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Yep. My gf and i both have been doing. Shes already thin and ppl at her work are all giving her advice especially the ones who are 100lbs overweight which is interesting lol.

Saying it won't work, why bother, just give up its too hard, blah blah blah. Ppl have asked her if shes sick because she looks thinner, same thing happened when we got real into the gym and she was in really good shape and thinning down too.

At my work ppl just wave pretzels and pizza in my face lol.

3/16/2019 2:06pm
Apparently everyone in this thread that challenges Jabroni’s claim are the amateur hacks who don’t know much.
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3/16/2019 2:22pm
Apparently everyone in this thread that challenges Jabroni’s claim are the amateur hacks who don’t know much.
Id like to see this post be more about tips and experiences with keto and less of a which oil is best debate.

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3/16/2019 2:42pm
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Yep. My gf and i both have been doing. Shes already thin and ppl at her work are all giving her advice especially the ones who...
Yep. My gf and i both have been doing. Shes already thin and ppl at her work are all giving her advice especially the ones who are 100lbs overweight which is interesting lol.

Saying it won't work, why bother, just give up its too hard, blah blah blah. Ppl have asked her if shes sick because she looks thinner, same thing happened when we got real into the gym and she was in really good shape and thinning down too.

At my work ppl just wave pretzels and pizza in my face lol.

Have a fat guy in my office who likes to give nutrition advise.

I've used keto when I wanted to bring my weight down for a jiu jitsu tournament. It's pretty sustainable for me but I choose not to maintain for too long.
3/16/2019 3:41pm
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Id like to see this post be more about tips and experiences with keto and less of a which oil is best debate.
That’s what it was intended to be. It can easily return to that.
3/16/2019 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 3/16/2019 3:46pm
Apparently everyone in this thread that challenges Jabroni’s claim are the amateur hacks who don’t know much.
1. They’re challenging basic facts about liver functionality & macro nutrition

2. If they cannot present evidence and simply resort to name calling & taking personal shots at me, what else are they but hacks? I’ve asked for very specific evidence on claims that carbs are essential and nobody can answer the call

The most vocal critics of keto have tried saying keto was high protein. While also saying vegan was not high carb. Both blatantly false statements on pretty basic aspects of this topic.

It is what it is.
3/16/2019 3:48pm
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Yep. My gf and i both have been doing. Shes already thin and ppl at her work are all giving her advice especially the ones who...
Yep. My gf and i both have been doing. Shes already thin and ppl at her work are all giving her advice especially the ones who are 100lbs overweight which is interesting lol.

Saying it won't work, why bother, just give up its too hard, blah blah blah. Ppl have asked her if shes sick because she looks thinner, same thing happened when we got real into the gym and she was in really good shape and thinning down too.

At my work ppl just wave pretzels and pizza in my face lol.

In my original post, I warned you this would happen. Social pressure is one of the pitfalls of ANY lifestyle change.

It’s as difficult to navigate as the actual physical sugar addiction. Probably more so.
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.9 ketosis level. 107 glucose. Lost 7 lbs Feeling good.
Only doing a 5,5,5 basic workout on my pullup station.
5 exercises, 5 reps min, 5 times a day.
3/16/2019 8:01pm
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.9 ketosis level. 107 glucose. Lost 7 lbs Feeling good. Only doing a 5,5,5 basic workout on my pullup station. 5 exercises, 5 reps min, 5...
.9 ketosis level. 107 glucose. Lost 7 lbs Feeling good.
Only doing a 5,5,5 basic workout on my pullup station.
5 exercises, 5 reps min, 5 times a day.
Rogan had a MMA trainer on a while back. The guy was stressing what they were sorta referring to as a “farmer strong” program. It’s called that because farmers never work so hard that they cant work the next day.

The trainer wasnt a big fan of western philosophy of lifting until sore. Didnt feel the inflamation was healthy long term. Nor did he think it got the fastest results. He was putting a focus on overall reps per year.

Pretty interesting podcast episode. So I decided to give it a try. Made my own “farmer strong” program.

