MX vs ATV resurrected! MX vs ATV Supercross official press release!!

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12/21/2013 4:28pm
Can't wait!! I don't normally buy new games but I will this time for sure.
12/21/2013 4:50pm
Glad to see so many interested in MX vs ATV Supercross. I'll update you with more details when I can or when they are released.
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12/21/2013 5:10pm
reflex is what made me buy my first console, xbox 360 $500 later once I had the console and reflex, pc version didn't exist.
Alive sucked! apart from the JS7 compound and bikes, maybe could've been better if you could race supercross.
still play reflex to this day hands down best mx game ever!
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12/21/2013 5:55pm
bh84 wrote:
apparently I'm the only one who enjoyed Alive...
Me too.

Still play it over Reflex. Reflex = going over the bars for no reason all the damned time.

Also, can we just lose the "ATV" part. Would that be so bad?

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12/21/2013 6:06pm
I wish the new games would be like EA's SKATE games. I think it would be really cool to have a story line, maybe start the story mode at loretta's and progress through the pro ranks from there. It would keep it fun for core fans, and be easy to follow for more casual fans. I always enjoyed the realistic feel of the SKATE games, and I feel like it would be easy to replicate with a moto game. Break the racing action up with challenges for video parts and magazine covers. Have contracts for gear and teams.
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12/21/2013 6:17pm
Glad to see someone take over this series.......Alive kinda died on the vine halfway thru its development cycle.

Still play it quite a bit on xbox live
12/21/2013 6:20pm
My favorite MX game is MCM2. The user created content for that game was unreal.

My second favorite game is Trials Evolution for 360.

It's the simple stuff that I really enjoy.
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12/21/2013 7:30pm
I hope they have a track editor this time Evil
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12/21/2013 8:00pm Edited Date/Time 12/21/2013 8:04pm
Good news! Been playing all the mx games for the past 20 years.. Mcm2 online was the sauce. That was 1998 and we had windows live game rooms and 100 of tracks to race online with. Tournaments, private rooms everything and chatting with others was simple. At that point I was like man cant imagine what the future holds since mcm2 was so good.
Unleashed was rad especially on the pc when they made the ep and sim/hybrid physics. But I gotta say Reflex on the pc is my favorite as far as the game play, I see people talking about crashing and sliding but if you would just put in some time to get used to it its great and by far my favorite physics. Reflex on the pc/steam now has a bunch of user made tracks like Daytona,seattle and some super bad ass freeride maps with like 6 tracks on them. I play online but its just too inconsistent to join rooms and not worth the time of waiting. Only thing that keeps mx games alive is user made tracks , bike graphics, gear ect.. Unleashed is still rolling online every few months I go on mcmfactory and see new tracks. It sure would be nice to have an option of using a flight stick Smile

Here is a link to some reflex tracks, some good some bad.
http://www.mxmaniacs.com/tracks.php?trackType=FreeRide&type=All&page=1
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12/21/2013 9:27pm
Alive was better to me. At least the JS7 Compound was. With scrub and clutch master it felt great. And the tracks were the right scale...
Alive was better to me. At least the JS7 Compound was. With scrub and clutch master it felt great. And the tracks were the right scale Not 10 times too large and wide like Reflex.Not to mention the kamikaze AI of Reflex and touchiness sending your bike and rider flying hundreds of yards, unrealistically.

With that being said, other than the JS7 Compound the tracks in Alive sucked. Then again only the Supercross in Reflex were good to me. I've never liked the Nationals in any of the MVA games. Too unrealistic, too fast, too many jumps and (until Alive) too large of scale.

Hopefully MX vs ATV Supercross gets the best of both games and keeps the scale and traction of Alive while getting the better control and feel of Reflex. Good, realistic tracks are the key. The JS7 Compound is truthfully the only realistic representation of a track the series has ever had and that is because it is a replica. They tend to fantasize their own tracks too much.
Agree completely. The big scale and lack of horsepower in the bikes in Reflex just killed that game for me.
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12/21/2013 11:03pm
I likes Reflex a lot more, but honestly I could care less as long as you can buy everything within the game itself, and not have to spend actual money to buy real bikes and new tracks. That was complete bs and I am not going to buy another game if I have to pay more for different tracks and bikes after I already bought the game. Someone please enlighten me if there is a way around spending more money, but I wasn't a fan of that aspect of Alive.
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12/22/2013 1:04am
I don't usually get too fanboy about this shit, but I just hate Reflex for the most part. I'd way rather it be similar to Alive. Better scale, more down to earth speeds, physics required cornering and braking. I dunno, just liked it a lot more.
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12/22/2013 2:45am
I agree. Thought alive had most of it down. Just didn't like the goon style of the rider, the perks and the clutch boost bs.

Nordic can get a cracking game out of the two.
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12/22/2013 5:03am
JW381 wrote:
I don't usually get too fanboy about this shit, but I just hate Reflex for the most part. I'd way rather it be similar to Alive...
I don't usually get too fanboy about this shit, but I just hate Reflex for the most part. I'd way rather it be similar to Alive. Better scale, more down to earth speeds, physics required cornering and braking. I dunno, just liked it a lot more.
This.

