Back injuries... and motocross

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3/11/2014 12:27am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 12:34am
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Man, you guys have seriously gone through the ringer. I know it doesn't help much to say, but hopefully you guys can find something that works...
Man, you guys have seriously gone through the ringer. I know it doesn't help much to say, but hopefully you guys can find something that works, I was cringing reading all of the stuff you guys have been through.Pinch
Ya that's for sure! You wouldn't believe the injuries I've had! Broke both ankles twice, left wrist 4 times, right wrist 9 times! (seriously 9 times...
Ya that's for sure! You wouldn't believe the injuries I've had! Broke both ankles twice, left wrist 4 times, right wrist 9 times! (seriously 9 times and not including sprains!), right collarbone 3 times, dislocated right shoulder countless times, torn right MCL countless times, broke fibula in left leg that required 3 surgeries, fractured skull with 34 stitches, cracked my sternum and 5 ribs in the same crash, broken back, and been knocked out cold 4 times.

One time I broke both wrists and my ankle and didn't even crash in Bull Run, Maine! Over shot a jump in the lead while about to get passed and landed in the flat. My left wrist looked like a set of stairs! lol These are just the injuries I can remember and there was way more!

Oh ya! I broke my thumb almost off (with surgery) when I whipped it too far and couldn't bring it back, off a ramp! I actually saw the footage recently in a video called "Refusing to Grow Up" by Craig Durkee in Arizona.

Check out this video clip of when my roommates bike coughed off the ramp and I came up way short! Don't ever ride without a cross bar pad and pro taper bars! lol


But watching some old 2 stroke footage of me back in the day always makes me feel a little better! lol


This was when I was pretty fearless before the back injuries! The wrists and collarbones never bothered me, but the back just puts the fear in you that ends all of it. At one point I was doing the IFMA and regular Demo FMX shows and pretty decent. All that came to a end with one wheel spin while seat bouncing 75' and compressed my spine!
If you have ever seen the first Nitro Circus videos or Global Addiction by Gregg Godfrey, I'm in those and some of the same clips are in my riding demo below from years ago. Those were the days! Sad
You can't sleep too I see...LMAO. Out of all the tricks, stunts, and wrecks, I prefer the dead cow Jump the most.. Lol. Could of been a new sport, Animalcross.

On a side note, another thing that pisses me off is that I never missed one Houston Supercross, ever!!. Because of this shit, 2009 was my last trip. Two hour drive, and all that walking can't do. Sometimes I think being paralized would be better. No more pain, and I could Just have a scooter.
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3/11/2014 12:41am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 12:55am
This Is the only video I have of myself. They're others but I don't know where. I'm only in it once. I'm on the 2008 YZ450 whipping It on the table at 1:15. It shows me from behind. I'm 38 In there, so I lost a little mustard on that whip. Watching my old self always makes me depressed bad, so I'd rather not.

Never mind, don't know how to load the vid from Youtube
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You can't sleep too I see...LMAO. Out of all the tricks, stunts, and wrecks, I prefer the dead cow Jump the most.. Lol. Could of been...
You can't sleep too I see...LMAO. Out of all the tricks, stunts, and wrecks, I prefer the dead cow Jump the most.. Lol. Could of been a new sport, Animalcross.