Every morning when I roll out of bed & every night right before bed. I do the following:

1 pushup
1 pullup
1 ab roller
1 lunge jump
1 min jump rope

Every week I add a rep. Been doing it for 35 weeks now. So it’s 35 pushups, 35 pullups, etc. (I’ve been slacking on the jumprope).

In total, I currently do 490 pushups per week. Never coming close to my max reps in one set, yet the number of reps over the course of a year will be exponentially higher than if I was working out my chest (for example) really hard & then waiting for that muscle group to heal before I could work it out again.

It’s required a lot of patience. But now Im doing a number of pullups never even remotely possible before. When I started my max was 5.

Im never sore. And this is incredibly efficient as it takes very little time. Just slowly but surely building a base. Probably not conducive to putting on mass. But after 2 years I’ll be able to do 100 pushups in a row which is pretty cool. We’ll see if I add any mass or not. Definitely building strength.
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3/18/2019 10:45am
Where do you get your antioxidants from when you go straight Keto ?

How do you overcome the oxidation stress?

Not being a dick here. Just asking. Not gonna pretend I’m an expert. I’m not. But that keynote I sat in on had hard evidence and damn if I can’t get it. No response from the speaker. But the guys real busy I understand.
3/18/2019 12:41pm Edited Date/Time 3/18/2019 1:00pm
Where do you get your antioxidants from when you go straight Keto ? How do you overcome the oxidation stress? Not being a dick here. Just...
Where do you get your antioxidants from when you go straight Keto ?

How do you overcome the oxidation stress?

Not being a dick here. Just asking. Not gonna pretend I’m an expert. I’m not. But that keynote I sat in on had hard evidence and damn if I can’t get it. No response from the speaker. But the guys real busy I understand.
If your keynote speaker is implying that high glycemic veggies & fruits are the only source for antioxidants, he’s wrong. He should knpw better before speaking on the topic. Either that, or he’s assuming his listeners arent going to dig deeper and ask if fruits & veggies are the only source of essential antioxidants, of which they are not. Not only that, they’re not even the best source.

The next question that should be asked is “are there actually ESSENTIAL antioxidants?”

To answer your question tho, (organic) animal based food are higher in most vitamins & minerals. Often easier to metabolize as well. And provide precursors to natural antioxidants so that the body produces its own antioxidants.
3/19/2019 8:07pm
I was asking where do YOU specifically get antioxidants.....
3/23/2019 1:55pm
Apparently everyone in this thread that challenges Jabroni’s claim are the amateur hacks who don’t know much.
The op is a obsessive compulsive narcissist. I have been whole food plant based for 9mo. Zero slaughtered animals. Zero hormone filled mothers milk dairy. Zero oils. Zero processed shit like flour, pasta, sugar, white rice, etc.

I feel and look the best I have in 20 years. Just the facts of what works for me.

There are many pathways that work for people but the OCD OP will deny this to his grave lmao.
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3/23/2019 3:02pm
The op is a obsessive compulsive narcissist. I have been whole food plant based for 9mo. Zero slaughtered animals. Zero hormone filled mothers milk dairy. Zero...
The op is a obsessive compulsive narcissist. I have been whole food plant based for 9mo. Zero slaughtered animals. Zero hormone filled mothers milk dairy. Zero oils. Zero processed shit like flour, pasta, sugar, white rice, etc.

I feel and look the best I have in 20 years. Just the facts of what works for me.

There are many pathways that work for people but the OCD OP will deny this to his grave lmao.
Many pathways... ???

Sure, there are many things you can feed a cow (corn, soy, their own brains) but they’re really only made to be out grazing on grass.

You can feed your dog almost anything and they’ll eat it. But they’re only made to eat raw meat.

And here you are making the claim that your basic functions of your liver & metabolism are somehow different than the rest of humanities.

