What went wrong?

RandyS
Profile picture for user RandyS
Posts
6184
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Grass Valley, CA US
RandyS
Built in legend to train him, career mapped out, everything he needed including talent a notch above the comp. Will almost certainly retire without a title despite being firmly in the top 10 all time win list.
5
25
|
crowe176
Profile picture for user crowe176
Posts
6614
Joined
9/8/2006
Location
Spring Lake, MI US
crowe176 4/27/2019 5:22pm
4/27/2019 5:22pm
SX practice tracks are too smooth.
6
1
zehn
Profile picture for user zehn
Posts
7266
Joined
1/15/2013
Location
Anchorage, AK US
zehn 4/27/2019 5:24pm
4/27/2019 5:24pm
By my count, Tomac has several national championships already
21
3
Gandorlf
Profile picture for user Gandorlf
Posts
537
Joined
6/17/2016
Location
GB
Gandorlf 4/27/2019 5:24pm
4/27/2019 5:24pm
Doesn't give praise to our lord and saviour Jesus Christ
30
28
cdm806
Profile picture for user cdm806
Posts
549
Joined
7/9/2008
Location
Locke, NY US
Fantasy
1404th
cdm806 4/27/2019 5:25pm
4/27/2019 5:25pm
Cant handle the pressure. Either he runs away with the title, or he chokes in the final rounds. It's been his MO his entire career.
7
7

The Shop

See All »
RandyS
Profile picture for user RandyS
Posts
6184
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Grass Valley, CA US
RandyS 4/27/2019 5:26pm
4/27/2019 5:26pm
zehn wrote:
By my count, Tomac has several national championships already
Not the big one. Didn't say he never achieved rings, but the brass one is what everyone is racing for.
4
5
BMSOBx2
Profile picture for user BMSOBx2
Posts
2088
Joined
2/18/2017
Location
Antioch, CA US
BMSOBx2 4/27/2019 5:28pm
4/27/2019 5:28pm
I just heard Roy Orbison sing "It's over" on the radio. Sad song.
1
1
crowe176
Profile picture for user crowe176
Posts
6614
Joined
9/8/2006
Location
Spring Lake, MI US
crowe176 4/27/2019 5:29pm
4/27/2019 5:29pm
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
6
14
Gandorlf
Profile picture for user Gandorlf
Posts
537
Joined
6/17/2016
Location
GB
Gandorlf 4/27/2019 5:31pm
4/27/2019 5:31pm
zehn wrote:
By my count, Tomac has several national championships already
RandyS wrote:
Not the big one. Didn't say he never achieved rings, but the brass one is what everyone is racing for.
That's subjective and changes depending on the rider...
1
2
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
50575
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario CA
Fantasy
3739th
-MAVERICK- 4/27/2019 5:34pm
4/27/2019 5:34pm
crowe176 wrote:
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
Been in the class since 2013. Pretty certain he's had plenty of opportunities to change settings.
8
5
crowe176
Profile picture for user crowe176
Posts
6614
Joined
9/8/2006
Location
Spring Lake, MI US
crowe176 4/27/2019 5:35pm
4/27/2019 5:35pm
crowe176 wrote:
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Been in the class since 2013. Pretty certain he's had plenty of opportunities to change settings.
Hey, I agree lol. I thought this was a sarcasm themed post
3
Gandorlf
Profile picture for user Gandorlf
Posts
537
Joined
6/17/2016
Location
GB
Gandorlf 4/27/2019 5:41pm
4/27/2019 5:41pm
crowe176 wrote:
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Been in the class since 2013. Pretty certain he's had plenty of opportunities to change settings.
2014?
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
50575
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario CA
Fantasy
3739th
-MAVERICK- 4/27/2019 5:41pm
4/27/2019 5:41pm
crowe176 wrote:
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Been in the class since 2013. Pretty certain he's had plenty of opportunities to change settings.
crowe176 wrote:
Hey, I agree lol. I thought this was a sarcasm themed post
LOL. Oh well, that one went right above my head.
-MAVERICK-
Profile picture for user -MAVERICK-
Posts
50575
Joined
3/26/2015
Location
Ontario CA
Fantasy
3739th
-MAVERICK- 4/27/2019 5:43pm
4/27/2019 5:43pm
crowe176 wrote:
He would be multi time SX champ if he was allowed to change settings.
-MAVERICK- wrote:
Been in the class since 2013. Pretty certain he's had plenty of opportunities to change settings.
Gandorlf wrote:
2014?
Yeah, my bad. Doesn't change the fact he still hasn't won the title yet.
1
2
level
Profile picture for user level
Posts
6185
Joined
8/27/2006
Location
Acworth, GA US
level 4/27/2019 5:45pm
4/27/2019 5:45pm
Karma. He’s a dirty ass rider. Tries to win championships by taking the points leaders out. Did with dungey tried with cooper. Dirty pos. Not a fan of Tomac anymore.
5
83
cbuehler767
Profile picture for user cbuehler767
Posts
750
Joined
1/27/2016
Location
New London, CT US
cbuehler767 4/27/2019 5:47pm
4/27/2019 5:47pm
level wrote:
Karma. He’s a dirty ass rider. Tries to win championships by taking the points leaders out. Did with dungey tried with cooper. Dirty pos. Not a...
Karma. He’s a dirty ass rider. Tries to win championships by taking the points leaders out. Did with dungey tried with cooper. Dirty pos. Not a fan of Tomac anymore.
Weak bait
24
1
cpyz300
Profile picture for user cpyz300
Posts
134
Joined
6/12/2016
Location
Bedford, TX US
cpyz300 4/27/2019 5:50pm
4/27/2019 5:50pm
cdm806 wrote:
Cant handle the pressure. Either he runs away with the title, or he chokes in the final rounds. It's been his MO his entire career.
Tonight didn't seem like a typical Eli choke though. He didn't fade after his first crash and still not even after his 2nd crash. I think those whoops were just tough for him. They were big jumpers which isn't his preference and also really rutted.