On a side note, another thing that pisses me off is that I never missed one Houston Supercross, ever!!. Because of this shit, 2009 was my last trip. Two hour drive, and all that walking can't do. Sometimes I think being paralized would be better. No more pain, and I could Just have a scooter.
Lol nope my back is killing me and laying in bed seems to actually make it worse and sleeping is hard. That's funny that you say that about the cow jump! Gregg Godfrey was in Arizona filming Nate Adams and all the Arizona guys one day. That cow got hit by a car and at the end of the shoot he offered anyone $100 to run over it and every single of the riders were scared to do it! I jumped on the chance to be in his movie Global Addiction and did that and also a huge water crossing that I almost made! lol I got the money and made the movie! lol A bunch of other FMX riders were out there that day and didn't make the movie but my clips certainly stood out! ha!
I was pumped but then I was pissed cause he didn't put my name in the video! I then had a bunch of footage for Godfrey and Pastrana for the first Nitro Circus video and wouldn't give him it unless he absolutely put my name in the credits! lmao Well he stood by his word and its in there, so I was happy to be part of the first Nitro Circus video! Woohoo Sometimes its the little things that count! Laughing
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3/11/2014 1:04am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 7:08am
I enjoy hearing stories like yourself and others have, that's cool. Thank God for the Internet!!! I never even used the Internet before I got hurt. I was too busy working, working out, riding, you name It. I think If I had got hurt in the age of no Internet, I would gone even more bat shit crazy!!!!

Oh and, Laying In bed does make It worse, but doing too much also makes It worse. Dam if you do, dam If you don't.

Send me a message on here later down the road, and let me know how you're doing.

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3/11/2014 2:15am
How much does icing help? Have you tried those magnet belts?
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3/11/2014 2:58am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 2:59am
The Rock wrote:
How much does icing help? Have you tried those magnet belts?
I iced mine almost everyday for the first 2 years. Eventually I gave up when I noticed it probably wasn't going to get any better. A hot bath is the only thing that helps, but that only last while you're In the hot water. In the winter I prop my legs up by the fire place, that feels good.

Never tried a magnet belt, and couldn't tell you what one looks like.
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I had a microdiscectomy (sp?) on MemorialDay, coming up on 4 years ago.
L4 blown to bits.
The doc said he took a medium sized shrimp out.
It had squeezed into my spinal cord, pinching it to the size of a pencil lead.

Same crap, started with pain in lower left back, over time went down my butt cheek,
then felt like it was a bad hip, more time and work it went extended down my outer thigh, behind the knee.
Setting some roof trusses by myself did the deed, ended up with pain all the wayto the underside of my left foot.

Left me flipping like a fish out of water on the floor.

After the operation, which turned into a lumbarectomy (sp?), that is they had to make a big hole to get the crap out,
pain down the leg was gone right away.

But it felt like I had a big swivel in my lower back, and felt like I had been kicked by a horse back there.

It took 3 years to get back to maybe 70%.

This year, the 4th year, it still get's stiff and aches after a long day of work.
I don't lift anything over say, 50 lbs anymore.
Got rid of the dirtbikes and went back to street riding.

With me, it just took a long, long time to heal.
Even the doc wondered why i wasn't dancing in the street after 6 months.
All I know is, it's still getting stronger, 4 years later, bit by bit.


All I can say is hang in there guys, take some time and take it easy.

This back thing, you can't rush it.
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I had a microdiscectomy (sp?) on MemorialDay, coming up on 4 years ago. L4 blown to bits. The doc said he took a medium sized shrimp...
I had a microdiscectomy (sp?) on MemorialDay, coming up on 4 years ago.
L4 blown to bits.
The doc said he took a medium sized shrimp out.
It had squeezed into my spinal cord, pinching it to the size of a pencil lead.

Same crap, started with pain in lower left back, over time went down my butt cheek,
then felt like it was a bad hip, more time and work it went extended down my outer thigh, behind the knee.
Setting some roof trusses by myself did the deed, ended up with pain all the wayto the underside of my left foot.

Left me flipping like a fish out of water on the floor.

After the operation, which turned into a lumbarectomy (sp?), that is they had to make a big hole to get the crap out,
pain down the leg was gone right away.

But it felt like I had a big swivel in my lower back, and felt like I had been kicked by a horse back there.

It took 3 years to get back to maybe 70%.

This year, the 4th year, it still get's stiff and aches after a long day of work.
I don't lift anything over say, 50 lbs anymore.
Got rid of the dirtbikes and went back to street riding.

