Tariffs on Canada

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STVMCQN wrote:
918 Billion Dollar Trade Deficit in 2024. We need to tariff every single item that comes in to our country. China needs to be cut off...

918 Billion Dollar Trade Deficit in 2024. We need to tariff every single item that comes in to our country. China needs to be cut off 100%. 

We had a 63 Billion Dollar Trade Deficit with Canada in 2024. Do those numbers seem quite right? I’m no Professor of Economics.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to clog the party with insignificant facts and trivia.

 

I understand how this can strengthen home economy, but higher independence will come with a high price tag. If you personally can afford that and are willing to bear the cost, good for you. But what about those people already struggling with cost of living?

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eins4eins wrote:
I understand how this can strengthen home economy, but higher independence will come with a high price tag. If you personally can afford that and are...

I understand how this can strengthen home economy, but higher independence will come with a high price tag. If you personally can afford that and are willing to bear the cost, good for you. But what about those people already struggling with cost of living?

this is what i dont really get,  the long term plan to get more built in the USA has its merits,  but things are going to have to cost more,  the reason they went off shore is they cost less, and american companies made more money by shipping them in, 

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How can the US put Tariffs on a US State?

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Starting to think that is Donald’s plan. 

STVMCQN wrote:

States 51-56.

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Canada doesn’t build anything. The deficit is all raw materials/1st stage transformation/energy. 


Some of it not replaceable locally in the US. 

it’s just another form of tax on people. One with ambitions of more domestic production of goods.  

 

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Snail wrote:
Canada doesn’t build anything. The deficit is all raw materials/1st stage transformation/energy. Some of it not replaceable locally in the US. it’s just another form of tax on...

Canada doesn’t build anything. The deficit is all raw materials/1st stage transformation/energy. 


Some of it not replaceable locally in the US. 

it’s just another form of tax on people. One with ambitions of more domestic production of goods.  

 

85% of cars made in Canada are exported to the US.

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STVMCQN wrote:

171 Billion Dollar Trade Deficit with Mexico. We can’t be the World’s Police anymore and we can’t afford to support Canada and Mexico either.

Pretty sure no one is forcing us to. The US doesn’t do anything that is not in its own interests. We like cheap shit and are greedy. Let’s see how much pain we will put up with and austerity measures initiated by billionaire oligarchs before we revolt. 

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Canada doesn’t build anything. The deficit is all raw materials/1st stage transformation/energy. Some of it not replaceable locally in the US. it’s just another form of tax on...

Canada doesn’t build anything. The deficit is all raw materials/1st stage transformation/energy. 


Some of it not replaceable locally in the US. 

it’s just another form of tax on people. One with ambitions of more domestic production of goods.  

 

85% of cars made in Canada are exported to the US.

true. 
Stats. 

Canada 

376,890 passenger cars, 1,159,000 light commercial vehicles, and 17,530 heavy trucks.


USA. . In 2023, almost 10.6 million motor vehicles were produced in the United States. Globally, there were around 93.5 million motor vehicles produced in the same year
 

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On the heavy oil deal. We constantly talk about it here. It's not an easy task to change over your refineries to use light oil instead...

On the heavy oil deal. We constantly talk about it here. It's not an easy task to change over your refineries to use light oil instead. A large % of yours are fitted for heavy crude. Its years of work and 100s of billions. Your oil fields are productive but when oil drops to 50$  or less per barrel you guys shut down huge #s of rigs. 60 or higher your fine but still well short of what you need to be self sufficient.  Its a tricky thing.Fuck Canada uses 2 million barrels per day. Alberta produces 5 million ish alone. But we still import! Way to complicated for my grade 9 education.

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So what are you going to do with all that oil, maple syrup, and hockey players, when the U.S. stops buying it?

They’ll sell it somewhere else. 

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Anyone here feel this is a good thing? As a Canadian its very concerning. On the surface it appears to be a shitty deal for consumers...

Anyone here feel this is a good thing? As a Canadian its very concerning. On the surface it appears to be a shitty deal for consumers on both sides of the border. Im sure there are some Google economists on here with an opinion.3 things to keep in mind. The American importer pays the tax. Canada has retalitated with our own tarrifs. Canada is your number 1 customer. That's right -the  US sells more goods to us then any other country. 

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I'm not actually pissed at the Americans. I'm pissed at our disaster of a federal government for getting us into this fucking mess in the first...

I'm not actually pissed at the Americans. I'm pissed at our disaster of a federal government for getting us into this fucking mess in the first place. 

Exactly! As an American I would say the same thing. It’s our government’s that have fucked this all up. I don’t hate the people from other countries, but I do hate their governments, just as I hate my own. 

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this is what i dont really get,  the long term plan to get more built in the USA has its merits,  but things are going to...

this is what i dont really get,  the long term plan to get more built in the USA has its merits,  but things are going to have to cost more,  the reason they went off shore is they cost less, and american companies made more money by shipping them in, 

The U.S. has all the natural resources, industry, and man power to build whatever it needs. I believe politicians and C.E.O.'s have lined their pockets shipping manufacturing jobs overseas, and putting up political road blocks for stopping production here (calling out the EPA specifically). It'll take time to turn the ship around, but I think Trump wants to make America 100% self sufficient. I dont see any reason it cant be. If the cost of a new PS5 - or a bottle of Crown Royal keeps you up at night, your priorities are completely askew. 