Still a choke by definition, but nothing like his usual ways.
2
2
Indian_Dunes_4ever 4/27/2019 5:50pm
4/27/2019 5:50pm
It was Cortezanite...a very rare material that distorts the brain-waves of people from Cortez. Cooper had some installed in the tough-blok that Tomac went into twice...
4
2
kpiper
Profile picture for user kpiper
Posts
2216
Joined
3/20/2019
Location
AZ US
kpiper 4/27/2019 5:55pm
4/27/2019 5:55pm
No "choke" at all for Tomac. He went for it and rode his heart out when in reality with Webb sitting at the front of the race he still had no chance for the title.

Eli made a heck of a show tonight as did all the rest of the top four guys. Best race of the year.

He does need to practice jumping whoops though. Maybe MM25 will give him a lesson???
6
3

Pit Row

See All »
cbuehler767
Profile picture for user cbuehler767
Posts
750
Joined
1/27/2016
Location
New London, CT US
cbuehler767 4/27/2019 6:00pm
4/27/2019 6:00pm
kpiper wrote:
No "choke" at all for Tomac. He went for it and rode his heart out when in reality with Webb sitting at the front of the...
No "choke" at all for Tomac. He went for it and rode his heart out when in reality with Webb sitting at the front of the race he still had no chance for the title.

Eli made a heck of a show tonight as did all the rest of the top four guys. Best race of the year.

He does need to practice jumping whoops though. Maybe MM25 will give him a lesson???
Agree. He was going for it and never gave up. I was happy with the effort it was an exciting race. Gotta say I went to the race and it seems like the Kawi wants to constantly tuck the front end on him. Just a dummy's opinion but I dont think the bike suits him
1
2
CPR
Profile picture for user CPR
Posts
4386
Joined
10/4/2018
Location
AU
CPR 4/27/2019 6:01pm
4/27/2019 6:01pm
cdm806 wrote:
Cant handle the pressure. Either he runs away with the title, or he chokes in the final rounds. It's been his MO his entire career.
Oh there's been chokes in the past but this was a different scenario.

So your pushing as hard as you can, make a mistake, need to get back to the front quickly, push hard trying and make another mistake.

I wouldn't call that a choke. I'd say he gave it his best shot and came up short.
8
1
dimetime
Profile picture for user dimetime
Posts
640
Joined
5/27/2017
Location
Huntington Beach, CA US
dimetime 4/27/2019 6:06pm
4/27/2019 6:06pm
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy.