You’re eating better than you did before. Doesnt mean you’re eating your best. And the fact that you think that humans all have different requirements despite being the same species is hilariously flawed.
3/23/2019 3:04pm Edited Date/Time 3/23/2019 3:07pm
The op is a obsessive compulsive narcissist. I have been whole food plant based for 9mo. Zero slaughtered animals. Zero hormone filled mothers milk dairy. Zero...
The op is a obsessive compulsive narcissist. I have been whole food plant based for 9mo. Zero slaughtered animals. Zero hormone filled mothers milk dairy. Zero oils. Zero processed shit like flour, pasta, sugar, white rice, etc.

I feel and look the best I have in 20 years. Just the facts of what works for me.

There are many pathways that work for people but the OCD OP will deny this to his grave lmao.
Many pathways... ???

Sure, there are many things you can feed a cow (corn, soy, their own brains) but they’re really only made to be out grazing on grass.

You can feed your dog almost anything and they’ll eat it. But they’re only made to eat raw meat.

And here you are making the claim that your basic functions of your liver & metabolism are somehow different than the rest of humanity’s.

You’re eating better than you did before (congrats btw, sounds like you eliminated a lot of the worst stuff). Doesnt mean you’re eating your best. And the fact that you think that humans all have different requirements despite being the same species is hilariously flawed.

It’s the equivalent of a motocross rider whom is also anti-fossil fuels. So they convince themselves their bike runs better with water mixed into the gas.
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I am down about 20 lbs in 5 weeks and my gf is down about 10 in 4 weeks. I feel better overall, more energy, more positive, better moods, less headaches. Used to get really bad headaches 3 or 4 a month. Ive had only one this entire 5 weeks.

Looking forward to hitting 190 and then going to start lifting again. Goal is 190-200 and solid. Well on my way now and its honestly been effortless.

We're going for donuts tomorrow. 1 donut each and then back to it. Big whoop. We're planning to have a cheat meal like that once a month and plan it around whatever events come our way. Bday parties we go to, dinners whatever special case it may be. Plan for it and can be a normal person have a slice or two of pizza or whatever and then back to it.

Excited about it all. Thank you jabroni for doing as much effort as you have in educating those of us who wanted to learn i appreciate it.
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I am down about 20 lbs in 5 weeks and my gf is down about 10 in 4 weeks. I feel better overall, more energy, more...
I am down about 20 lbs in 5 weeks and my gf is down about 10 in 4 weeks. I feel better overall, more energy, more positive, better moods, less headaches. Used to get really bad headaches 3 or 4 a month. Ive had only one this entire 5 weeks.

Looking forward to hitting 190 and then going to start lifting again. Goal is 190-200 and solid. Well on my way now and its honestly been effortless.

We're going for donuts tomorrow. 1 donut each and then back to it. Big whoop. We're planning to have a cheat meal like that once a month and plan it around whatever events come our way. Bday parties we go to, dinners whatever special case it may be. Plan for it and can be a normal person have a slice or two of pizza or whatever and then back to it.

Excited about it all. Thank you jabroni for doing as much effort as you have in educating those of us who wanted to learn i appreciate it.
No problem buddy.

Keep a restroom close after that donut. You’re far enough into ketosis that you’ll probably get a upset stomach from the cheat.

Post your gym routine & progress. Im interested in the different methods.
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My wife and I are feeling really good and have accomplished more chores in the last month than the last year. Zero cheats, no milk or soda this whole time. The food is great. There is one bottle of coke left in the fridge still since I started and it will remain that way. No cravings, just good food. I fit into a bunch of clothes I couldn't a month ago. Stomach is looking much flatter and it's a really easy lifestyle. Ketobombs are the best sweet treat I ever had. Like a snickers or almond joy but zero sugar or carbs. Takes 1 minute to put together. They will be my desert forever. So good.
Thanks Jabroni for the tips and guidance. You are passionate about this avenue and are trying to help others. In this day and age it is not worth it to try and change minds but just offer suggestions and lead by example. People have their reasons for going different directions, right or wrong. I quit trying to convince people anything long ago and just hope for the best on their journey.

