Seat Bounce

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Edited Date/Time 9/18/2013 6:56pm
People are still hanging on to this idea that the spring BOUNCES you into the air when you seat-bounce.

Will Ryan Dungey be at a disadvantage tomorrow night since, if that's true, seat-bouncing will be impossible, along with tabletop on-off sections?
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patrickadizzle 1/4/2013 4:24pm
1/4/2013 4:24pm Edited Date/Time 1/4/2013 4:25pm
He wouldn't use it if it was a disadvantage. He would have noticed that testing it.

My prediction is Ryan will still be smooth as butter (per usual) with an added hint of 'aggressiveness' this A1. Wild right? Cool
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125 1/4/2013 4:26pm
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patrickadizzle wrote:
He wouldn't use it if it was a disadvantage. He would have noticed that testing it. My prediction is Ryan will still be smooth as butter...
He wouldn't use it if it was a disadvantage. He would have noticed that testing it.

My prediction is Ryan will still be smooth as butter (per usual) with an added hint of 'aggressiveness' this A1. Wild right? Cool
His post was a bit of an inside joke/fishing attempt. Don't take the bait.
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Nerd 1/4/2013 4:26pm
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STFU noob!

Smile

The veterans here know what this is about...

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Nerd 1/4/2013 4:27pm
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patrickadizzle wrote:
He wouldn't use it if it was a disadvantage. He would have noticed that testing it. My prediction is Ryan will still be smooth as butter...
He wouldn't use it if it was a disadvantage. He would have noticed that testing it.

My prediction is Ryan will still be smooth as butter (per usual) with an added hint of 'aggressiveness' this A1. Wild right? Cool
125 wrote:
His post was a bit of an inside joke/fishing attempt. Don't take the bait.
It's a joke, to an extent, but where are these spring-lovers? They have to admit they're wrong now...
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USA_Rider_ 1/4/2013 4:30pm
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Better check with the fat rocket scientist, I forget his name......
TripleFive 1/4/2013 4:30pm
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Nerd wrote:
It's a joke, to an extent, but where are these spring-lovers? They have to admit they're wrong now...
Wouldn't compressed air provide the same effect? Like pressing on a balloon?
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jhansen510 1/4/2013 4:30pm
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Can you please explain a seatbounce and how it helps them get over obstacles....
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Come on, WN-we've had a few weeks off and you post this crap the night before A1?

How in the Hell will we have enough time to get this thread over 10 pages before we need to switch over to how badly RD/RV/JS7/CR/KW/ performed and help critique their techniques? There are only so many hours in a day.
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Camp332 1/4/2013 4:32pm
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What is this bounce of the seat you speaketh?
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motosmith 1/4/2013 4:34pm
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Nerd wrote:
People are still hanging on to this idea that the spring BOUNCES you into the air when you seat-bounce. Will Ryan Dungey be at a disadvantage...
People are still hanging on to this idea that the spring BOUNCES you into the air when you seat-bounce.

Will Ryan Dungey be at a disadvantage tomorrow night since, if that's true, seat-bouncing will be impossible, along with tabletop on-off sections?
Silly goose. You know you can achieve the same action without actually having a spring.
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Nerd 1/4/2013 4:39pm
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jhansen510 wrote:
Can you please explain a seatbounce and how it helps them get over obstacles....
It's an issue if CG. By sitting, you lower your center of gravity, and you apply throttle throughout the transition until you're in the air. The throttle further compresses the suspension with inertia, and that lowers the CG even more.

The lower the CG, the more direction-changing potential you get out of the jump.

Hit a 3' jump while standing and you can soak most of it up between the suspension and your legs. Seat-bounce it and you come off the face of the jump at an angle much closer to the degree of incline of the jump.

That, plus the acceleration adding energy off the lip, shoot you more upward than outward.
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Cigaro 1/4/2013 4:41pm
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Nerd wrote:
STFU noob!

Smile

The veterans here know what this is about...
My guess would be he's no noob. Prolly his 6th account....


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TFS said than you can seat bounce a BMX bike.
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Dungey's bike will have a spring, even if it isn't coiled metal....
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Grieby54 1/4/2013 4:57pm
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You're an idiot... center of gravity? Really? Unless that's part of the inside joke.

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slipdog 1/4/2013 4:58pm
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vet323 wrote:
Come on, WN-we've had a few weeks off and you post this crap the night before A1? How in the Hell will we have enough time...
Come on, WN-we've had a few weeks off and you post this crap the night before A1?

How in the Hell will we have enough time to get this thread over 10 pages before we need to switch over to how badly RD/RV/JS7/CR/KW/ performed and help critique their techniques? There are only so many hours in a day.
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Hood-z 1/4/2013 4:59pm
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Nerd wrote:
People are still hanging on to this idea that the spring BOUNCES you into the air when you seat-bounce. Will Ryan Dungey be at a disadvantage...
People are still hanging on to this idea that the spring BOUNCES you into the air when you seat-bounce.

Will Ryan Dungey be at a disadvantage tomorrow night since, if that's true, seat-bouncing will be impossible, along with tabletop on-off sections?
I get it! Classic 2004-5 ish!
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jhansen510 wrote:
Can you please explain a seatbounce and how it helps them get over obstacles....
Nerd wrote:
It's an issue if CG. By sitting, you lower your center of gravity, and you apply throttle throughout the transition until you're in the air. The...
It's an issue if CG. By sitting, you lower your center of gravity, and you apply throttle throughout the transition until you're in the air. The throttle further compresses the suspension with inertia, and that lowers the CG even more.

The lower the CG, the more direction-changing potential you get out of the jump.

Hit a 3' jump while standing and you can soak most of it up between the suspension and your legs. Seat-bounce it and you come off the face of the jump at an angle much closer to the degree of incline of the jump.

That, plus the acceleration adding energy off the lip, shoot you more upward than outward.
Good explanation.

One way I think of it is similar to pulling up on the handlebars. On a bicycle, this is pretty easy to do going off a jump, but not so much on a motorcycle. It's pretty much does the same thing as pulling up on the bars by getting the front end high, but just in a different way since humans don't have gorilla strength lol.

Anyone remember the myth of Stewart locking up his front brakes in order to perform the Bubba Scrub?
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Nerd 1/4/2013 5:14pm
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Grieby54 wrote:
You're an idiot... center of gravity? Really? Unless that's part of the inside joke.
I love it.

That's not a joke.
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[img]http://99gifs.com/-img/504d6284afa96f4b320009ac.gif[/img]
Mad skills. Wonder how many times he had to try before he landed it?
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If it was the spring could you imagine how the bike would handle around the rest of the track? A hard landing that bottomed the rear shock would pitch the rider over the bars. Whoops would be very interesting.
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Nerd 1/4/2013 6:33pm
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
If it was the spring could you imagine how the bike would handle around the rest of the track? A hard landing that bottomed the rear...
If it was the spring could you imagine how the bike would handle around the rest of the track? A hard landing that bottomed the rear shock would pitch the rider over the bars. Whoops would be very interesting.
EXACTLY.
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I just wanna know if you can use strobes on an airplane while its on a treadmill ?
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peelout wrote:
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CnCRacing wrote:
Mad skills. Wonder how many times he had to try before he landed it?
Probably not a lot. This guy is uber talented:

http://youtu.be/Cj6ho1-G6tw
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Wow... checking in and it's Nurd / 2007 all over again....

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