He is a choker. He does ride a little dirty but because a bunch of you love the taste of his nuts there is rarely an honest assessment of him.

He lost me when he choked at MXON on his 250 and cost us the title. But y'all do you and oeep thinking he walks on water. It's hilarious.
36
kpiper
Profile picture for user kpiper
Posts
2216
Joined
3/20/2019
Location
AZ US
kpiper 4/27/2019 6:13pm
4/27/2019 6:13pm
dimetime wrote:
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy...
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy.

He is a choker. He does ride a little dirty but because a bunch of you love the taste of his nuts there is rarely an honest assessment of him.

He lost me when he choked at MXON on his 250 and cost us the title. But y'all do you and oeep thinking he walks on water. It's hilarious.
No one said Eli walks on water. But tonight the guy battled to the lead, crashed in the whoops, got back up and was about to take the lead again. Still ends up 3rd. Pretty impressive and entertaining riding. You clearly have an agenda.
15
crowe176
Profile picture for user crowe176
Posts
6614
Joined
9/8/2006
Location
Spring Lake, MI US
crowe176 4/27/2019 6:16pm
4/27/2019 6:16pm
dimetime wrote:
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy...
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy.

He is a choker. He does ride a little dirty but because a bunch of you love the taste of his nuts there is rarely an honest assessment of him.

He lost me when he choked at MXON on his 250 and cost us the title. But y'all do you and oeep thinking he walks on water. It's hilarious.
kpiper wrote:
No one said Eli walks on water. But tonight the guy battled to the lead, crashed in the whoops, got back up and was about to...
No one said Eli walks on water. But tonight the guy battled to the lead, crashed in the whoops, got back up and was about to take the lead again. Still ends up 3rd. Pretty impressive and entertaining riding. You clearly have an agenda.
Right.. Eli was pushing it all night. What more can you ask of the kid?. Roll around in the top 10 for 15 years like Windham and maybe twist it a little harder when you luck into a good start?
4
Jason Rhodes 4/27/2019 6:18pm
4/27/2019 6:18pm
Let’s talk crap about someone who would run circles around anyone in here. Oh and someone who has actually won a title. But yeah he sucks lol.
3
1
Jason Rhodes 4/27/2019 6:19pm
4/27/2019 6:19pm
dimetime wrote:
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy...
Eli is so wildly overrated and is as dull and dim as a can of paint. Simply do not get the mad fanboying over this guy.

He is a choker. He does ride a little dirty but because a bunch of you love the taste of his nuts there is rarely an honest assessment of him.

He lost me when he choked at MXON on his 250 and cost us the title. But y'all do you and oeep thinking he walks on water. It's hilarious.
Cost “us” a title. Sorry didn’t see you out there. Must have missed that. Lmao
12
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
20962
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
Crush 4/27/2019 6:20pm
4/27/2019 6:20pm
level wrote:
Karma. He’s a dirty ass rider. Tries to win championships by taking the points leaders out. Did with dungey tried with cooper. Dirty pos. Not a...
Karma. He’s a dirty ass rider. Tries to win championships by taking the points leaders out. Did with dungey tried with cooper. Dirty pos. Not a fan of Tomac anymore.
Gtfoh
12
2
Crush
Profile picture for user Crush
Posts
20962
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
Crush 4/27/2019 6:25pm
4/27/2019 6:25pm
Started the year with a back injury, a new bike, a crew chief who wasn’t helping one way or the other and obviously not his usual speed.

Ended as clearly the fastest guy again but short of the title. I’d say it’s not a loss.

People shit on him but forget he hasn’t purely been at fault the last few years, he’s had more than his share of shit luck. Shit, even Bagget and Osborne staying upright would have been a rare assist this year and no bike change would have clearly helped. Coop deserves it but I’d guess Eli wins outdoors.
7
2
deluxeman
Profile picture for user deluxeman
Posts
789
Joined
6/27/2016
Location
Saranac, MI US
deluxeman 4/27/2019 6:30pm
4/27/2019 6:30pm
Gandorlf wrote:
Doesn't give praise to our lord and saviour Jesus Christ
Maybe he should, it seems to work pretty well for the guys that beat him.
3
8

Post a reply to: What went wrong?