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Ah and possibly the wildest part of this whole thing has been, i didnt change a single other thing. No gym, no exercising outside of my usual routines of work, playing with the dogs, etc.

I have a goal of around 190, once i get down there i plan to start some weight lifting, purely for my own goals.

But to lose 20lbs in 5 weeks with zero cardio, and really zero effort blows my mind. Ive been nearly 100% on point with every meal, every day and it really just isnt that hard to stay on track.

Easier than anything ive done before. I do really feel like your body is meant to run this way with how much easier it is, how much better i feel etc.
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My wife and I are feeling really good and have accomplished more chores in the last month than the last year. Zero cheats, no milk or...
My wife and I are feeling really good and have accomplished more chores in the last month than the last year. Zero cheats, no milk or soda this whole time. The food is great. There is one bottle of coke left in the fridge still since I started and it will remain that way. No cravings, just good food. I fit into a bunch of clothes I couldn't a month ago. Stomach is looking much flatter and it's a really easy lifestyle. Ketobombs are the best sweet treat I ever had. Like a snickers or almond joy but zero sugar or carbs. Takes 1 minute to put together. They will be my desert forever. So good.
Thanks Jabroni for the tips and guidance. You are passionate about this avenue and are trying to help others. In this day and age it is not worth it to try and change minds but just offer suggestions and lead by example. People have their reasons for going different directions, right or wrong. I quit trying to convince people anything long ago and just hope for the best on their journey.

Fl - what is your ketbomb? My gf keeps trying to make different sweet type treats and they all have been crap lol. She really likes sweets so if yours is as good as it sounds it could be the one!
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Fl - what is your ketbomb? My gf keeps trying to make different sweet type treats and they all have been crap lol. She really likes...
Fl - what is your ketbomb? My gf keeps trying to make different sweet type treats and they all have been crap lol. She really likes sweets so if yours is as good as it sounds it could be the one!
Absolutely. My wife sent me the link to the recipe we use but we also add some crushed pecans or walnuts and some unsweetened coconut flakes. Really good.
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I am not a huge fan of coconut but this is how much she adds and I barely new there was any in there but the flavor is excellent.

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Thanks gonna give it a try!
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I started the Keto in September of 2018, weighing in at 270lbs, today I'm 210 (I'm 6'3). If you can stick to it, this works. I didn't even workout. Eat healthy and play video games and I dropped pounds like crazy.
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I had no problem quitting processed sugar. I have never been a fan of sweets so that part was easy. My problem is bread and potatoes. So far it has not been that big of a deal. I generally cook at home so I am in control of carbs. My other problem is beer. Not giving it up. I found a low alcohol, low carb beer that works just fine. Miller 64. 2 grams of carbs per 12 oz can. Instead of having a cheeseburger on a large bun and wedge fries I eat 2 lettuce wrapped cheeseburgers with tomato, avocado and onion. Fucking good shit. Washed down with a Miller 64. Or 2. Last night I made 2 stuffed bell peppers.Recipes for this stuff are all over the place.

Snacks: Celery, hard boiled eggs, dill pickles, peanuts.

I love tuna so I have to figure out way of combining it with tomatoes and avocados without the bread. I'm sure I'll find something on line. My son is the manager of the meat dept at Sprouts so he is my meat dealer. I'm 65 and 210. I will back off and adjust at 190. It's a blood pressure issue now or I wouldn't have bothered but I'm glad I am eating better and will easily maintain 50 or less carb grams/day for as long as I want. I'm probably less than 25/day now but at some point I will slowly bring some potatoes back in and some bread. A tuna sandwich on sourdough with tomato and avocado is waiting for me at 190. THAT is motivation.

I have only been on this for a week but so far no problems.
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Awesome. We are still 100 percent on track. I have not weighed myself again yet but feeling light and lots of energy. I need an avocado tree.
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Same here. Killing it still. Down to 215 from 240 in about 6 weeks. Shooting for 190+/- about 10 lbs. 190 is going to be awesome compared to 240 ill tell u what.

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