Where were ALL the (now) defunct AMA MX Nat's ?

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3/24/2006 8:41am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 5:58pm
there was one in like 74 or 75 here in east tennessee.A place called "hillbilly world" if I recall.It rained like hell,2 guys died in the pits while riding WFO,hit head on.The race was cancelled.
3/30/2006 4:25pm
Was the track in Missouri at a town called Agency? Agency is south and east of St Joe. I think it was still open until a few years ago.
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3/30/2006 4:52pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 5:58pm
[quote="ktm boy 137":4272f]

I think that might be the one![/quote:4272f]That is the one.
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Allentown,PA aka Fogelsville...was closed shortly after the national & is basically developed over though I heard bits of the track are still recognizable...

Mexico,NY - is still running district races & is very much the same as when it was a National...we used to have a vintage race there but lack of numbers & rising operating costs stifled that...helluva fun track to ride on a vintage bike it was...

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4/1/2006 4:24am
Anybody remember Appalachia Lake, WV?

That one was before Keysers Ridge, MD or High Point.

Saw Gary Jones win a race or 2 there in the 250 class.
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[quote="500 Mike":d11c5]Anybody remember Appalachia Lake, WV?

That one was before Keysers Ridge, MD or High Point.

Saw Gary Jones win a race or 2 there in the 250 class.[/quote:d11c5]Is Keysers Ridge still there? I raced a 125 National there in 1976. That is some pretty country around there.
4/6/2006 12:06am
I think by the time they ran a national at Escape Country it had been renamed Racing World.

The national I went to there was too cool. A cool, cloudy Spring day (with rain earlier in the week), and ribbons marking a course on a hillside that was covered in three-foot tall grass.
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[quote="guyb":100d9]I think by the time they ran a national at Escape Country it had been renamed Racing World.

The national I went to there was too cool. A cool, cloudy Spring day (with rain earlier in the week), and ribbons marking a course on a hillside that was covered in three-foot tall grass.[/quote:100d9]That was 1978. I was there too. It was like being in Europe with that tall grass and Bob Hannah was on his way to winning 22 motos in a row. Remember Gaylon Mosier being the first guy out in practice on that 125 Kawasaki?
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Thats it, That 250 of Hannah's sounded so torquey. I think Ward was leading the 125's for a while that day.
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8/20/2008 6:48pm
this thread should be in the hall of fame
8/20/2008 7:37pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:07pm
LAKE WHITNEY CYCLE RANCH in Texas. hosted both Nationals and Trans-AMA's.

Strawberry Hill MX in Dallas had a National in early 73'.
8/20/2008 7:40pm
" Don't forget Plano, TX. Rabbit Run was the name of the joint."

Rabbit Run had x2 Trans-AMA's (76' and 77'), but I don't believe they ever hosted a National
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8/20/2008 11:47pm
ninety3 wrote:
[quote="az2u":e710f]Hollister Hills?[/quote:e710f]
They had a GP, but don't remember if they held a National ?

Dug that track though.
Hollister had a national back in 86.
8/21/2008 4:50am
ninety3 wrote:
78' AMA National at Racing World, it looked a lot like this... [img:259f6]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/Racer-X93/bh-4.jpg[/img:259f6] [img:259f6]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/Racer-X93/bh-3.jpg[/img:259f6] [img:259f6]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/Racer-X93/jw-1.jpg[/img:259f6] [img:259f6]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/Racer-X93/jw-2.jpg[/img:259f6] [img:259f6]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b320/Racer-X93/bh-2.jpg[/img:259f6]
I was at that National 2 and what I remember most was after the races almost all the racers was limpimg with twisted ankles, it rained alot during the week before the race and was rutted pretty good especially in the low parts of the track and would grab the racers ankles.
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8/21/2008 5:51am
I live 5 miles from the old CDR Tech track in Castle Rock, Colorado (where RJ lost the 82' 250 title to Hansen when his front wheel exploded on a huge downhillll jump)

The place was a Drag Strip and MX track for a few years until in 1984 someone was killed on the MX track, and then within a month or so later, someone was killed on the Drag Strip!, A friend of mine owns the land that it use to be on, and I'm thinking sometime this weekend, I will go over and get a pic of the downhill jump (now all washed out and dry rutted) where RJ busted his front wheel.) You can see the downhill jump from I-25 just south of Castle Rock, and I drive by it many times while at work as a meter reader, I just stare at it, it's a peice of History. It's one of the only places in Castle Rock that still has not had any housing or zoning done to it, so it still looks kinda ghostly!