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The U.S. has all the natural resources, industry, and man power to build whatever it needs. I believe politicians and C.E.O.'s have lined their pockets shipping...

The U.S. has all the natural resources, industry, and man power to build whatever it needs. I believe politicians and C.E.O.'s have lined their pockets shipping manufacturing jobs overseas, and putting up political road blocks for stopping production here (calling out the EPA specifically). It'll take time to turn the ship around, but I think Trump wants to make America 100% self sufficient. I dont see any reason it cant be. If the cost of a new PS5 - or a bottle of Crown Royal keeps you up at night, your priorities are completely askew. 

This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or the volume neded isn't available. For example rare earth materials, uranium, lithium, natural rubber, copper and so on. 

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This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or...

This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or the volume neded isn't available. For example rare earth materials, uranium, lithium, natural rubber, copper and so on. 

I hope your able to save up, and get that new Xbox you've always wanted. Keep working at it, and maybe one day it'll happen for you. There's a bigger picture lurking here, and I'm not sure your seeing it. Manufacturing jobs will be coming back to America, and the attitude of "We cant do that here anymore" will be turning around. 

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eins4eins wrote:
This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or...

This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or the volume neded isn't available. For example rare earth materials, uranium, lithium, natural rubber, copper and so on. 

Russia has fuckloads of that. 

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Uranium mines in the United States are located in Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.

The US is the second largest producer of copper in the world.

Lithium deposits in the US

Silver Peak Mine: Located in Nevada, this brine evaporation mine is owned by Albemarle, one of the world's largest lithium producers. 

 

McDermitt Caldera: Located on the Oregon-Nevada border, this ancient volcanic caldera may contain 20–40 million metric tons of lithium. 

 

Bessemer City Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

 

Kings Mountain Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

You got us, we don’t have rubber trees.
 

 

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On the heavy oil deal. We constantly talk about it here. It's not an easy task to change over your refineries to use light oil instead...

On the heavy oil deal. We constantly talk about it here. It's not an easy task to change over your refineries to use light oil instead. A large % of yours are fitted for heavy crude. Its years of work and 100s of billions. Your oil fields are productive but when oil drops to 50$  or less per barrel you guys shut down huge #s of rigs. 60 or higher your fine but still well short of what you need to be self sufficient.  Its a tricky thing.Fuck Canada uses 2 million barrels per day. Alberta produces 5 million ish alone. But we still import! Way to complicated for my grade 9 education.

STVMCQN wrote:

So what are you going to do with all that oil, maple syrup, and hockey players, when the U.S. stops buying it?

Well I assume it will be a few years before you guys can weine yourself off of our energy.If ever honestly.   But we may finally...

Well I assume it will be a few years before you guys can weine yourself off of our energy.If ever honestly.   But we may finally get some pipelines built to the east coast so we can sell it to Europe. I hate hockey with a passion ! Syrup?  10$ 20$ who cares. A fan of maple syrup will buy it regardless. If anything good comes from this it will be pipelines so we don't have to sell so much to the US.Our premier here in Alberta has been cozying up to Your king on occasion so who knows. Your beer sucks too.Lol

Woah woah woah now. An Albertan who hates diesel trucks, doesn’t know who Corb Lund is and hates hockey? You sure you’re one of us? 

At least we can agree on beer though. 

 

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So what are you going to do with all that oil, maple syrup, and hockey players, when the U.S. stops buying it?

Well I assume it will be a few years before you guys can weine yourself off of our energy.If ever honestly.   But we may finally...

Well I assume it will be a few years before you guys can weine yourself off of our energy.If ever honestly.   But we may finally get some pipelines built to the east coast so we can sell it to Europe. I hate hockey with a passion ! Syrup?  10$ 20$ who cares. A fan of maple syrup will buy it regardless. If anything good comes from this it will be pipelines so we don't have to sell so much to the US.Our premier here in Alberta has been cozying up to Your king on occasion so who knows. Your beer sucks too.Lol

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Woah woah woah now. An Albertan who hates diesel trucks, doesn’t know who Corb Lund is and hates hockey? You sure you’re one of us? At least...

Woah woah woah now. An Albertan who hates diesel trucks, doesn’t know who Corb Lund is and hates hockey? You sure you’re one of us? 

At least we can agree on beer though. 

 

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Uranium mines in the United States are located in Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.The US is the second largest producer of copper in the world.Lithium...

Uranium mines in the United States are located in Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.

The US is the second largest producer of copper in the world.

Lithium deposits in the US

Silver Peak Mine: Located in Nevada, this brine evaporation mine is owned by Albemarle, one of the world's largest lithium producers. 

 

McDermitt Caldera: Located on the Oregon-Nevada border, this ancient volcanic caldera may contain 20–40 million metric tons of lithium. 