With me, it just took a long, long time to heal.
Even the doc wondered why i wasn't dancing in the street after 6 months.
All I know is, it's still getting stronger, 4 years later, bit by bit.


All I can say is hang in there guys, take some time and take it easy.

This back thing, you can't rush it.
Thanks Brother...... I agree.
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3/11/2014 7:24am
I tell ya Seymour, the big thing now isn't the pain, it's the mental thing I'm having a hard time with.

Was a time, I was the big breadwinner.
Any job, it wasn't going good, I just hit it harder.

Get it done.

Now, heck, I have to watch it like a little bitch.

I know I've lost 2 customers that felt I just didn't have it anymore, that if I hurt
myself on their job they'd be in big shit with a comp claim or whatever.


Where does the leader of the pack go, when he can't lead the pack anymore?
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3/11/2014 7:31am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 7:35am
I had 2 ruptured discs, L4/L5 and L5/S1. My symptoms started with a tiny hamstring pain and 7 months later it escalated to the point where my leg was either numb or I had charlie horse pain from my ass cheek to my calf 100% of the time. There was no "normal" feeling left. I also lost bladder control and started pissing my pants. My insurance company kept denying my surgery until my doctor admitted me to the hospital through the ER with a broken wrist that I sustained while trying to get down my stairs (leg went numb and I went for a tumble). His reasoning was that the longer we waited, the greater the chance my symptoms would be irreversible and in his opinion, I had days left. My surgery was August 3rd, 2012.

I woke up from surgery (microdiscectomy) and all the pain in my leg was completely gone. For the first time in months, I could bend my leg without pain. My back hurt like hell where they cut me but literally ALL of my leg pain was gone. At week 7 I put on my hockey skates for the first time and got back on the ice (non contact). In the spring of 2013, I signed up and raced for the first time since before the injury and then proceeded to race every weekend for the entire summer.

I still have some minor setbacks from time to time but my doctor told me that would happen because my nerve was so badly damaged. He said it may or may not go away but I am 97% better and when the flair ups happen, they are not nearly as bad as the original injury. I have been able to limit the flair ups with a good training program (see my advice below).

My advice? 1. Always avoid surgery if you can but if you have to have it, a microdiscectomy is probably the safest back surgery you can have. It's one of the only surgeries where there is a huge chance it will help, a small chance it won't but ZERO chance it will make you worse (barring a mistake by the doctor). 2. Once you are healed up, ease into a training program that focuses on your core. If you have a strong core it will take the pressure off your spine a bit and it really helps. 3. look at how you treat your back. I was always a strong guy so I abused my back when I picked things up. I made some small changes like always remembering to lift with my legs, I ditched my over the shoulder hockey bag for one with wheels and I stretch all the time to stay loose.

Sorry for the long winded response but I was in your position a couple of years ago and felt desperate. I just wanted to say that I am back to a completely normal life of racing MX and playing hockey 2-3 nights a week so don't lose hope. Hang in there.
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By no means am I a Dr , but I wanted to relay my experience.

35 yrs of dirt bikes and construction have given me a lot of aches in my spine and lower neck. Found a great physical therapist and she has cured every pain in my body, I now go in for a "tune up" every 6-8 months.