I will try to post a pic of it over the weekend( im a little computer illiterate) if I can get a friend to help me. It realy is a site to see
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8/22/2008 5:32am
RMT wrote:
Cycle World, St. Charles MO. What was the track is now a boat dealer and an open field. No nationals, just some Trans Ams. One national...
Cycle World, St. Charles MO. What was the track is now a boat dealer and an open field. No nationals, just some Trans Ams.

One national in 82 I believe at St. Louis International Raceway in Fairmont City Il. The track is now called Gateway Intl. Raceway and the MX track is covered by a NHRA dragstrip.
I went to a Trans-Am at St. Charles in '72, Lots of sand as I recall.
8/22/2008 11:46am
Omaha Nebraska had a national but I dont remember the name of the track.
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8/22/2008 10:58pm
T-BOND wrote:
[quote="guyb":100d9]I think by the time they ran a national at Escape Country it had been renamed Racing World. The national I went to there was too...
[quote="guyb":100d9]I think by the time they ran a national at Escape Country it had been renamed Racing World.

The national I went to there was too cool. A cool, cloudy Spring day (with rain earlier in the week), and ribbons marking a course on a hillside that was covered in three-foot tall grass.[/quote:100d9]That was 1978. I was there too. It was like being in Europe with that tall grass and Bob Hannah was on his way to winning 22 motos in a row. Remember Gaylon Mosier being the first guy out in practice on that 125 Kawasaki?
My first national I went to Gaylon was first out on the track watching him go up a big hill on virgin grass on that works 125 kawasaki was awsome!.
8/23/2008 7:32am
lostboy819 wrote:
Omaha Nebraska had a national but I dont remember the name of the track.
Race headquarters was in Omaha but the track was in a corn field in Herman, Nebraska.
I was there for the 1978 National, and believe it was the last there.
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8/23/2008 4:17pm
I qualified for my first 250 National main event at Herman, Nebraska (click here) in 1977.

It remains my second favorite track of all time.

My favorite of all time?

Unadilla.

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8/24/2008 12:37pm Edited Date/Time 8/24/2008 12:38pm
In 1983 there was a 125/500 national held in st. louis. I remember Magoo riding that CR 500 or maybe it was a 450 at the time like it was a 125. I have never seen anyone ride a 500 like Magoo could.
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8/24/2008 1:46pm
Hey xnationalwrench,

I see you posted about the 78' AMA National at Racing World.

I remember the rain before the event. Do you remember the motor homes and vans getting stuck going up the long driveway to the track?

It was so bad that I missed my qualifier at that event stuck in a ditch at the bottom of the hill going in!
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8/24/2008 9:34pm
Not a Nat'l, but Carnegie Trans-AMA......like '74, '75?....DeCosters steering head and whole front end went one way......rest another....

Sears had huge up/downhills...seems like many good tracks that are gone had those huge up/downhill elevation changes.

TG....don't remember Hollister havin' a National in '86 or I would've been there. Sure it wasn't a 250 GP? Know they had both 250 and 500 GPs there. '89 last yr they had a 500 GP.
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andymoto wrote:
Not a Nat'l, but Carnegie Trans-AMA......like '74, '75?....DeCosters steering head and whole front end went one way......rest another.... Sears had huge up/downhills...seems like many good tracks...
Not a Nat'l, but Carnegie Trans-AMA......like '74, '75?....DeCosters steering head and whole front end went one way......rest another....

Sears had huge up/downhills...seems like many good tracks that are gone had those huge up/downhill elevation changes.