Alive was so close to being great, it's a shame that the higher ups didn't allow the game to be finished.

If Alive was refined and used a career format which forced you to race from local tracks as a beginner all the way to qualifying for LL's and earning a factory ride, I think it would finally earn thei top spot over Unleashed.
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12/22/2013 5:29am Edited Date/Time 12/25/2013 7:37am
If this game is anywhere close to Alive , i aint buying. Hopefully that new MXGP game delivers, so far i like what i see.

Give me REFLEX 2.
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12/22/2013 5:35am
And bring back Goblin Gulch ! dammit.
12/22/2013 5:48am Edited Date/Time 12/22/2013 5:51am
I've played mx pretty much all the games on every platform, and I think reflex was the best so far
alive is the turd in the punchbowl, rubbish tracks, shady handling and ruined what they had achieved in reflex, short course wtf, clutch boost bar, adding snow tracks....I think most people prefer a fun sim rather than another 'pure'

coming from the mcm days, downloadable tracks and real life replicas and a great online experience is what is required..... not too much polishing is required to the game engine of relfex
12/22/2013 8:23am
Do you guys believe that we are the target audience here, because I don't.

Are they trying to capture the razor thin core-moto market that wil buy the game regardless?
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12/22/2013 8:57am
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Do you guys believe that we are the target audience here, because I don't. Are they trying to capture the razor thin core-moto market that wil...
Do you guys believe that we are the target audience here, because I don't.

Are they trying to capture the razor thin core-moto market that wil buy the game regardless?
No, that's why Alive was fucked. Had the developers been able to make a true moto game it would been great. From what I've read their hands were tied by the marketing dept and the game ended up being a half finished POS.

We'll most likely never get what we actually want due to the small market but it's always nice to be able to cast your thoughts on what you think a great game would be like and hope for the best.
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12/22/2013 9:17am
I remember one time I was playing MX Unleashed online on PS2 and I played GuyB and talked to him a bit in the chat room! This was like 8 years ago... I used to play under TeamPeak92 haha
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12/22/2013 9:33am
Saying the market is to "small" to sell a game is an excuse developers scream when they completely fuck up a game in my opinion.
Greg Hasting had a tournament paintball game, and it sold very well back in the day because it was authentic. Tournament paintball is a smaller, niche market than MX proving that the people that buy video games will buy an authentic game, if the gameplay is good even if they don't participate.

If the developers make a great racing game, that innovates and is fun to play online it will receive good reviews and people will buy it.
The problem is they don't and they won't.
That's also why I don't like the fact they hired the old group to do the new game. They couldn't make a fun racing experience before that the masses or the minority market enjoyed, so why can they now? All IMO.
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12/22/2013 9:39am
Good news! Been playing all the mx games for the past 20 years.. Mcm2 online was the sauce. That was 1998 and we had windows live...
Good news! Been playing all the mx games for the past 20 years.. Mcm2 online was the sauce. That was 1998 and we had windows live game rooms and 100 of tracks to race online with. Tournaments, private rooms everything and chatting with others was simple. At that point I was like man cant imagine what the future holds since mcm2 was so good.
Unleashed was rad especially on the pc when they made the ep and sim/hybrid physics. But I gotta say Reflex on the pc is my favorite as far as the game play, I see people talking about crashing and sliding but if you would just put in some time to get used to it its great and by far my favorite physics. Reflex on the pc/steam now has a bunch of user made tracks like Daytona,seattle and some super bad ass freeride maps with like 6 tracks on them. I play online but its just too inconsistent to join rooms and not worth the time of waiting. Only thing that keeps mx games alive is user made tracks , bike graphics, gear ect.. Unleashed is still rolling online every few months I go on mcmfactory and see new tracks. It sure would be nice to have an option of using a flight stick Smile

Here is a link to some reflex tracks, some good some bad.
http://www.mxmaniacs.com/tracks.php?trackType=FreeRide&type=All&page=1
Hoss,

Are you still playing Unleashed online? I will say I do miss those days a little, it was fun playing, even though I didnt get to playing it until the tailend, though I did get to experience REV, which IMO is by far the best mx game I have ever played. For those that dont know it was Unleashed just re-done by a couple guys overseas.

The only thing I dont like about PC gaming, from my experience was it was hard to trust people because things could be modified. I was accused of cheating almost daily, I just thought of it as the best form of flattery, when you are so good people think you are cheating.
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12/22/2013 10:27am
It sounds like they want to bring the best of both worlds together from Reflex and Alive which should be great. There were things I loved and hated about both. If you even touched a rider/hay bale in Reflex then there was no way you were staying on your bike. Also someone could just spin doughnuts in the middle of the track and make it literally like the Himalayas. The great thing about Reflex was that there was no preload button. You had to hit your line just right or your entire rhythm was shot. Much more realistic than just pressing a preload button and having your rider shot up in the air.