She said 90% of her clientele were told by their doctors the surgery was needed when in fact they were being lied to or misdiagnosed.
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I fractured my L3 horizontally all the way across and broke a large piece off in my nerve and also burst two discs and bulged two. I was paralyzed and seizuring. The worst pain I ever felt, like a blowtorch was in my hip and I've shattered my feet and this was ten times worse. Micrdisectomy and frag removal made me back to 98 percent and I was landing on my head again over 100 footers again 8 months later. It also fixed an issue I had in my back that would put me out of commission a few times a year.
Dr. Fuchs Orthopedics specialists of SW Florida.
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When I woke up it was a miracle. I had zero pain at all. I could not believe it. I was waiting for the meds to wear off like a trick but the pain was really gone. I even cheated. I was paying these slow guys by the hour to put a roof on one of my sheds. Three days after surgery I was throwing sheets of plywood up on the roof to show how slow these guys were. It got them working harder. It was another miracle.
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When I woke up it was a miracle. I had zero pain at all. I could not believe it. I was waiting for the meds to...
When I woke up it was a miracle. I had zero pain at all. I could not believe it. I was waiting for the meds to wear off like a trick but the pain was really gone. I even cheated. I was paying these slow guys by the hour to put a roof on one of my sheds. Three days after surgery I was throwing sheets of plywood up on the roof to show how slow these guys were. It got them working harder. It was another miracle.
Wow that's awesome the surgery helped you that much! I'm almost 3 weeks out of surgery and my back is absolutely killing me with no way to get relief and I've tried everything! I went to the Doctor yesterday and he said if I'm still in pain after 6 weeks we basically have to start over with MRI's and everything. I have a feeling the only thing that is going to help me is a full disc replacement.
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3/11/2014 8:50am
Shoot, I don't want to bring you back to the past but I loved the old nitro videos, I pretty much grew up on Nitro 2! You guys wereliving the good life for sure, I always wanted to experience the insanity.Laughing

I really hope you can find some relief guys, this thread is tough to read.
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3/11/2014 8:54am Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 8:55am
Another of my friends who has had a nightmare with his back was still in pain 2 months after but then it just healed and he is doing everything normal again with minimal pain. We thought it didn't work at first but it turned out really good.
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3/11/2014 6:51pm
FLmxer wrote:
Another of my friends who has had a nightmare with his back was still in pain 2 months after but then it just healed and he...
Another of my friends who has had a nightmare with his back was still in pain 2 months after but then it just healed and he is doing everything normal again with minimal pain. We thought it didn't work at first but it turned out really good.
Oh man I really hope that happens to me! Today was so rough and the sciatica is terrible! I'm praying that in 4 weeks I'm better!
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FLmxer wrote:
Another of my friends who has had a nightmare with his back was still in pain 2 months after but then it just healed and he...
Another of my friends who has had a nightmare with his back was still in pain 2 months after but then it just healed and he is doing everything normal again with minimal pain. We thought it didn't work at first but it turned out really good.
Oh man I really hope that happens to me! Today was so rough and the sciatica is terrible! I'm praying that in 4 weeks I'm better!
Man I really feel for you. That is like a nightmare. I would let him do another microdisectomy if the pain does not go away soon. They need to get all the bulges and frags out and I have heard that the second one can work if the first didn't. Atleast before you do anything else if possible. I wouldn't wish that discomfort on my worst enemy. Hope you guys feel better soon.
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First hurt my back in 1995, pulling back on the bars of my 125 trying to get the front wheel up for just a little more bounce on the face of a jump to get over a 4th gear double at Lake Sugartree. Felt a very sharp pain in my lower back, it was on the last lap, finished the race and got my trophy before I went to the ER. No crash involved.
Similar pain multiple times since then over the years and it seems to be happening more frequently. Multiple MRIs only show some tears in a disc, which some docs have theorized periodically leaks and then irritates the nerves. It usually feels better in a couple weeks.
No pain down the legs or numbness anywhere else.
Chiro did nothing for me. Physical therapy didn't help. I'm in the Army and still race so I have to stay in pretty good shape. Still it comes back every now and then.

Have had epidural sterioid injections but am going in to try a facet joint block Thursday. If it works, they will do a facet nerve ablation later, which will deaden the offending nerves for 6-9 months. It's a minimally invasive thing and there's really nothing to lose if it doesn't help.

