can fix that
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3/23/2014 10:57am Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 11:01am
So what was the mechanicail he had that made him crash and dislocate his left shoulder? I been sick and have a. 1 and 3 year old screaming the hole time I'm trying to watch so hard to hear but thought that's what they said?
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I've had problems with mine popping out since I first dislocated it in a crash when I was 15. I know the causes may be different, but I have to use the exact same technique to put mine back in so I'm guessing it's similar. One time I popped it out on a Friday (drunken antics, not MX) and tried to race on a Saturday night. I made it about halfway through my heat race before it popped out again. And the track I was on didn't have any supercross whoops. There were only two of us in my class and I was chasing points so I was went back out for the main with the intent of riding one lap and collecting my points. Even that slow lap was incredibly painful. I can't imagine how it must have felt for him to go back out onto a real supercross track to keep trying..that takes some grit.
I'd say he would be a long shot for next week, but it might be possible. Mine usually it feels back to strength in a couple weeks. I know, I know, all injuries are different.
The part that sucks the most... at this point if he pulls out to get surgery, is there enough time to be recovered for outdoors?
I really feel for the kid, he was looking so good.
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3/23/2014 11:29am
I wonder if this was a problem for awhile. On the DMXS show they were joking with Kenny Roczen asking if he could beat Adam at arm wrestling and he said, oh his arm would probably pop out of socket.
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3/23/2014 11:47am
Definitely a major bummer. If it requires surgery at least we all know that Aldon Baker can bring his guys back from season ending surgeries to win championships.
3/23/2014 11:53am
I hate this for AC. He was well on his way to winning a championship his rookie year and will now probably have to bow out to get surgery. I hope he's healthy for the nationals
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That gave me a flashback to a conversation with a Dr Almquist in Orange Ca who fixed my chronically dislocating shoulder!

Originally went to another doc who said he'd do a Bristow procedure and that I should stop doing mx...the "stop mx" comment told me right there that this was NOT the doc for me.

Some mx buddies recommenedd I go to Dr Almquist...what a difference! He asked what the other doc had told me and he then made some comment about the guy being "archaic" and that instead of the Bristow procedure, he'd be doing a Bankart procedure with a screw and that I'd be good as new and back on a bike in no time. So glad I made the visit to Almquist and dumped the other guy!
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3/23/2014 2:02pm
He will most likely need to have a Bankart repair done with a labrum anchoring. I had mine done last November and am just now ready to get on the bike again. Long slow recovery regardless what level you are on....
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3/23/2014 2:43pm
I'll be amazed if makes the start of the outdoors. So bummed for him, at least he KNOWS he has the speed and endurance for SX now. I can't help but think he's too damn fast for his current strength. Get well soon, take your time and come back and get a title.
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If I remember correctly, he has already had a shoulder surgery 2 maybe 3 years ago. Labrum repair is a 6 month recovery.

Unfortunately we have been down this path. My son had left fixed twice and right once. AC is young and has a good career ahead of him. I'd go with getting it fixed right away and show up next year.
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3/23/2014 4:27pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2014 4:33pm
424 wrote:
If I remember correctly, he has already had a shoulder surgery 2 maybe 3 years ago. Labrum repair is a 6 month recovery. Unfortunately we have...
If I remember correctly, he has already had a shoulder surgery 2 maybe 3 years ago. Labrum repair is a 6 month recovery.

Unfortunately we have been down this path. My son had left fixed twice and right once. AC is young and has a good career ahead of him. I'd go with getting it fixed right away and show up next year.
I torn my labrum at Pontiac SX, April 1st, 2000. I had to have a full surgery (Bankart with Labrum anchoring) and this was after an arthroscopic I had on the same shoulder back in December of '99 for Labrum repair. I was back for Southwick June 11th. I guess it just depends on different factors.

I just looked up those dates and can't believe I came back for Southwick that soon. I never should have been out there. I threw myself to the wolves so to speak. Oh, to be young and dumb. I just wanted to race my bike, get paid (my contract was set up to be paid more per race than a salary) and experience the ride I had.

At a much, much different level, I had a very similar day as AC and it brought back some bummer memories. My shoulder came out in practice and went back in after a few minutes. I tried to convince myself it was going to be ok. Lined up for the qualifier and popped it out on the first lap coming up short on a little double, not even crashing while in 2nd. I was devastated.

Like I said, I understand this is nowhere near the level of AC, but the emotions that followed were similar watching him on TV. I spent a few years just trying to get that ride, a lot of work once I got it and then sitting at the race after it came out twice I was just emotionally wrecked knowing a surgery and a lot of time was coming up.

AC will be ok, he will go on to win championships. I just hope he rests, gets whatever needs to be done and has it done right. Would hate to see lingering shoulder injury hurt his career. But then again, I was never 4 points out of a SX championship. The sport can be brutal.

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