TG....don't remember Hollister havin' a National in '86 or I would've been there. Sure it wasn't a 250 GP? Know they had both 250 and 500 GPs there. '89 last yr they had a 500 GP.
andy - it was definitely a 125/500 National in 1986. Bailey won 500s and Eddie Warren won 125s. Also went to the 250 USGP in 87 and a 500 USGP in 1988. Was there a USGP there in 89 too ?

The DeCoster crash at Livermore - I think it was his triple clamp that gave out off a big jump at high speed. He's lucky he only got cut up.

I miss the old Sears Point too. That was a great track they had there.
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8/24/2008 11:56pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:10pm
Thought the whole steering stem tore outta frame...? Stem, clamps, forks, wheel; whole nine yards....? Remember Bimbo haulin' serious ass...

Yeah had in '89....I know is Houtermans called me knowing I had a KX500 and Jo Martens raced it. Got like 8-10 o/a...JoJo was a really nice guy. Kees VanderVen BD...like after race, didn't give a shit and popped out the brews with some cake....funny how laid back they all were those euros.

I would've sworn that Prarie and Hollister never had Nationals during the same year being so close to each other...maybe lost Saddleback the yr before. Sounds like same yr. when Hangtown ran 125/250s....Local Kelly Andris ran 3rd for a good while and Bailey couldn't pass him until his chain derailed or some bike failure.

I'm sure you must be right.....just don't ever remember a Nat then at Hollister unless my work pulled an okie-doke and had to work that day......

Sears with those HUGE up and downhills.....Pretty technical track.
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I have been racing since the early 70's. Raced twice last year at St. Pete (Sunshine race way) with the Florida vintage MX club (FLVMX.com). The track is new but it is in the same general location of the old national track where Kenny Keylon won his national for team Honda (Florida Boy). They also have a mini MX track that part of it runs indoors in a large metal building the part is run outside. If you still ride in Fla and have some older bikes check out the vintage club membership keeps growing every year. FLVMX.com.
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Some of Escape Country (Racing World) track is still there, but it's completely surrounded/consumed by housing developments all around. I think that section of track in the Hannah pic is one of the few sections that is undeveloped.
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andymoto wrote:
Thought the whole steering stem tore outta frame...? Stem, clamps, forks, wheel; whole nine yards....? Remember Bimbo haulin' serious ass... Yeah had in '89....I know is...
Thought the whole steering stem tore outta frame...? Stem, clamps, forks, wheel; whole nine yards....? Remember Bimbo haulin' serious ass...

Yeah had in '89....I know is Houtermans called me knowing I had a KX500 and Jo Martens raced it. Got like 8-10 o/a...JoJo was a really nice guy. Kees VanderVen BD...like after race, didn't give a shit and popped out the brews with some cake....funny how laid back they all were those euros.

I would've sworn that Prarie and Hollister never had Nationals during the same year being so close to each other...maybe lost Saddleback the yr before. Sounds like same yr. when Hangtown ran 125/250s....Local Kelly Andris ran 3rd for a good while and Bailey couldn't pass him until his chain derailed or some bike failure.

I'm sure you must be right.....just don't ever remember a Nat then at Hollister unless my work pulled an okie-doke and had to work that day......

Sears with those HUGE up and downhills.....Pretty technical track.
Martens raced your own personal bike ? Cool story. I missed the USGP that year.

I think there might have been a Trans USA race at Hollister too back in the early 80's.

Remember back in 79 and 80, Sears Point had Nationals there along with Hangtown ? We literally had races coming out our ears back then. Oakland Super X, Hangtown, Sears national & Trans AMA/USA all in the same year. Great times for Nor Cal MX fans. I especially liked going to Sears Point because it was only about a 20 minute drive from my house.
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9/8/2008 9:01am
Agency was the track by St Joe Missouri. I lived about 3 miles from it. The new track by St Joe is not Agency.

I rode at Herman Nebraska once and it was a great track, but I loved the track in Denton Nebraska. I broke my RM80 every time I raced there. It was rough.

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