BUT, I had a friend recommend a book to me on some of the alternate causes of back pain. Of course, for many of you there are some very concrete medical indicators, but for me it didn't make sense that I could go out and pound motos, but then two weeks later hurt my back by sitting up in a chair. So in addition to medical routes, I'm also considering the idea that some of my back issues are tension/stress related. I'm 41, married, kids, career... plenty of things to be worried about. Anyway, not saying this is the answer, but I can honestly say in the week since I've read the book I swear my back does feel better. We will see how it holds up in the long run. And I'm sure not canceling the facet block!!

Healing Back Pain - John Sarno MD

Honestly I think a new disc is probably my long-term answer, definnitely preferable over a fusion. It sounds like the technology has come a long way over the years and recovery is around month for a single-level replacement.
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3/11/2014 10:28pm
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I get pain that goes from the lower left side of my back,hip,behind the knee and down to my foot. Scary part is when my foot...
I get pain that goes from the lower left side of my back,hip,behind the knee and down to my foot. Scary part is when my foot was numb Monday morning could barley walk so I went in to see the Doc.. Thanks for the replies Smile
Sandberm wrote:
Sounds like a sciatic nerve issue. I could be wrong, but being a dumb old farmer with a bad back who knows other farmers with bad...
Sounds like a sciatic nerve issue.

I could be wrong, but being a dumb old farmer with a bad back who knows other farmers with bad backs...your story sounds familiar.
That's exactly what it sounds like to me too. Be there done that. Agonizing....
Like somebody else mentioned-INVERSION TABLE-.....INVEST $150 bucks or so and get yourself one. Therapuedic.

Don't dispair, there's a lot treatments available out there.....focused stretches, message.
Agree man, OP is way too young to be afflicted with this misery. Take the treatment you can, get to where you can manage it-THEN weigh your options whether you want to continue to ride & thrash your body/joints.
Trust me.....if it means MISERY down the road............DO NOT DO IT.
Proceed slowly and wisely bud.

You think it's bad now, wait 'til your our age! Unsure
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3/11/2014 10:48pm Edited Date/Time 3/11/2014 10:50pm
Found out over phone that I have a protruding disc that may require surgery... I've been riding mx and bmx since I was 3. Aside from this injury I have been very lucky and haven't broken a bone. Now I get to go over the options and see what is best... Gunna really suck if riding will be a thing of the pastSad
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Found out over phone that I have a protruding disc that may require surgery... I've been riding mx and bmx since I was 3. Aside from...
Found out over phone that I have a protruding disc that may require surgery... I've been riding mx and bmx since I was 3. Aside from this injury I have been very lucky and haven't broken a bone. Now I get to go over the options and see what is best... Gunna really suck if riding will be a thing of the pastSad
Read my story above!

And, most of all, find the right doctor. I had the same concerns and my doctor said, and I quote, "My goal is to return you to your normal life even if that life isn't so normal to most people. If you want to race and jump dirt bikes and play hockey, that is what we will do and we won't stop until modern medicine tells us there is nothing left to try". That made me feel much better and after taking a season off between the original injury and surgery/healing, I have one full racing season under my belt and ice hockey twice a week for over a year with barely a hiccup.

Stay positive and do all you can do to help yourself heal and you'll be back to normal.

PS, I'm 39.
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Any updates from you guys who have had surgery?

I've just learned that I broke my back in a crash in Nov and the doc is saying eventually I'll have to fuse my L5 and S1. My pain is tolerable, and everything I'm reading about back surgery makes me think that if my pain is a 2-5 on a scale of 1-10, then maybe I should stick with that as opposed to risk moving up on that scale.
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I'll jump on and try to keep it short.