 

Bessemer City Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

 

Kings Mountain Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

You got us, we don’t have rubber trees.
 

 

B-b-but the price of graphics cards for my gaming pc went up 20% overnight. If these things keep getting more expensive, moms gonna quit buying them for me. Elon Musk is a Nazi, please donate to Ukraine, and dont forget Trump is a felon. I think I covered all the talking points there. 

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Uranium mines in the United States are located in Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.The US is the second largest producer of copper in the world.Lithium...

Uranium mines in the United States are located in Wyoming, New Mexico, Colorado, and Utah.

The US is the second largest producer of copper in the world.

Lithium deposits in the US

Silver Peak Mine: Located in Nevada, this brine evaporation mine is owned by Albemarle, one of the world's largest lithium producers. 

 

McDermitt Caldera: Located on the Oregon-Nevada border, this ancient volcanic caldera may contain 20–40 million metric tons of lithium. 

 

Bessemer City Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

 

Kings Mountain Mine: Located in North Carolina, this mine contains lithium deposits. 

You got us, we don’t have rubber trees.
 

 

Spurdo wrote:
B-b-but the price of graphics cards for my gaming pc went up 20% overnight. If these things keep getting more expensive, moms gonna quit buying them...

B-b-but the price of graphics cards for my gaming pc went up 20% overnight. If these things keep getting more expensive, moms gonna quit buying them for me. Elon Musk is a Nazi, please donate to Ukraine, and dont forget Trump is a felon. I think I covered all the talking points there. 

🤣🤣🤣

You forgot, “RACIST”!

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Now we’re hearing the tariffs may be rolled back


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This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or...

This is wrong. USA is independent to a very high degree, but there are several materials that need to be imported because they don't exist or the volume neded isn't available. For example rare earth materials, uranium, lithium, natural rubber, copper and so on. 

Russia has fuckloads of that. 

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Canada tarrifs

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Canada tarrifs

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

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Canada tarrifs

Gotta protect that Quebec dairy cartel. Although, to be completely fair, you guys subsidize dairy farms fairly heavily.

Good chunk of the rest of that is retaliatory already. I will concede that the US had a point on some of them though. Like metals as an example, the PRC was shipping it here, someone would basically stamp it and sell it on. I would like to point out that most of our smelters were bought out by US interests some time ago, so it was sort of a case of American companies using Canada to rip off Americans.

Basically we down on the ground are all caught in the middle of a bunch of crap from both sides. And the people making thus shit up aren't affected at all.

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Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. That's...

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

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BH_84 wrote:
Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. That's...

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

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Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. 

Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. 

And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them

 

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AZ35 wrote:

Canada tarrifs

BH_84 wrote:
Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. That's...

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

But I thought tariffs didn’t work?  And the cost just gets passed on to the consumer? And raise prices…blah blah blah


If tariffs don’t work, then why have them on anything (even over a certain threshold)?  

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BH_84 wrote:
Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. That's...

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

AZ35 wrote:

Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

BH_84 wrote:
Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. And...

Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. 

Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. 

And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them

 

And how is Gulf of Mexico any more fitting than Gulf of America?

Remember, it's North America, Central America, and South America. Gulf of America makes more sense continentally. 

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AZ35 wrote:

Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

BH_84 wrote:
Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. And...

Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. 

Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. 

And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them

 

And how is Gulf of Mexico any more fitting than Gulf of America?Remember, it's North America, Central America, and South America. Gulf of America makes more...

And how is Gulf of Mexico any more fitting than Gulf of America?

Remember, it's North America, Central America, and South America. Gulf of America makes more sense continentally. 

Exactly, we’re the United States of America. Why we’re referred to as America is beyond me.

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BH_84 wrote:
Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. That's...

Those tariffs only apply once a certain threshold has been met. They're there to protect against US companies dumping inventory into Canada and destroying the market. 

That's what happens when you get your info from right wing shills on twitter

AZ35 wrote:

Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

BH_84 wrote:
Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. And...

Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. 

Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. 

And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them

 

***And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them*** 

Well that settles it then--  I just emailed DJT and let him know that some delusional asshat from Canada will NOT recognize the newly administered PROPER name for that big body of water that borders the southern United States of AMERICA  !!--    

Oh wait -- he just replied---- he will return it to whatever name you'd prefer. Thanks for your input 🤣

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AZ35 wrote:

Get your facts straight. 

It was on Instagram, so it must be true. And it is called X now, not twitter.... (:

BH_84 wrote:
Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. And...

Instagram just is everything that was on Twitter and TikTok 2 weeks ago. 

Saw the exact tweet that your post is a screenshot of 3 days ago. 

And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them

 

OldPro277 wrote:
***And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came...

***And, much like the Gulf of Mexico, I don't recognize and won't use these new names because they're both as dumb as the people who came up with them*** 

Well that settles it then--  I just emailed DJT and let him know that some delusional asshat from Canada will NOT recognize the newly administered PROPER name for that big body of water that borders the southern United States of AMERICA  !!--    

Oh wait -- he just replied---- he will return it to whatever name you'd prefer. Thanks for your input 🤣

All must pay heed to BH_84, the Oracle of Quebec!!!

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