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Is that really the best you can come up with? Go talk to your head of DOGE, maybe he can give you one of those brain implants to help you come up with a half decent joke.
Oh wise Oracle of Quebec, may I be blessed with your great and wonderful knowledge so that I may do better next time!!
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Guess you're about to find out how they work aren't you. You think the price of eggs is bad, just wait till you see how much groceries go up if we stop selling you potash.
We’ve got our own potash. Guess we’re depleting your resources, before our own.
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Pretty sure Canada accounts for like 72% of our potash consumption. The US doesn't really produce much and certainly not enough to maintain our domestic supply/demand.
And I suppose Canada has a shit load of buyers lined up that can afford to ship that heavy potash across the oceans rather than by rail from Saskatchewan a few hundred miles into the US midwest ? Who comes out on top of that power struggle ? Trump or Trudeau ? Who's your money on, Oracle ?
Thought this was interesting
Why would you a top selling is potash? I thought the importer (and then it’s passed on consumer) paid for the tariffs?
if it’s the American consumer that pays for the tariffs, why would you stop selling it to us? The tariffs aren’t costing Canada any more money?
I think a more valid question is, who is Canada going to sell that potash to when America stops buying it…
That's just it, The US is not going to stop buying it. It is just going to cost more.
Sure, some applications have alternatives, but there are many other applications that do not. On top of that, switching to an alternative is rarely going to be a simple or quick process.
I don’t know about that…but if that’s true, why would Canada stop selling it to America? (Which gets to the point hat BH84’s fear mongering is invalid).
See unlike the US, we have many friends all around the world.
This is going to hurt the US a lot more than its going to hurt Canada.
The fun part? The stuff we know you need, power, potash etc. We are looking at export taxes on them now rather than simply cutting off the supply. Its like a tariff, but instead of your government taking money from your businesses, our government will take that money from your businesses.
Or, we can drop the whole thing and go back to being neighbors, allies and trade partners like we've been for over a century.
Hold up…so you honestly believe Canada can win a trade war with the largest economy on the planet? Holy smokes…I get national pride and all that, but it’s time to put the pipe down and return to reality. Seriously…you’re delusional…
The US has potash reserves of 220 million metric tons.
Head to head, no we couldn't. So instead we'll just make new partnerships and trade deals. Sell our stuff elsewhere until the US realizes that buying from us was and still is their best option.
We'll be fine.
If that helps you sleep at night...go ahead and believe that. Going to be painful for you while those new partnerships and trade deals are negotiated, and implemented...or...you just agree to improve border security (like you said you would back in December after trudeau met with Trump) and this all ends?
Again, buying your potash is almost like charity.
Cool. Now do annual production and annual consumption.
It's not like it is sitting in a warehouse somewhere waiting for the orders to come in.
Pit Row
Maybe you need to do that math. Figure in how long it would take us to ramp up. You’re the ones squawking about how much we need your potash. Like yours is the only potash on Earth.
Every single resource argument, I’ve shot down, except for rubber.
Puhlease.
I don't think NJ has much potash to speak of.
It would take us years to ramp up production.
Again, Canada isn't the only potash supplier, but they are by far the largest, and most impactful, supplier to the US.
You saying "nuh uh" is irrelevant to reality.
Maybe as a punitive measure.
We all know it was never about border security. We get more illegals and more fentanyl coming from the US than goes in.
I hate to post and run but I'm heading out the door.....Back in the morning.
Is the US not responsible for inspecting those or what enters the US?
I keep hearing we are letting Fentynal into the US, but we don't inspect what leaves Canada, you inspect what comes into the US. Just like we inspect what comes into Canada when it leaves the US.
Help me make sense of this.
You’re assuming smugglers are using legal border crossings.
Then what was it about, oh great and knowledgeable Oracle of Quebec??
Facepalm...it's not like drug smugglers are bringing the fentynol in legally...the unsecured border makes it easy for them to smuggle it in...come on now...
It's always been about border security with Canada...but if you claim its not about that, then what is it about?
I don’t have the time or patience to type out all the answers for you.
Instead, here’s Elon’s AI’s answer.
The Official Claim: Drugs as a National Security Threat
The White House has framed these tariffs as a response to national security concerns, asserting that Canada’s lax border controls allow drugs like fentanyl—a synthetic opioid driving the U.S. overdose crisis—to seep into the country. Alongside this, there’s mention of illegal immigration across the U.S.-Canada border, though the drug angle has been the louder talking point. Trump has suggested that Canada needs to align more closely with U.S. interests to address these issues, even hinting at extreme measures like Canada becoming the “51st state.”
The Data: Where Does Fentanyl Really Come From?
To evaluate this claim, we need to look at the numbers. According to U.S. Customs and Border Patrol, less than 1% of fentanyl seizures occur at the U.S.-Canada border. In stark contrast, over 97% of intercepted fentanyl enters through the southern border with Mexico. This is a critical point: Mexico, not Canada, is the primary conduit for fentanyl into the U.S. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s own threat assessments barely mention Canada as a significant source, focusing instead on Mexico and, increasingly, domestic U.S. production fueled by precursor chemicals from China.
But what about fentanyl in Canada itself? There’s some evidence of domestic production—seizures like eight kilograms in Saskatchewan and larger hauls in British Columbia show it’s not nonexistent. However, the scale is tiny compared to Mexico’s industrial-level operations. Canada’s role seems more like a minor player, possibly a transit point in rare cases, rather than a major supplier flooding the U.S. market.
Beyond Drugs: Economic and Political Motives
If the drug justification is shaky, what’s really driving these tariffs? The economic context offers clues. In 2023, the U.S. had a $60 billion trade deficit with Canada in goods, and over 75% of Canadian exports head south. Tariffs hit Canada hard, targeting everything from aluminum to energy—sectors vital to its economy. This suggests a broader goal: leveraging economic pressure to extract concessions. Analysts point to the upcoming 2026 USMCA renegotiation as a potential target, where Trump could push for terms more favorable to the U.S.
There’s also a geopolitical angle. Trump’s “51st state” rhetoric, while hyperbolic, signals a desire to dominate the U.S.-Canada relationship. The tariffs could be a tool to force Canada into alignment on issues like defense spending or trade diversification away from competitors like China. The drug issue, in this light, looks like a convenient pretext—political theater to justify a power play.
Canada’s Response: Playing Defense
Canadian officials have pushed back, calling the drug claims exaggerated and pointing to the same data showing Mexico as the real fentanyl hub. In response to the tariffs, Canada has appointed a “fentanyl czar” and ramped up border security efforts. These moves seem designed to appease the U.S. without conceding too much, but they don’t address the underlying dynamic: the tariffs aren’t really about drugs. Trudeau’s government is in a tough spot, balancing domestic backlash with the need to maintain trade ties with its biggest partner.
Conclusion: A Pretext, Not a Solution
The drug issue tied to Trump’s tariffs on Canada doesn’t withstand close examination. While fentanyl is a genuine crisis in the U.S., Canada’s contribution to it is negligible—less than 1% of seizures compared to Mexico’s overwhelming share. The tariffs appear less about solving a drug problem and more about economic coercion and geopolitical leverage. By amplifying fears about drugs and border security, the U.S. administration has crafted a narrative that masks its real objectives: bending Canada to America’s will on trade and beyond. Unless Canada finds a way to counter this pressure—perhaps through alliances or diversified markets—the drug excuse may just be the first of many tools Trump uses to assert dominance.
lol….what a cop out. Nice try. Come back when you can actually contribute to the conversation…
Shouldn't have left gaps in the wall...
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