Saving The Endangered Privateer

Rupert X
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Edited Date/Time 8/28/2013 10:17am
All you have to do is read the rider's Twitter accounts to see how upset they are about the payouts at these Lucas Oil AMA Nationals, and, we shouldn't blame them, there does indeed NEED to be a SIGNIFICANT fix to these antiquated, "1986 level" compensatory offerings and, I have somewhat of a PLAN. Obviously, it won't please everyone, probably piss off a few, but this takes the burden off MX SPORTS ( THE " AMA"), the privateer racers, the teams AND, puts the burden squarely on OUR shoulders - the spectators.

Here's how it works, most of the races I attended this year were about $40 to get in - for the day, which, In my mind, is an incredible bargain for 8-10 hours of moto-action, party and digging your heroes, chilling with your buds.....

Anyway, I'd like to see it rai$ed by five (5) dollars at EVERY event, with ALL the increased proceeds/ revenue ( call it a TAX if you will) going DIRECTLY to the RIDERS PURSE. WITH SPECIAL consideration going to increase the money in the 20-40 placed positions. Figuring roughly at an estimated 20,000 fans " chipping" in an extra $5 per head - that would increase the purse by $100 grand ( 60 K to the 450s / 40 K to the 250's) at EACH ROUND.

Effectively RAISING the purse, over the course of the season, by 1.3 $ MILLION !

Many of you will state " THE FANS ARE ALREADY STRAPPED, they will never pay another $5 !" To which I say hogwash.

It's a negligible amount - (burger or beer) and any fans that would NOT go because of a minor increase would be negligible.

Anyway, that's my idea, hate it or love it, I'm desperate to find a solution to assist my fellow motocross racers, especially the young privateers. Cheers to all.

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8/26/2013 5:15pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2013 5:15pm
Heck il even throw 5 bucks/event over paypal to support the privateers. Just tell me your paypal acc.
Tim507
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8/26/2013 5:15pm
Great Idea!!!
flapper
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8/26/2013 5:18pm
Great idea and I'd gladly pay that to help put some more gas money into the pockets of non factory racers!

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8/26/2013 5:21pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2013 5:22pm
"Effectively RAISING the purse, over the course of the season, by 1.3 $ MILLION!"

Uhhhh, yeah... won't see any "abuse" with that kinda fundage will we!
sharkey
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8/26/2013 5:21pm
anyone would do that in a heartbeat. great idea. most people wouldn't even notice $5
Bigjimmyd
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8/26/2013 5:31pm
I'd gladly pay an extra $5, I think the promoter should match it as well from the ticket sales, or how about some of the $$ from the cost of parking? I think having to pay $30 to park in the parking lot is highway robbery! Part of that $$ should go to the pro purse as well! Lets get the guys paid to Race every week! They should be getting 500% more than what they are making now!
MR. X
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8/26/2013 5:36pm
Im sure the whole 5 dollars will find its way to the riders
Lonestar_399
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8/26/2013 5:41pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2013 5:44pm
The idea has the right heart, but just like government the money will be split up and most likely not go where you think/want it to go.

Personally, I would love to see attendance numbers and cull out the bottom and bring in better drawing locations. Cut bait with poor performers and find locations that spend more with their "entertainment" dollars. I know you need to find new blood and introduce new area's or rotate the schedule...all that business stuff, etc. but you need to support these riders with better purse money top down.

I think the prices are fair now so don't chase off the "meh" or curious supporters with higher cost. I don't wanna pay any more money for a ticket knowing it's probably not going to this noble effort.
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8/26/2013 5:43pm
I think it's a great idea and only if that money goes 100% to those riders without any service or handling fees.
RealityZ
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8/26/2013 5:45pm
Fill up the wagon, Im on board!

Ridiculous to top 20 a National and be in the hole..
Camp332
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8/26/2013 5:51pm
Rupert for Treasurer!
Rupert X
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8/26/2013 5:52pm
I greatly appreciate ALL the positive responses to my idea here, on Facebook and on TWitter.

If YOU are a current professional motocross racer here in the USA AND you see some merit in this plan,

I encourage you to forward it on - with enthusiasm. WITHOUT the knowledge, support and pressure by the

riders and we, THE spectators, NOBODY is going to voluntarily give you a raise. You HAVE to ask for it.

This is simply AN answer, perhaps not the best answer for everyone, but it never is.

This is simply a STEP. Saving The Endangered Privateer.
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8/26/2013 5:58pm
No way, The promoters would pocket it.

On the other hand, Great idea i think it would be awesome... and im totally up for it.

Paying 10.50$ for a damn beer, that doesn't even get me buzzed after one..... I'd much rather hand half that amount to a rider.
Motodave15
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8/26/2013 6:02pm
Ramrod wrote:
I think it's a great idea and only if that money goes 100% to those riders without any service or handling fees.
This, Thats what i hate! its pretty much the same damn thing ticketmaster does. service fee, convenience fees or any other bullshit way to line their pockets.
6-wheelz
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8/26/2013 6:02pm
I'd pay 5 bucks just to find a listing of the top 40 riders finish to the season instead of the top 25!
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8/26/2013 6:05pm
Rupert X wrote:
I greatly appreciate ALL the positive responses to my idea here, on Facebook and on TWitter. If YOU are a current professional motocross racer here in...
I greatly appreciate ALL the positive responses to my idea here, on Facebook and on TWitter.

