Car AI

Yeah it’s a dumb option if you’re not paying attention. But, also a good option if you’re not paying attention and some assholes in front of you going way slower. It’s simple to turn off. Pay enough attention ride the persons ass. Get them the hell out of the way…. The good ol days. 

I like the way you think😂

 Also, AI aside, rumor has it that a lot of BMWs actually have turn signals much to the surprise of their owners.

What looney source did you get that from?

Turn signals....who needs em...

More stuff to break that the average guy can't fix.

I watched a South Main Auto channel on Youtube the other day and the guys KIA van basically wouldn't work because of the back up camera. He unplugged it and the car worked fine after. He said that everything is wired together and if one sensor or electrical thing ma jiggy isn't working the whole car wont work.

Here's the video if you want to watch it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyLaItZHdqo

The rant starts at the 11:14 minute mark if you want to listen to it. 

I watched them put a Tesla on a roll-back.

No idea what was wrong with it, but apparently what ever it was kept the brakes all locked.

4 wheel squeal all the way up the ramp.

When I rent a car to see family who live out of town, my first order of business is try and figure out how to turn all that automatic stuff off.  Drives me crazy.  I want to drive the car, not have it drive for me.  Sheesh, this world is getting crazier by the day.

Most of it is federally mandated. Back up camera, lane keep assist, adaptive cruise, blind spot radar - the whole 9, even the "base" cars come with it now, it cant be optioned off the car. Some anti-genius's in our government are even trying to mandate automatic drunk driving detection on every new car sold in America. A lot of this "technology" is a good 10 years old at this point. Instead of holding the operator of the vehicle accountable for their poor actions behind the wheel - the automakers are being tasked (and litigated against in court) to make the cars more "idiot proof". 

There must be some lobbying pressure somewhere for these regulations, be it the insurance industry, car manufacturers, lawyers, environmentalists...to have all this shit put on cars because i sure as shit don't want it on my car and I'm sick to my stomach that I have to pay for it.

Windshield calibrations, radar calibrations, all of this is pure nonsense. Lets say you were a tech for a big auto company with a large "H" for a logo - the original caibration procedures involved masking tape, a chalk line, a plumb bob, a measuring tape, and a small metal triangle secured to a white piece of pvc pipe, and building yourself an imaginary 'box' infront of the car. Luckily, we've came a long way in the last 10 years - but its still a dogshit time to be a mechanic. 

Is anyone else recognizing the correlation between this thread and the “ItS tHeIr CuLtUrE (Americans)” thread? 
As Spurdo said a lot of these bullshit things are federally mandated. They are literally making it impossible, if not illegal to take full responsibility for oneself. 

The connection is clear and it reaches into every aspect of life. The old saying “of you don’t use it, you loose it” applies here. 
 

There are a lot of morans out there yes, but the crux which all idiocy is borne upon is the all pervasive governments of the world.  

This system with its monopolies and oligarchies controlling government through lobbyists. This system with such massive proportions of the economy consolidated into the hands of very few of course will lead to this very world we live in. And it’s very real problems we face as a result.

The systems ability and success at nurturing so many to think in such a compartmentalized manner is really the key. There are so many idiots in the world but more often then not, not because they are stupid. They’ve just had all the common sense wrung out of them. They cant see the relationships between things. It’s very similar to people that can read individual words just fine, but they can’t actually comprehend. 

As long as you can turn it off, I love that stuff, especially if you can set the distance behind the car in front of you. There are stretches of freeway driving that I’d just rather ‘set it and forget it’, and it isn’t that hard to keep an eye on your speed to see if you are going very much below your target speed. 

I wouldn’t want it if you couldn’t turn it off, though. 

I’m not as much of a fan of the ‘lane keeper’ feature, though. Our newest vehicle is a 2022 and it really feels too vague to trust. Maybe the newest systems are quite a bit better but I think I’d have a hard time adapting to a self driving car. 

None of that stuff is really “AI” though, it’s all just pretty simple sensors. 

Carry on. 

Have a snickers bud.

I only eat cheese  

I rented a car with all of that, it was fighting me to run through puddles and pot holes.. If mx taught me anything, it's line selection, I don't need help! Haha

I'll chime in on this....

My new Frontier is fully loaded.  It's got that cruise control distance feature.  You can turn it off.       It's also got all sorts of nanny electronics.   I pride myself in being one of those drivers that is focused on the task at hand.  I'm very aware of what is going on around me.   That said, it's not a bad thing to have some of these features to AUGMENT good driving behavior.

Lane departure (can disable)  - I disabled it, it's annoying.

Blind spot warning (can disable) -  I actually like this feature .

Emergency braking/collision warning - (can disable) - Not a bad feature to have

Pedestrian warning feature -  great for backing up....how  many kids have been run over because you can't see behind the car.

360 camera/backup camera - nice features

High beam auto mode - turns brights on or off depending on conditions. (can disable) - I can see where this is a good feature out on the open road, but in town it sucks. 

Speed limit sign reader -  this is kind of a nice feature to have,

Now....I also own a 23 year old BMW which is my fun car, the only nanny electronics in it are DSC and anti-lock brakes...and the DSC can be disabled.      I find that when I get back in this car, I had begun to rely somewhat on the safety features that the Frontier has.     It takes me a second to go back to  "I'm 100% responsible for safety" mode.       That said, I can see where all this new technology is making people LESS observant and reliant on an algorithm.    Not good.

My wife has a GMC with lane departure warnings and auto braking. The auto braking almost caused an accident when I was driving it.

Driver "assist" functions are dumbest idea ever. Let the car be 100% self driving for all the sheeple, and let it be 100% self-drive for people like us, who can control our automobiles.

It’s funny, but, sometimes my Fords remind me of the active threat systems in a fighter…they’ve got the same “Incoming!” type warning telling you that a threat is imminent...and it’s funny as hell; because, I’ve got the auto avoidance crap turned off…but, the system still has the flashing visual warnings that are almost comical. 

 

So while in a rented car last week, a VW SUV I believe. The steering wheel was auto correcting I believe. I did a hands off test. The car stayed in the lane on its own. It also told me to put my hands back on the steering wheel. Electronic steering systems tied to the computer at its best. 

That steering wheel auto correct is not the boss of you. Take a stance and reclaim your dominance.

I drove a vehicle with steering correction and it was very off-putting. You could clearly overcome it, but the system would fight you just a little. It was enough to make it dangerous when cornering; if you are near the limit or need a little bit of the shoulder to trim up your line, just a bit of the wrong correction can start an avalanche of problems. 

I just read that there's a new law here in CA that makes it illegal to override or defeat those systems. One more reason to leave.

Holy crap that’s scary😳

I see lawsuits coming out the ass when people start dying from this lovely "feature".

I assume you can over ride the system when approaching an "oversize" load on a two lane highway.  Not sure I would like the "auto" fighting me on that.  

Personally, I can’t stand all the automated sensors on new vehicles. 

Pretty soon no one will know how to drive. 

The double edged sword is maybe that’s a good thing, I hate to say it, as most people on the road are on their phones anyway. The number of terrible drivers today are frightening - considering it’s the most dangerous activity we do everyday.