Alive sucked for the goony rider and the different upgrade perks like clutch master and scrub master. The things that they did much better was the tracks breaking down during the race was much better, the physics of being able to actually rub a little with riders was better. I am very excited about the revival of this game and I literally can't wait to race people online again.
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12/22/2013 10:36am
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I hope its a lot more like Reflex than Alive, Alive was a joke. Everyone who was good stayed with reflex.... If you sucked and needed...
I hope its a lot more like Reflex than Alive, Alive was a joke. Everyone who was good stayed with reflex.... If you sucked and needed pavement like traction then Alive was for you.
Couldn't agree more. I played Reflex hardcore until Alive came out then switched to Simulator because Alive was so shitty. All my other moto game playing friends who could play worth a shit agree that Alive sucked horribly.
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12/22/2013 11:22am
Doesn't mean anything but chalk up another vote for making this game more like reflex. I bought Alive the day it came out and played it about 3 times and haven't touched it since. I was pissed when the reflex servers went down. There were only a few things I didn't like about reflex. First the whole thing about touching another rider and you go flying was lame. It seemed random too, sometimes you could slam a rider from the inside on a berm and you would be the one who went down. Second the scale was off. The Supercross stadiums were like two miles across. I still liked the game but it always bugged me. Secondly the match making for the PS3 multiplayer was garbage. I used to sit in the lobby for 15-20 minutes sometimes just to race 3 dudes. Lastly, give me real bikes and real tracks.
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12/22/2013 11:34am
Good news! Been playing all the mx games for the past 20 years.. Mcm2 online was the sauce. That was 1998 and we had windows live...
Good news! Been playing all the mx games for the past 20 years.. Mcm2 online was the sauce. That was 1998 and we had windows live game rooms and 100 of tracks to race online with. Tournaments, private rooms everything and chatting with others was simple. At that point I was like man cant imagine what the future holds since mcm2 was so good.
Unleashed was rad especially on the pc when they made the ep and sim/hybrid physics. But I gotta say Reflex on the pc is my favorite as far as the game play, I see people talking about crashing and sliding but if you would just put in some time to get used to it its great and by far my favorite physics. Reflex on the pc/steam now has a bunch of user made tracks like Daytona,seattle and some super bad ass freeride maps with like 6 tracks on them. I play online but its just too inconsistent to join rooms and not worth the time of waiting. Only thing that keeps mx games alive is user made tracks , bike graphics, gear ect.. Unleashed is still rolling online every few months I go on mcmfactory and see new tracks. It sure would be nice to have an option of using a flight stick Smile

Here is a link to some reflex tracks, some good some bad.
http://www.mxmaniacs.com/tracks.php?trackType=FreeRide&type=All&page=1
HOLD UP TIMEOUT...Reflex is on pc? and on steam? since when? and can you race online?

Ive been on the mx simulator wagon for about a year and a half now... Game kicks ass...


Im pretty excited and thankful that they are resurrecting this series. They need to drop all thought of using alives anything with the exception of stewarts house.

Alive sucked and i can give you over 25 reasons why i would not use that engine and or physics.

Reflex's engine (albiet the same as alives, I believe) Is superior, it just needs minor tweaking to stop the deflection that almost throws your rider off at weird times etc.. along with the weightless ness.

anyway, I cant wait to see what these guys drop!!!

Being somewhat of a pessimist, If the game is bad (Hopefully it isn't)- Just let peelout test it so he can say how good and great of a game it is.
12/22/2013 6:08pm
Seems like opinions are divided. Personally, I think Alive's James Stewart Compound is the best tracks/gaming MX experience in console gaming. The Compound's 2 SX tracks are very hard, tight and technical. This is what I am hoping from MX vs ATV Supercross. Love the JS7 tracks. The rest of Alive's tracks sucked but if MVA SX is like the JS7 SX tracks then I'll be extremely happy.

Love the realistic sized scale.
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12/22/2013 6:44pm
Seems like opinions are divided. Personally, I think Alive's James Stewart Compound is the best tracks/gaming MX experience in console gaming. The Compound's 2 SX tracks...
Seems like opinions are divided. Personally, I think Alive's James Stewart Compound is the best tracks/gaming MX experience in console gaming. The Compound's 2 SX tracks are very hard, tight and technical. This is what I am hoping from MX vs ATV Supercross. Love the JS7 tracks. The rest of Alive's tracks sucked but if MVA SX is like the JS7 SX tracks then I'll be extremely happy.

Love the realistic sized scale.
You are dead on about the JS7 tracks in Alive. That is the single best MX gaming experience. Alive has some really good things but there aremore things where they failed. The physics are good in Alive, the bike sounds are way better than Reflex, but there is a lack of content otherwise. The short tracks are a joke and the 2 SX tracks are way too short. But the SX tracks in Reflex are way too long! 2 minute lap times? They need to be around 50 secs.

To me the best game would feature the bike physics and sound in Alive but with the real 2014 SX track maps and 2014 National tracks with a real career mode and real life Pro riders.
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12/22/2013 7:31pm
The ultimate mx game would be physics like somewhere between alive and reflex. I personally liked alive better. It would need real tracks and riders and a track and skin editor. Also a place where people can chat like the old mcm gaming zone. To me this would be the perfect game.
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12/22/2013 7:32pm
If I could get an editor cor Reflex I would make reps again.

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