If YOU are a current professional motocross racer here in the USA AND you see some merit in this plan,

I encourage you to forward it on - with enthusiasm. WITHOUT the knowledge, support and pressure by the

riders and we, THE spectators, NOBODY is going to voluntarily give you a raise. You HAVE to ask for it.

This is simply AN answer, perhaps not the best answer for everyone, but it never is.

This is simply a STEP. Saving The Endangered Privateer.
Think you can get Gibby on board especially with who's in the photo here in the background, just sayin!! Great idea Rup with tons of merit, hope it comes to fruition for these guys, been there done that!!
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8/26/2013 6:21pm
Awesome idea Rup!

Now......is there a way to actually keep track of actual " Ticket sales ".....so that extra $5.00 makes it to the privateer purse?

FWIW......I really , really hope that DC chimes in on this. I think it's an awesome idea!
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8/26/2013 6:24pm
I too have been thinking about this ever since Peick posted his purse money from the Utah national. It really is a sham where professional racing is with paying the show. I like this idea because it takes fan money supporting the nationals at each event and puts a dollar amount everyone knows about directly into the pocket of the privateers.

Here's where I find a problem. From a business standpoint, if they could raise the price and know people would still come, why would they essentially give it away without taking anything of the top first? Many fans would like to give to privateers, like me, and I would have gladly contributed $20 to privateers having attended Southwick and Unadilla this year with my wife. There would be some people who wouldn't like it though. And realistically, I think if they could have or wanted to up the payout they would have by now. They wouldn't need vital members for such an idea.

I've been thinking about some kind of not for profit organization that collects donations from willing fans and businesses. That way, no one makes any extra money off the top, and we can be sure 100% minus processing fees goes directly to the riders. That is what I've been thinking about the past few days. Not sure if it would work either, but just an idea I had about this issue.
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8/26/2013 6:34pm
Nonprofit organization to collect and disperse the earnings based on race overall from the official result standing.
I feel that 40th place should at least get their entry fee back.
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8/26/2013 6:42pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2013 6:43pm
actually this wouldn't be that hard to do. Rupe has it just about right.

what has to happen here is each promoter will technically be paying a higher fee to host the mxsports race. Mxsports needs to raise the payout 20th-40th by the exact same amount. It would be nice to mix in a rainout clause for the series where all promoters have to contribute to the cause in an instance where there is a rainout or some other event that kills their attendance that is out of their control. kinda ala nfl football teams or hockey. the big market tracks help out the smaller venues.

for all we know maybe this is where DC is going..hence newer venues, never know.
8/26/2013 6:46pm
all damn good ideas.....hopefully someone can / will implement these or similar ideas into a reality.....
8/26/2013 6:48pm
$5 isn't bad until you add $5 for the wife 2 kids and the sons best friend who tagged along now you are looking at $25 that can break some people. How about $5 per ticket order or group of tickets bought at the gate.
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8/26/2013 6:48pm
Bring back the origional WWR program where they gave the privateer the entrance fee back.
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8/26/2013 6:49pm
Great idea BUT isn't the payout approximately the same as it was when the price of a ticket was $20? Raise the ticket prices and unfortunately it's not going to go to the privateers Sad
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8/26/2013 6:57pm
motoBRD wrote:
I too have been thinking about this ever since Peick posted his purse money from the Utah national. It really is a sham where professional racing...
I too have been thinking about this ever since Peick posted his purse money from the Utah national. It really is a sham where professional racing is with paying the show. I like this idea because it takes fan money supporting the nationals at each event and puts a dollar amount everyone knows about directly into the pocket of the privateers.

Here's where I find a problem. From a business standpoint, if they could raise the price and know people would still come, why would they essentially give it away without taking anything of the top first? Many fans would like to give to privateers, like me, and I would have gladly contributed $20 to privateers having attended Southwick and Unadilla this year with my wife. There would be some people who wouldn't like it though. And realistically, I think if they could have or wanted to up the payout they would have by now. They wouldn't need vital members for such an idea.

I've been thinking about some kind of not for profit organization that collects donations from willing fans and businesses. That way, no one makes any extra money off the top, and we can be sure 100% minus processing fees goes directly to the riders. That is what I've been thinking about the past few days. Not sure if it would work either, but just an idea I had about this issue.
Where was Weston's purse money posted? I'm interested, thanks.
motoBRD
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8/26/2013 7:05pm
I think he posted it on Twitter. I saw it retweeted there at least. $1,300 I believe for 4th overall. He talked about low payout being the reason he didn't race the whole mx season.
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8/26/2013 7:14pm
motoBRD wrote:
I think he posted it on Twitter. I saw it retweeted there at least. $1,300 I believe for 4th overall. He talked about low payout being...
I think he posted it on Twitter. I saw it retweeted there at least. $1,300 I believe for 4th overall. He talked about low payout being the reason he didn't race the whole mx season.
contingency for his gear, goggles, oil, tires, bikes, filters is where they make the money. I'm curious what that total was for the whole day/position.
8/26/2013 8:17pm Edited Date/Time 8/26/2013 8:20pm
Watch and learn from #10 in the MX2 class at the final round of CMRC. Get that bike legal south of the border and the "endangered privateer" won't be so "endangered"

Not to take away from the shit pay discussed above.

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8/26/2013 9:10pm
THEY SHOULD DO A DASH FOR CASH 1 or 2 laps winner takes all but only for true privateers how cool would this be

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