Lower back issues for nearly 30 years. About 14 years ago had sciatic nerve problems down my right leg. Was playing softball and loved to slide and dive. It took it's toll on me. First go round just simply stretched and took a wonderful but now banned anti inflammatory called Vioxx let's say 6 months later it's gone. Almost 21 months ago pulled my back and ended up with sciatica down my left leg (moto in my life and no ball playing). Went through PT for 4 months and it got worse. My doctor and insurance screwed around and did the next step which was steroid injections to the trouble spot uncovered in the MRI's (yes, multiple MRI's). No help from the steroid injections and I'm nearly convinced from many other stories these injections rarely help for herniated disc (L5-S1). Eventually I find a new doctor last July who accepts my case and performs a microdiscectomy. He tells me I will walk out of the surgery center the same day. Surgery at 6:45 and I walk out at 11:30. My pain level went from a 9 to a 1 in just 5 hours. The plan was nothing more than walking for the first 12 weeks post op. At the 5 month mark I still had this small pain in my back and the calf pain others described here. Started PT again. It's a slow program and I was also told that I may have permanent nerve damage due to the length of time between injury and eventual surgery. Focusing on the core right now and have plans to ride again but I'm not sure if this thing will ever be 100%. Would I have surgery again? Absolutely. The lesson learned here is to jump on the program of PT and see if that works for you but if you see things going south have that conversation with your doctor and if he says surgery then jump on that. The longer you wait the more likely it seems the nerve conditions stick with you post op.
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Chris and seamor sorry to hear your pain is so great :( I'm 26 so I hope the specialist has other options come Wednesday, rather than...
Chris and seamor sorry to hear your pain is so great Sad I'm 26 so I hope the specialist has other options come Wednesday, rather than a full blown surgery...
I first herniated my l5-s1 disc on 1/1/09, I was 21, similar to how chris did, now im 26. surgery is always gonna be a last...
I first herniated my l5-s1 disc on 1/1/09, I was 21, similar to how chris did, now im 26. surgery is always gonna be a last resort even a discetomy but a fusion is deffinetly the last resort. The last 5 yrs ive seen the neurosurgon and orthopedic spine surgon several times, and as much as I wanted to get surgery at times, ive never done it, one of the main reasons is im young and surgons really dont like operating on us young guys unless its absolutly nessecary. I've had tons of ups and downs along the way, even reherniated the disc in nov 2012, 2013 was hell.

Im doing a little better now, mostly due to rest and time and an amazing physical therapist. spinehealth.com is a great site for info they also have a forum with nice ppl.
search for a physical therapist that specializes in spine/pain managment, some PT's are lifesavers but its hard to find a good one sometimes, ive had a few that just made me worse. just take it one day at a time and try to stay positive even when it seems impossible. best of luck to all
I had a nasty car wreck that resulted in a spinal compression fracture. I wasn't supposed to ever walk again. I lost 1 1/2 inches of height. T4 and T5 instantly became one. C4 C5 C6 all broken. It's the six herniated discs in my neck and the bone spurs in my neck that cause me all the trouble though.
Nerve pain is from the herniated disks is absolutely the worst thing I experienced. I found that Doctors don't care about pain. I was right there with you guys who question staying alive. Drinking heavy in order to try and get to sleep is familiar. Narcotic painkillers don't help with nerve pain is what I was told. I eventually found relief through months of Physical Therapy. Everyone I talked to who had surgery regretted it. Same with steriod shots. Like mauimotox99 it took a couple of different Therapists to make any headway, but in the end PT saved me.
When I think about how bad I hurt compared to how I feel now it seems like a bad nightmare yet I was ready to end it all. My left arm is still much weaker than my right but I can ride again. No big jumps for me though.
Good luck to all of you guys dealing with the agony of nerve pain. Keep fighting!
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Any updates from you guys who have had surgery? I've just learned that I broke my back in a crash in Nov and the doc is...
Any updates from you guys who have had surgery?

I've just learned that I broke my back in a crash in Nov and the doc is saying eventually I'll have to fuse my L5 and S1. My pain is tolerable, and everything I'm reading about back surgery makes me think that if my pain is a 2-5 on a scale of 1-10, then maybe I should stick with that as opposed to risk moving up on that scale.
On Nov. 4th I had a full disc replacement in-between my L4-L5 after years of waiting for the ProDisc to be approved. I feel a 90% reduction in pain level than before my surgery and in a few more months I should be pain free. It's actually amazing how quickly I felt better from having a major lower back surgery and my Doctor says there is no limitations on what I can do. If I wanted to ride again, I can but am afraid to mess anything up and be back in the position I was before surgery.

After going thru the whole process for over ten years and finally finding the fix to the terrible back pain I went thru, I highly recommend the ProDisc disc replacement if you have tried everything else and find out you have a torn disc. If your back is killing you start with physical therapy, then microdiscectomy, and if that doesn't fix it then a ProDisc replacement. Don't ever get a fusion!! That is old school and know so many people that is made worse and ruined their lives.

But if you read in my earlier posts, MRI's will not show torn discs and the only test to find a tear is a Discogram. I did not have a major herniation so the Doctor's told me for years I was lying about my pain and it can't be as bad as I was describing. Ten years later and my life ruined because of back pain, I finally got them to take me seriously. The torn disc ended up burning a hole in my L5 from leaking on top of the bone. The jelly inside of discs is a form of acid that will burn thru bone and that was where all my pain was coming from.

Long story short, don't let Doctor's push you aside and not take you seriously! Get a MRI and if your herniation isn't that bad but you have serious pain, you might have a torn disc. Torn discs can not be repaired and will cause you major pain!

Do lots of research and if your Doctor even mentions fusion, find a new one!
Chris O'Neal
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3/11/2015 10:31pm Edited Date/Time 3/12/2015 12:52am
This is the surgery I had and saved my life cause without it, there was no way I could take much more.
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3/11/2015 11:58pm
That changes everything!
I wish you all the best!
Saying a prayer for you.
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3/12/2015 1:53am
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The body has a strange way of healing itself and mending sometimes. And then sometimes it needs medical help. A pinched nerve usually heals up. If...
The body has a strange way of healing itself and mending sometimes. And then sometimes it needs medical help.
A pinched nerve usually heals up. If you've seen a good image of your vertebrae, you know what I mean...it's amazing to me we don't hurt our backs more often. The nerve groups are extensive. And they wind all through your spinal vertebrae through holes in the boney material. And they have a direct effect on the muscle groups in the area(and at times-further away than you'd think).
At 57, I'm reaping the thrashing I've put my back through over the decades. Don't take one physicians word for it all either, you'd be amazed at differing opinions from neurologists. It may take a while to heal up, but give it a break and take it easy....
Very true about riding should hurt us more often than it does. Its constant shock and compression on all of our joints. Obviously I just had neck surgery six weeks ago so I undertand the pain and limits in activities. What ive learned with all of my issues, the pics, and the surgery is that even before we get bad enough for surgery pain will be pretty constant because our activities cause a very high amount of wear and tear with just normal riding and crashes.
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I just had a microdiscectomy surgery to my L4-L5 disc 2 weeks ago because I have a torn disc that is leaking on my nerve causing...
I just had a microdiscectomy surgery to my L4-L5 disc 2 weeks ago because I have a torn disc that is leaking on my nerve causing terrible pain every day. It also leaked onto my L5 vertibrae and basically burnt a hole in my spine. I seriously wish I never found dirt bikes with the amount of pain I feel everyday and has ruined my quality of life. There is no way I can ride again or do anything physical without fear of pressing on the torn disc which will push out the jelly onto my nerve and cause serious pain that never ends. If this surgery doesn't help me I have to have a full disc replacement and will be down for more than a year! I don't wish this type of pain on anyone except the Doctors that have told me I'm lying about my pain! Good luck and I hope you don't have any tears in the disc cause it is brutal pain that never stops! The only way to know if you have tears is by getting a discogram test and it was so unbelievably painful!
Seems like most, not all, doctors are complete fn idiots. Going through unrelated health issues and it's shocking how clueless some docs are. Best of luck to you man.

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